KR-562A My taco cart restore

softailgarage · Feb 13, 2014

Late last year I bought a used KRL-1022 and a used KR-562A from my Snap On guy as a package deal along with a brand new Snap On stool he threw in as a gift, $4,000 for both, delivered to my house. The KRL is in near mint condition as he was using it in the truck as his desk. The KR on the other hand was in pretty bad shape. Not dented or banged up, but filthy as hell, covered in stickers from the 80's and grease everywhere. The drawer rails are coated with bearing grease and sludge so much I've decided to replace them. I called Tom, my Snap On guy to get a quote, his reply was, " not much, maybe a couple of bucks per rail" so, I said, go ahead, order 'em"...should have known better. Couple weeks later Tom calls me, say's he's got them...$260.00! :wtf:

"Jesus Christ Tom, a couple of bucks per rail?" Well, after some pissin' & moanin' he took $100.00 off, which was much appreciated.

softailgarage · Feb 13, 2014

The new rails...

930dreamer · Feb 13, 2014

Looks like it has 24 rails?

chris fresh · Feb 13, 2014

Why did you pay for slides?,I redid the snappy in my sig and the slides were shot.I called them and the rep asked how many i needed,i said how much? he said free including ship.******** slides are warrenteed for life.I replaced all of them for free including ship on their dime.I was super impressed,So did your guy get you for 160.00? I'de ask him.

softailgarage · Feb 13, 2014

Next stage was to sandblast. I gave Don Long a call, knowing he had that fancy new shipping container converted to a blast room and asked to use it. Don, the ever so gracious man he is, agreed and after removing the drawers , I threw them in the truck and went for a ride. Don never ceases to amaze me, every time I see that place I'm floored by what he and his wife, Anne have done and he always has half a dozen projects going on. I can only hope I have that much energy in a couple of years. So, yesterday I spent a good 4 hours in the blast room, using Garnett as the media. Garnett worked just fine leaving minimal residue with maximum effect. Next, I'll hose down the drawers and prime . Now, am I missing something or will going directly to primer be a problem? :dunno:

I've read some guy's will use an etching liquid prior to paint.

softailgarage · Feb 13, 2014

930dreamer said:
Looks like it has 24 rails?

The rest are in the bag in the background

chris fresh said:
Why did you pay for slides?,I redid the snappy in my sig and the slides were shot.I called them and the rep asked how many i needed,i said how much? he said free including ship.******** slides are warrenteed for life.I replaced all of them for free including ship on their dime.I was super impressed,So did your guy get you for 160.00? I'de ask him.

Serious? Does that include bearing grease? I'm making a call.

chris fresh · Feb 13, 2014

softailgarage said:
The rest are in the bag in the background

Serious? Does that include bearing grease? I'm making a call.

No ******** bro,It was the first time i had dealt with snap-on.I called them and that was the deal,i had a box of slides show up for free.That's why i was kind of shocked when you said he hit you for 260,then dropped 100 to make you feel good.

Look into it,think of this,Why would i say something like that on this board if it weren't true.39 people would have called me by now.Just lookin out for ya.Call and confirm,then ask your truck guy and see if the stories match.

follow the link to my snap on resto in my sig,check post #54 #58 pics of slides and info

softailgarage · Feb 13, 2014

chris fresh said:
No ******** bro,It was the first time i had dealt with snap-on.I called them and that was the deal,i had a box of slides show up for free.That's why i was kind of shocked when you said he hit you for 260,then dropped 100 to make you feel good.

Look into it,think of this,Why would i say something like that on this board if it weren't true.39 people would have called me by now.Just lookin out for ya.Call and confirm,then ask your truck guy and see if the stories match.

Oh, I believe you. That's why Tom took $100.00 off. He comes by the shop tomorrow, time for a chit chat. Thank you!

zkling · Feb 13, 2014

Between what you initially paid and the slide prices, me thinks you need to find a new driver. Otherwise you are just putting that guy into a new ______ insert luxury item here.

tbaggz · Feb 13, 2014

Lifetime slide warranty.I bought an old box that needed friction slides and they are absolutely free.your friend is robbing you.sorry to hear it.definitely call him on it and tell corporate about the thievery at hand.

cmanningjr · Feb 15, 2014

softailgarage said:
Next stage was to sandblast. I gave Don Long a call, knowing he had that fancy new shipping container converted to a blast room and asked to use it. Don, the ever so gracious man he is, agreed and after removing the drawers , I threw them in the truck and went for a ride. Don never ceases to amaze me, every time I see that place I'm floored by what he and his wife, Anne have done and he always has half a dozen projects going on. I can only hope I have that much energy in a couple of years. So, yesterday I spent a good 4 hours in the blast room, using Garnett as the media. Garnett worked just fine leaving minimal residue with maximum effect. Next, I'll hose down the drawers and prime . Now, am I missing something or will going directly to primer be a problem? I've read some guy's will use an etching liquid prior to paint.

How aggressive was the garnet on the metal?? I don't know much about blasting and was wondering how different media was on different types if metal.

Great project!!!

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Deskmechanic · Feb 15, 2014

Yep, I got replacement slides for my KR557 and KR537 by calling customer service and asking for them. Every slide, as many as you got, for free.

thesilverone · Feb 16, 2014

any updates?

chris fresh · Feb 17, 2014

So did Strap-On throw in the lube on the deal,or what?

Lookin4'67Galaxieconv · Feb 17, 2014

chris fresh said:
So did Strap-On throw in the lube on the deal,or what?

aaron77 · Feb 17, 2014

Same here I just called snap on and they sent me new slides as well as new casters and a new lock. All for free.

alpinewhite · Feb 17, 2014

aaron77 said:
Same here I just called snap on and they sent me new slides as well as new casters and a new lock. All for free.

Wow. Thanks for the tip. Did they require any sort of proof?

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Jeremiah14 · Feb 17, 2014

I guess I'll chime in. Matco is the same. Call and they'll send them to you. Free.

On a side note, those crappy boxes from tractor supply, same deal. I know because I drove a car into a coworkers box one day. I called to buy drawers, and they sent them all for free! She said she had no way to take money. So they warrantyed my oops. How cool is that?

Flattie · Feb 17, 2014

softailgarage said:
The new rails...

Is it possible to get the dimensions and part number on the longer slides. I am working an older box. I called Snapon and the gave sold me slides that are too short and the longer ones you have might be reworkable to what I need.

Lookin4'67Galaxieconv · Feb 17, 2014

Flattie said:
Is it possible to get the dimensions and part number on the longer slides. I am working an older box. I called Snapon and the gave sold me slides that are too short and the longer ones you have might be reworkable to what I need.

Remember to specify if you need the slides for the drawers on the front as opposed to those on the side as the drawers on the front are deeper.

These slides are also interchangeable with other boxes of that era, KR 537, 547, 557, 531, etc.

Flattie · Feb 17, 2014

Lookin4'67Galaxieconv said:
Remember to specify if you need the slides for the drawers on the front as opposed to those on the side as the drawers on the front are deeper.

These slides are also interchangeable with other boxes of that era, KR 537, 547, 557, 531, etc.

My problem is I am restoring a KR-352 from the 50's. I am lucky to be the second owner... So I don't have the same box but was hoping the longer runners on this box might be something to start with. The folks at snap on have tried to dig, but I am hoping to at least give them a place to start. Been searching for months. Sorry to hijack. OP has a great box

espyking83 · Feb 17, 2014

I've got a 562C and it's definitely a head turner in my hangar, especially withnthe greynhairs. Awesome boxes, fell in love with them the first time I saw one. Very unique.

espyking83 · Feb 17, 2014

Are wheels covered under warranty btw?

miketyler · Feb 18, 2014

I'd be surprised if they weren't. I loved my aviation box/taco wagon and I got a lot of miles out of it. Its ideal for rolling up to aircraft as you have access on three sides for storage. Also cool was the spring shock absorbers. It was the cats-*** back in the day.

And yes on the rail warranty. I bought a KRL the other day and one rail was actually missing the roller carrier slide assy. I called it in to buy a replacement and not only did they replace it but they insisted on sending a pair. They told me to hang on to the old ones for a week or so and that if I received a call tag in the mail to send them back. Damn good company to deal with and you actually speak to a real person.

Did you check into upgrading from the friction-style rails to the more modern 4 piece ball bearing rails? That would be one slick box with ultra smooth gliding drawers.

miketyler · Feb 18, 2014

OK, here you go. That box was top of the line in the 1980 catalog. I would have imbedded the links but the images are huge. Scans are courtesy of www.collectingsnapon.com

Lookin4'67Galaxieconv · Feb 18, 2014

espyking83 said:
Are wheels covered under warranty btw?

I doubt it.

softailgarage · Feb 21, 2014

OK, as far as my Snap On guy Tom, he hasn't been by and is not returning my phone calls. Someone at another shop in the complex said something about health problems, so for now I'll have to wait.

Flattie: The part # is on the rail itself. The #'s I have are 8-1257 for the narrow drawers & 8-267 for the wider drawer's.
cmanningjr The Garnett was/is perfect for this. I've used it before on other boxes with no harm coming to the metal at all. Aggressive enough to remove the paint in a timely fashion without damage like glass beads would do.

I did run into a slight hitch in the giddyup, the day after my initial post, I came out to the garage and found grease stains along the rail tracks. I figured the sand blasting had removed any grease left on, but apparently not...

So, I had to break out the TSP and knife. dug the remaining grease out of the grooves, then gave each drawer a good scrub down. Pain in the *** and time consuming as hell, but had to be done. I'm using Rustoleum Rusty Metal Primer, which I always use, seems to work best as opposed to the black or gray primers. I still have about 4 drawers left to prime and then I can move on to the box itself. I am a little surprised at the amount of primer it's taking, so far 7 cans. These are just a couple...

Lookin4'67Galaxieconv · Feb 21, 2014

softailgarage said:
I'm using Rustoleum Rusty Metal Primer, which I always use, seems to work best as opposed to the black or gray primers. I still have about 4 drawers left to prime and then I can move on to the box itself. I am a little surprised at the amount of primer it's taking, so far 7 cans.

You're painting all the surface area on each drawer, front inside, side, back, bottom, correct? That's a lot of surface area and 13 drawers, so I would expect it to take at least ten cans.

When I do a repaint on a box, usually the bottom and back of the drawer is fine, sometimes the sides, so I'll just respray the front and inside of the drawer. Figure the original coat is fine on those other parts, and they're never seen or seldom (sides). Since you're doing a complete respray I understand why you're painting everything, but it's also going to take a lot of primer and paint.

softailgarage · Feb 21, 2014

Your right about the area. At this rate, this will be an expensive restore, I'm almost considering not painting the inside of the box, but on the other hand I don't want it turning out half assed either.

Lookin4'67Galaxieconv · Feb 21, 2014

Don't half *** it. You'll regret it if you do.

zkling · Feb 21, 2014

softailgarage said:
Your right about the area. At this rate, this will be an expensive restore, I'm almost considering not painting the inside of the box, but on the other hand I don't want it turning out half assed either.

Thus why I try to avoid "restoration needed boxes". However in this case I think spending a few or many extra hours of work will really pay off in the end. Done up right and taken care of properly that box could be around for many years to come. Plus if you are anything like me in the back of your mind you will always know there are the imperfect spots and it will drive you mad. :willy_nil

unashamedlaborer · Feb 22, 2014

chris fresh said:
No ******** bro,It was the first time i had dealt with snap-on.I called them and that was the deal,i had a box of slides show up for free.That's why i was kind of shocked when you said he hit you for 260,then dropped 100 to make you feel good.

Look into it,think of this,Why would i say something like that on this board if it weren't true.39 people would have called me by now.Just lookin out for ya.Call and confirm,then ask your truck guy and see if the stories match.

follow the link to my snap on resto in my sig,check post #54 #58 pics of slides and info

So I too am fixing up an old KR-562b and thanks to this thread I am getting all new slides free 99. I figured it was time to see how good a driver I have too as I would of paid for them before I stumbled upon this wonderful thread. THANK YOU!!!!

Lookin4'67Galaxieconv · Feb 22, 2014

unashamedlaborer said:
So I too am fixing up an old KR-562b and thanks to this thread I am getting all new slides free 99. I figured it was time to see how good a driver I have too as I would of paid for them before I stumbled upon this wonderful thread. THANK YOU!!!!

The only stipulation for your free slides is you must post pics of your box. :beer:

softailgarage · Feb 22, 2014

Lookin4'67Galaxieconv said:
The only stipulation for your free slides is you must post pics of your box.

x2

alpinewhite · Feb 22, 2014

Lookin4'67Galaxieconv said:
The only stipulation for your free slides is you must post pics of your box.

Post it where?

Can I order an entire set for my KR761?

unashamedlaborer · Feb 22, 2014

Still Need a butcher block top, one piece of corner trim, new locks, and waiting for my slides to come in. But I couldn't be happier for the $300 it cost me.

Lookin4'67Galaxieconv · Feb 22, 2014

Unashamed, very nice. However, I noticed the badge on it looks incorrect. For the trim style of that box, looks like it should have the newer SO badge. Did you buy it with this badge on it?

KSB · Feb 22, 2014

Very nice, as I watch more restores of these boxes I become convinced I need one of these.

unashamedlaborer · Feb 22, 2014

Lookin4'67Galaxieconv said:
Unashamed, very nice. However, I noticed the badge on it looks incorrect. For the trim style of that box, looks like it should have the newer SO badge. Did you buy it with this badge on it?

Yep it's correct built in 1981 it is right at the end of that period.

Lookin4'67Galaxieconv · Feb 22, 2014

unashamedlaborer said:
Yep it's correct built in 1981 it is right at the end of that period.

Ah, okay. That's the first one I've seen with the newer trim and the older badge. :thumbup:

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