New pole barn project for 2012

glmron · Dec 18, 2011

I will finally be starting my pole building this spring. I plan on a 32x48 with 12' walls, metal siding, metal roof and concrete floor. Been planning this building in my head for a long time so it should be a fun project. I removed the trees and got the stumps ground out before the weather turned. As soon as the weather breaks I should be ready to go.

hill^top · Dec 18, 2011

You might want to make it 13', remember that the height is measured to the bottom of the base board, you then pour the floor that will reduce the headroom available for a lift.

If you are going to have someone build it for you, think about Morton, they did a first class job for a competitive price, and they finished my 30x64 in 4 days!

glmron · Dec 20, 2011

View media item 14212Borrowed this stump grinder from a friend. Once I replaced the cutters with a set I made using carbide end mill inserts it worked great.

spaulman · Dec 20, 2011

I'm waiting for the build of my 32x48 to begin any day now. Sounds like we are planning similar builds except I'm going 14' high on the walls. The weather this fall hasn't helped with the schedule any.

glmron · May 25, 2012

Stripping off topsoil.

NUTTSGT · May 26, 2012

It's been nice weather this week,glad to see you at it.

Kevin54 · May 26, 2012

I have a question, if you borrowed a stump grinder you didn't grind the stumps where you are planning on the garage going did you? If so, you need to use the 'hoe and dig the stumps out. You don't want any stumps rotting underneath the garage. Just sayin'

glmron · May 26, 2012

Yep, dug the stumps out from where the building will be. Used the grinder to remove stumps from the yard where I spread the stripped topsoil.

glmron · May 26, 2012

Pad is ready and poles got delivered. Using Richland laminated columns with post protectors.

glmron · Aug 26, 2012

Had some good weather and am getting a lot done.

glmron · Aug 26, 2012

Working on the Lean-To's

Kalstar · Aug 27, 2012

Looking great, keep us updated.

glmron · Dec 18, 2012

Setting trusses. Made an extension for the backhoe and it worked great. The day after I set the last truss I blew the main hydraulic line to the backhoe, it was rubbing on the transmission under the seat and just wore through, $200 for a new one.

mellamoesrico · Dec 18, 2012

Man, that is one nice looking construction site you have there! Great building so far. I hate finish and trim work, but framing gets me all kinds of pumped up.

glmron · Dec 19, 2012

Thanks, I have been planning this building for a long time. I designed it almost board for board in 3D on a cad program and so far have done all the work myself.

glmron · Dec 19, 2012

Finally got the roof on. Nice to get some my things under a roof for a change.
It's hard to get much done this time of year.

sfd524 · Dec 19, 2012

Looking great. I love the roof lines. Do you know what the designed snow load is? Keep the pictures coming!

glmron · Dec 19, 2012

Snow load for the trusses is 30.0 psf. As far as the lean-to's go I went with 2x6's - 24" oc, double 2x8 carriers on 6x6 posts 10' oc. The rafters are dove tail locked and lag screwed to the ledger so they won't pull away from the wall.

cyamaha2007 · Dec 19, 2012

Looks great. Keep up the hard work.

sfd524 · Dec 20, 2012

glmron said:
Snow load for the trusses is 30.0 psf. As far as the lean-to's go I went with 2x6's - 24" oc, double 2x8 carriers on 6x6 posts 10' oc. The rafters are dove tail locked and lag screwed to the ledger so they won't pull away from the wall.

Nice. My snow load is 55psf, must get a little more snow here. Keep up the good work.

glmron · May 20, 2013

Framed the upper door opening and wrapped with aluminum. Here is a pic of a baby fox living in a culvert pipe down the road.

Kevin54 · May 21, 2013

glmron said:
Pad is ready and poles got delivered. Using Richland laminated columns with post protectors.

I know this is about a year to the date later, but the post protectors, are they just a plastic sleeve with a bottom on them? By a bottom, I mean could you fill one up with water and it would hold? Not that I'd want to fill one with water, just saying. Around here, as far as I know, and from the pole barns I have saw, no one uses anything like that. I can see where they would really extend the life of the poles.

I also notice that you have a smaller one in there or a few smaller ones. What are those for?

glmron · May 21, 2013

Yes they are a plastic sleeve and are sealed at the bottom and You can leave them sealed or drill a drain hole if you want depending on your soil conditions. I used (4) 1/2 lag bolts to secure them to the posts. They do a couple of things that I liked and thought they were worth using.

The theory behind using them is that they create a barrier between the soil or and the post and keep the chemical treatment in the post and not allowing it to wick away into the soil over time extending the life of the pole greatly.

They also have horizontal ribs that provide uplift protection. I had to move two posts that I had in the wrong place and there is no way you can pull out a post with one of these attached to it. I had to completely dig it out all the way to the bottom, that really impressed me. It took me longer to get it out than to put it in.

The different sizes are for the different size posts. the treated posts are 6x6 and the laminated posts are basically (3) 2x6's laminated together 6x41/2. You order the size you need to fit the post.

They cost about $35 each and added $800 to the cost of the building. I will probably cut them off a little above the floor level after it is poured.

http://www.postprotector.com/features-benefits/index.html

camjeep3 · May 21, 2013

glmron said:
View media item 14212Borrowed this stump grinder from a friend. Once I replaced the cutters with a set I made using carbide end mill inserts it worked great.

any more pictures of the famall? M?

glmron · May 21, 2013

Here are some pics of my Farmalls. They are future restoration projects when the barn gets done.

NUTTSGT · May 21, 2013

I'm guessing, you're getting ready to get back at it this summer ?

glmron · May 21, 2013

NUTTSGT said:
I'm guessing, you're getting ready to get back at it this summer ?

Yep, really busy at work the past few months. I was going to concentrate on the siding and trim but I think I am going to get the floor poured now that the weather is better.

camjeep3 · May 22, 2013

glmron said:
Here are some pics of my Farmalls. They are future restoration projects when the barn gets done.

NIce! I love the steel wheels. Me and my friend have restored a tractor every year for the past three years, and then rode it through the big parade at christmas. this year he got a 59 541 offset hi crop and a 46 oliver 70. both rare tractors around here... He did a famall m last year. cant wait to see what comes out of your shop when you finish!

glmron · May 22, 2013

The F-12 was my grandfathers, he bought it in the early 50's and used it on his small farm. He used it up till a few years ago. He did not think it was a classic tractor or an antique tractor, just his tractor. I even have the original receipt from when he bought it.... It will be like new when I get done with it.

rieferman · May 22, 2013

Kevin asked the question I had about the sleeve protectors. I read about them a lot when I used to sell for a company that exclusively used Perma-Collumns - I tried to convince the bosses that we should consider offering both as a way to offer longevity of post at two price points. For the price of those sleeve protectors and how easy they are to transport and install, I can't imagine why every pole barn building wouldn't use them. Lots of good reviews, glad your experience is the same. Your project is looking great!

glmron · May 22, 2013

rieferman said:
Kevin asked the question I had about the sleeve protectors. I read about them a lot when I used to sell for a company that exclusively used Perma-Collumns - I tried to convince the bosses that we should consider offering both as a way to offer longevity of post at two price points. For the price of those sleeve protectors and how easy they are to transport and install, I can't imagine why every pole barn building wouldn't use them. Lots of good reviews, glad your experience is the same. Your project is looking great!

I looked at the perma-columns, very expensive, and I had an issue with the way the pole is connected, just a metal U bracket that use 2 bolts to fasten the pole, the bracket is welded to the ends of some rebar cast into the concrete, think about it, your building is only being held down by about (4) quarter size welds for each pole, it is a weak point. I would rather put the whole pole in the ground it is much more rigid.

The post protectors are simple and easy to install, slide it over the post and lag screw it to the post. They are just blow molded plastic, very light, a little bulky to transport, mine got delivered with the poles, the truck driver and I lifted the whole skid of 29 off the truck by hand. The skid probably weighed more than the post protectors on it.

I see you are from Collegeville Pa I think the post protectors are made in Pottsville pa

rieferman · May 22, 2013

I agree with all your points. The bosses were unwilling to bend, and we were priced out of a lot of business as a result. Shrug!

glmron · Sep 14, 2013

Ready to hang the tin on my new toy box.

sfd524 · Sep 15, 2013

glmron said:
Ready to hang the tin on my new toy box.

Looks good. I see you have one of those "supervisor" chairs in front too!

I would be grateful if you could post some close ups of the upper doors.

glmron · Sep 16, 2013

Here are pics of the upper doors. I used 2x6's lap jointed, glued and screwed together then wrapped in white aluminum trim coil, stainless steel hinges. Will add a stainless steel latch and some weather stripping later.

Yes, you are correct about the supervisor chair, she often sits with her cup of coffee and gives me specific instructions on proper construction techniques, points out any mistakes and warns me of all potential safety hazards.

glmron · Oct 27, 2013

Finally getting some color on. Trying to get it closed up before the snow flies.

Dr Dave · Oct 27, 2013

Looks good, is that bubble wrap foil insulation?

Dave

glmron · Oct 31, 2013

The wrap is called "double bubble" it has foil on the outside and is white on the inside with 2 layers of heavy duty bubble wrap sandwiched in the middle. I needed a vapor barrier anyway and is supposed to give you an R-5 insulation. Cost $400.

GLTHFJ60 · Oct 31, 2013

Beautiful.

What do you have planned for the interior layout?

glmron · Nov 5, 2013

I would like to finish the ceiling and walls with white steel panels. Probably just the ceiling first. Going to spend the next few months getting electric and gas run from the house and get the breaker panel installed. I would like to get the floor poured in the spring. At some point I will get a 2 post lift, tire changer, balancer.

The building will mainly be used for auto repair and restoration, antique tractor restoration, toy storage. The overhang on the right will be mainly storage, just to keep things out of the weather, the one on the right faces the back yard and will like a patio with a swing and picnic table and will display some antiques that we have acquired. I may even screen in a section to keep the bugs out in the summer.

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