German tin snips Hazet, Stahlwille, NWS..?

designed2fail · Apr 29, 2013

Hello everyone. Not a mechanic or body man by trade. I work for a general contractor. I do a lot of flat roof metal copping cap and metal roofs.

Any ways has any one ever used any of these snips? All three brands claim to cut up to 1.8 mm or 14 gauge cold rolled steel that is pretty heavy duty.

I am looking into these for mitered corners on copping cap and fancy detail work nibblers/electric shears cant do.

All help will be greatly appreciated. thank you for your time

NWS http://shop.nws-tools.de/index.php/en/sheet-metal-forming-tools/lever-tin-snips.html
Stahlwille http://www.stahlwille-online.de/inde...etail&pid=7525
Hazet http://www.hazet.com/uploads/tx_d3mlinkedsources/7_7.pdf

designed2fail · Apr 29, 2013

links would help

NWS http://shop.nws-tools.de/index.php/en/sheet-metal-forming-tools/lever-tin-snips.html

Stahlwille http://www.stahlwille-online.de/inde...etail&pid=7525

Hazet http://www.hazet.com/uploads/tx_d3ml...ources/7_7.pdf

designed2fail · Apr 29, 2013

scaltura · Apr 29, 2013

Flip a coin on the NWS or stahlwille

designed2fail · Apr 29, 2013

scaltura said:
Flip a coin on the NWS or stahlwille

So both are very good then I take it?

N.I. · Apr 29, 2013

Gedore?

I like the Gedore ones i have

designed2fail · Apr 29, 2013

N.I. said:
Gedore?

I like the Gedore ones i have

I did not now about the Gedore snips just the 3 I mentioned now I will have to look at them.

Monte · Apr 29, 2013

Stahlwille + Hazet might be from the same supplier ....? Erdi/Bessey....
www.besseytools.com

designed2fail · Apr 29, 2013

Monte said:
Stahlwille + Hazet might be from the same supplier ....? Erdi/Bessey....
www.besseytools.com

Have you had an actual use out of any of the snips listed?

Monte · Apr 29, 2013

I own a pair of the NWS ones, they cut "ok", i have a couple of Bessey/Erdi and Wurth ones which are ok too, the easiest cuts i can do with these from Bessey:

more pics: http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28952&highlight=snap-on+czech+republic&page=396

here are some pics of the NWS snips:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=115330

and Wurth
http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28952&highlight=berner&page=406

designed2fail · Apr 29, 2013

Thanks for the Info Monte. Its been a big help, nice pictures as well.

e30bradley · Apr 29, 2013

I have all wiss snips.. They work good. I've never used anything better but I have used many worse.

designed2fail · Apr 29, 2013

e30bradley said:
I have all wiss snips.. They work good. I've never used anything better but I have used many worse.

I have never really had luck with wiss. I have always used midwest and klein.

If the klein journeyman series with the curved handle could cut heavy gauge like the special hardness blue handled midwest snips I would be in heaven lol

neophyte · Apr 29, 2013

There's a company in Philly that sells and distributes tools for masonry and roofing called Stortz & Son.

http://www.stortz.com/store.asp?pid=31233&catid=19992

The snips they sell are a mixture of brands. The USA made one are from Klenk.

http://www.klenktools.com/Main/Products/AviationSnipsNew.asp

The other snips they carry are from Germany and Austria.

I'm not sure who manufactures these Pelican snips.

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The other brands of snips they sell are from Freund and Stubai.

This is Freunds website. Some of the snips look like rebranded Bessey/Erdi snips. Others I'm not sure.

http://www.freund-tools.com/products/freund_snips_2.html

This is Stubai's website.

http://www.stubai.com/seiten_englisch/frame-main-speng-01-eng.htm

Stortz posted a video showing a comparison of some snips. The single pivot Stubai snips even look like they do a nice job.

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This is a video from a different company showing the Klenk snips being used. The Klenks seem to be popular with some roofing supply companies.

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N.I. · Apr 29, 2013

If anyone hasn't seen it yet, here is the video showing how Wiss make their snips-

Its pretty sweet how they cast the blades.

designed2fail · Apr 30, 2013

Monte said:
I own a pair of the NWS ones, they cut "ok", i have a couple of Bessey/Erdi and Wurth ones which are ok too, the easiest cuts i can do with these from Bessey:

more pics: http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28952&highlight=snap-on+czech+republic&page=396

here are some pics of the NWS snips:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=115330

and Wurth
http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28952&highlight=berner&page=406

I just ordered bessey D29SS-BE lefts and rights.

I was looking for the erdi stamped version from the bessey site as its a little more Americanized in the handle shape. could only find europoan vendors though.

http://sphotos-a.**.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/p206x206/539580_610066465688047_535353812_n.jpg

zer0cell · Apr 30, 2013

If you live in the USA, how about the 'Midwest' snips brand? They can often be gotten at a good discount at sears and they are warrantied as well. Just a thought...

tank4114 · May 1, 2013

i do auto body and i use klenk snips USA made ,and cut smooth dont have teeth like some snips

designed2fail · May 2, 2013

Well they came in and I got a friendly shock when I opened the box to realize I did not get what I ordered. Instead of the bessey snips shown in the picture I got the Erdi stamped ones I was looking for. Big smile to my face then.

First impression very nice quality, the blades come together tight almost to tight. In the hand they feel very well balanced almost identical to the klein curved handled snips. Really nice feel to them.

They do seem to weigh more than both the klein and midwest snips. Nothing major just a heavier feel to them. Though I do not have either brand with me nor a scale to prove that though. But in my hands memory these seem to weigh a bit more. Still extremely balanced though.

As for as cutting these are a dream to cut with. I took a piece of scrap 20G double hemmed galvalume and cut on a 45 DEG angle. My result It cut through it like a hot knife through butter it was amazing. When into the un-hemmed area of the piece I could use the full length of the jaws with no ripple affect what so ever. The double hinged jaws make cutting a breeze.

on to the heavier test the 18g double hemmed painted steel sheets. Again same test was applied do a cut at 45 DEG angle. This was not like a hot knife through butter but it did cut through with very little minimal effort on my end. Just like in the previous test I could use the full length of the jaws and not get the ripple affect from the cut metal.

I would highly really recommend these snips to any one who fabricates metal for a living. Just spend the extra few dollars on these your hands will love you for it. My midwest and kleins maybe no so much any more.

Monte · May 2, 2013

nice ! So you accidentally got what you wanted :thumbup:

designed2fail · May 2, 2013

Monte said:
nice ! So you accidentally got what you wanted

Yep. I think this is the only time I am not returning a wrong order or being disappointed getting a different item than what was listed lol

Thanks again for turning me on to these snips.

Monte · May 3, 2013

no problem

submariner · Feb 22, 2016

Is the Erdi/Bessey D29ASS-2 & D29ASSL-2 made in China?

I ask because the the tool is not marked with COO and a lot of Erdi/Bessey snips is now made in China.

Monte · Feb 22, 2016

submariner said:
Is the Erdi/Bessey D29ASS-2 & D29ASSL-2 made in China?

I ask because the the tool is not marked with COO and a lot of Erdi/Bessey snips is now made in China.

The last time i checked it was Made in Germany

mikebaker1129 · Feb 22, 2016

I purchased a pair of each from Harry J Epstein,pretty sure they were on close out .
Midwest are pretty good also,but bessy/ erdle are sweet.

submariner · Feb 24, 2016

AFAIK NWS is the only one that has the COO clearly marked. I love to be proven wrong

PaintNBodyGuy · Mar 9, 2020

Just my two cents guys at Chads ****** ToolBox wont even respond to my warranty request for these overhardened brittle POS overpriced pliers. Go with Wiss. Upper chip on last picture is darker because these pliers came with that chip and made it through quality control. What a ******* joke.

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HenryAZ · Mar 9, 2020

From a mention in an earlier thread, I just bought, and really like, the NWS English Pattern Tin Snips. They are strong and give a nice long straight cut. The handles open so wide, though, that you either have to use two hands, or rest one handle on the bench.

NWS tin snips at Chad's Toolbox

Slkay944 · Mar 9, 2020

Where did you order them from?

Stooge · Mar 9, 2020

7yr old thread but....I bought a pair of Bessey D29ASS right offset snips awhile back to see if I wanted a complete set, but they were one of the very few tools that I've ever been disappointed in enough to return. They looked really nice and had a good feel to them, but were just ok cutting 20ga, and were unusable on 18ga that I bought them for (were advertised as good to 16ga). My Wiss and Midwest snips work just fine on 18

PaintNBodyGuy · Mar 9, 2020

Slkay944 said:
Where did you order them from?

Chadstoolbox.com

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