Massachusetts garage renovation after a fire

BlueBomber · Mar 22, 2014

Hello, all. I've been a fan of this site ever since I found it while researching ways to improve my garage after a fire in July 2013 caused me to gut it and start over. I wanted to share some of my experience and rebuilding process with the GJ crowd one: because you all like garages, and two: so that others can learn from my mistake and reconstruction efforts.

The fire started because I ignored a warning label on a can of deck stain and threw the clean up rags into the trash cans in the garage. The deck stain contained natural oils that oxidize as they dry. The oxidation creates heat which, if spread out over the many fibers of a cotton rag, happens very quickly and creates lots of heat. If the rag is balled up and in a can full of combustibles, a fire quickly follows. I had never experienced this phenomenon before and thinking I was smarter than the warning label, dismissed it. I only became aware of the above after the fire was out. Bottom line here: believe those labels!

The insurance company was really great - coverage was for full replacement, and there was no haggling over claims or paperwork. The disaster recovery company they recommended was not so great, and I wrestled with them for months to complete estimates, get started on renovations, and to get them finished. It took nearly eight months to get renovations done and moved back in.

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View media item 38947Here's where the fire started. This is the area just inside the door, where the cans sat. Nearly every thing here was reduced to ashes, and the fire went up into the rafters of the first floor ceiling from here.

View media item 38948I had overhead shelves loaded with combustibles that baked through the rafters and flooring here. This bay normally holds my Mustang convertible, but I was doing wood projects in the bay that weekend, and thankfully the pony was parked outside.

View media item 38951The '60 Bel Air was heavily coated in smoke filth and had plastic things melted down onto it.

View media item 38952The fire superheated the air in the garage and anything made of plastic that was more than 2-3 feet above the floor melted in some way. Here you can see the plastic tabs holding the fluorescent bulbs melted, dropping the bulbs to the floor.

View media item 38953My Craftsman chop saw, a good Craigslist score, was done.

View media item 38954Here's the worst damage. The fire actually ate through four of the floor joists, two on each side of the main beam.

View media item 38966Renovations took a long time to get started, due to the builder, not the insurance company. After waiting 2.5 months, they got this far in the the first week. The entire first floor wall was replaced on this end of the building.

While the building was empty, I replaced the cracked slab...
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...discovered there was no frost wall on the uphill side of the garage and fixed that...
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...ran water and gas to the building for a radiant heat system...
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...moved the internal 2nd floor access outside...
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...and insulated and sheetrocked the first floor.
View media item 38975I went with the rock vice plywood specifically for the fire resistance. Plus, I don't anticipate needing to randomly hang heavy objects away from a stud.
I'll also continue to post pictures and updates as the move-in and tool replacement continues.

This was a BFD for our family. We lost a cat, most of the contents of the barn, and the use of it for eight months. Plus, it sucked up nearly all of my free time. In the end, I'll end up with a better garage than we had before the fire, but I do NOT recommend my pathway to improvement to anyone! I'll continue to post updates when I find time to get back out into the garage.

Hpozzuoli · Mar 22, 2014

Thank you for sharing and reminding us about proper disposal of such stuff. I am guilty of throwing rags in a pile and forgetting about them.

One good thing about this was your barn is not attached to the house. Can't wait to see the rebuild.

captain14 · Mar 22, 2014

Do you have the new garage set up for monitoring now? If not to an alarm company how about to your house?

Smoke and heat detectors even wired to a klaxton outside the garage to alert someone there is an issue here.

BlueBomber · Mar 22, 2014

captain14 said:
Do you have the new garage set up for monitoring now? If not to an alarm company how about to your house?

Smoke and heat detectors even wired to a klaxton outside the garage to alert someone there is an issue here.

Yep, I installed heat detectors on the first floor, hard-wire interconnected to a smoke detector on the second floor, which wirelessly connects to a second smoke detector in the house. The only thing that saved my barn from being a total loss was the neighbor across the street smoking her last cigarette of the day at 11:30 PM (we had already gone to bed, not knowing our garage was baking). She saw the fire poke out through the eaves and called 911. Needless to say, I don't want to rely on that kind of luck twice.

1/2 Cup · Mar 22, 2014

Thanks for posting, I am another one guilty of doing just that... :thumbup:

BlueBomber · Mar 30, 2014

On a long rainy New England weekend, I did a little more moving in and cleaning today. I moved my old Kobalt tool chest back in, but it is still full of skunked tools that all need a good cleaning. I also pulled out my old welders and placed them back on the welding cart I had built for them two years ago. I haven't plugged either one in yet. They will likely work for a little while, but I was advised to replace all electrical devices and power tools, as they could be damaged or corroded internally.

Here's the old cart. I built it out of scrap bedframe and bicycle parts. The welds were with the flux-core MIG and are not pretty, but are functional.
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These new puppies will get a new welding cart built for them, also from scrap metal and bike parts.

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Inspired by Jack Olsen's double sided clock, I whipped up a plywood mount for my two blue neon wall clocks. The clocks are battery operated, but the neon comes on when I hit the overhead lights. I like it. Sorry, these pictures are a little blurry.
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I recycled some scrap plywood that was removed from the attic during renovations, and hit it with the Rustoleum Hammered Grey. It's not as smooth as Jack's, but at least that's up.
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And last but not least, I finally got the phone line hooked back up. The night of the fire, the wires were shorted in the barn, so I went down into the house basement and snipped the line coming in from the barn. I stripped and reconnected the basement line today, and then spent 20 minutes troubleshooting why it didn't work. Turns out the electrician had wired the barn outlet incorrectly. I swapped two wires and got a dial tone. Success!
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GTO · Mar 30, 2014

Sorry for your loss,glad to see construction moving along.
New pictures look great.Keep up the good work.

aandpdan · Mar 30, 2014

Wow.

I think we're all guilty of throwing some oily rags into the trash thinking it can't happen.

Sorry for your loss. The new build looks great.

vette66bob · Mar 30, 2014

Sharing you loss reminds all of us not to take fire safety for granted. Good housekeeping and isolation of flammable materials and chemicals is a must. You turned a tragedy into a positive garage improvement.
I am sure if you could have avoided the fire you would have. Keep up the good work.

BlueBomber · Mar 30, 2014

vette66bob said:
I am sure if you could have avoided the fire you would have. Keep up the good work.

You're darn tootin'! After burying the cat we lost, throwing my tools in the dumpster was the hardest part. That and the posterior pain of wrangling contractors. Thanks for the well wishes.

aandpdan said:
Wow.

I think we're all guilty of throwing some oily rags into the trash thinking it can't happen.

Sorry for your loss. The new build looks great.

GTO said:
Sorry for your loss,glad to see construction moving along.
New pictures look great.Keep up the good work.

Thanks, all. Work is keeping me pretty busy all week long, and could eat up my whole weekend if I let it. I play hookie from reports and e-mail working in the barn. At this slow pace, I'll never have nothing to do out there!

Mike

Lawson4450 · Mar 30, 2014

Sorry for your loss I have been to a couple of fires in gararges and decks for the same reason.At least no one was hurt and you can rebuild to suit your needs. Make sure you have a metal can with a lid for future stuff like thatthat one with a foot pedal that closes automatically.

Re-Volv · Mar 30, 2014

Great thread, sad to hear about your fire (especially since it's close to home!)

The re-do is looking great! I'm very eager to hear what your thoughts are on those two Eastwood machines since they've been pushing them pretty hard and the prices are very attractive.

Hugo L. · Mar 30, 2014

Poor kitty. :-(

W0rLDWaR4 · Mar 30, 2014

Looks good

I like that clock on the wall with the neon lights!

Radio Ron w4ron · Mar 30, 2014

Damn, those pix of the fire damage make me sick to my stomach.
We almost lost our house and my 44 year radio collection
to a fire caused by one of those cheap walmart plastic fans.
Luckily we came into the house just before the smoke detectors
went off, I managed to get the fire extinguisher and get it put out
before it got out of control.

Good luck with your rebuild.

rixtrix1 · Mar 31, 2014

Sorry for your losses. On another note, how do you like your Eastwood welder&plasma cutter? Amazing how the welder mimics my Lincoln SP175. Definitely a great price , warranty and free shipping.

BlueBomber · Mar 31, 2014

rixtrix1 said:
Sorry for your losses. On another note, how do you like your Eastwood welder&plasma cutter? Amazing how the welder mimics my Lincoln SP175. Definitely a great price , warranty and free shipping.

Re-Volv said:
Great thread, sad to hear about your fire (especially since it's close to home!)

The re-do is looking great! I'm very eager to hear what your thoughts are on those two Eastwood machines since they've been pushing them pretty hard and the prices are very attractive.

I haven't actually plugged in or tried the two Eastwood boxes (almost a sin, right?). Like a lot of my replacement tools, I happened upon them at a great sale price and ordered them, but have not immediate need for to use them. Like someone else on another thread once said, I bought a welder to build a welding cart for the welder I just bought! :lol:

Maybe next weekend...

BlueBomber · Mar 31, 2014

Radio Ron said:
Damn, those pix of the fire damage make me sick to my stomach.
We almost lost our house and my 44 year radio collection
to a fire caused by one of those cheap walmart plastic fans.
Luckily we came into the house just before the smoke detectors
went off, I managed to get the fire extinguisher and get it put out
before it got out of control.

Good luck with your rebuild.

Glad you caught it before it did serious damage. Which reminds me, I need to put a fire extinguisher out there before I do any welding....

BlueBomber · Mar 31, 2014

Lawson4450 said:
Sorry for your loss I have been to a couple of fires in gararges and decks for the same reason.At least no one was hurt and you can rebuild to suit your needs. Make sure you have a metal can with a lid for future stuff like thatthat one with a foot pedal that closes automatically.

Yep, I've been on the lookout for one at a good price. However, I may just buy one outright before I start getting back into serious projects out there.

Hugo L. said:
Poor kitty. :-(

Yes. Belle (or as we sometimes called her, Dumb Belle) was a rescue cat with a little PTSD. She never liked me all that much, but she loved my son.
Our other barn cat, Rufus, somehow survived in the same building with nothing more than burned feet. We were frankly shocked after seeing the inside of the barn.

W0rLDWaR4 said:
Looks good I like that clock on the wall with the neon lights!

Hey, thanks - it was the one project I actually got done this weekend.

BlueBomber · Apr 6, 2014

Re-Volv said:
The re-do is looking great! I'm very eager to hear what your thoughts are on those two Eastwood machines since they've been pushing them pretty hard and the prices are very attractive.

rixtrix1 said:
Sorry for your losses. On another note, how do you like your Eastwood welder&plasma cutter? Amazing how the welder mimics my Lincoln SP175. Definitely a great price , warranty and free shipping.

I finally got a chance/excuse to plug in the Eastwood plasma torch yesterday. I was working to get the gas tank back into the Chevy plow truck after replacing the fuel pump when I discovered the crossmember that the tank attaches to was no longer itself attached to the truck on one side!

Here's what it looks like out of the truck:
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The corrosion under the truck is pretty bad - but its almost all structural. The sheet metal is mostly intact. The frame mounts, however...
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I'll be rebuilding both from scrap metal. Anyway, I plugged in the plasma to cut some 1.5" angle iron to replace the crossmember. The plasma torch cut wonderfully, once I set the air pressure below 60 psi, as directed. Too high, and the torch sputters. Equally impressive is that the Eastwood box auto-starts a plasma stream as soon as you squeeze the trigger. My Mtn Gearsmith China-import 3-in-1 box only spat fire when applied to a metal surface.

All in all, the Eastwood plasma cutter gets my enthusiastic thumbs up. I can't wait to put some more time into it to get cuts as good as my angle grinder cutoff wheel.
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Another tool used yesterday was my replacement portable air compressor, a California Air Tools oil-less compressor.

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My old Craftsman portable was in the barn and smoked up in the fire. It still works, but it was old when I got it from my Dad 10 years ago. What sold me on this Cali Air Tools was how quiet it is compared to the Craftsman. Check out the comparison video on the Home Depot site and tell me that you don't want one:
http://www.homedepot.com/p/California-Air-Tools-10-Gal-2-HP-Ultra-Quiet-and-Oil-Free-Air-Compressor-10020/203245210?N=5yc1vZc27pZ8te
Okay, its not quite THAT quiet, but its pretty darn quiet.

Zeke · Apr 6, 2014

I couldn't get that HD compressor link to work. Anyway, on the garage. looks like you made lemonade out of lemons. Did you have much trouble getting insurance funds for replacement tools?

BlueBomber · Apr 6, 2014

Zeke said:
I couldn't get that HD compressor link to work. Anyway, on the garage. looks like you made lemonade out of lemons. Did you have much trouble getting insurance funds for replacement tools?

Zeke,

Did it take you to the HD web site? The forum link let me click through and then select the video under the main picture of the item.

No problems getting the funds, but it was quite a bookkeeping exercise to get them. The tools fall under personal property (vice the structural claim) and so each and every item had to be listed, along with my assessment of the replacement cost of the item and how long ago I'd purchased it and a photograph. Fortunately for me, my garage did not burn down completely, so most everything was still there to help remind me what was in the barn. I certainly would not have recalled everything from memory.

The insurance rep working my personal property claim was kind of new, I think. But once we both figured it out, the funds flowed. Based on the info I submitted in the claim, the insurance company (USAA, by the way - a truly outstanding company) cut me a check for the depreciated value of all 600+ line items. This worked out to be about half of the replacement value that I claimed. Then, for anything I wanted to replace, I have to buy the item and then submit the receipt to receive the difference between depreciated value and replacement value.

It is a little complex, especially when dealing with over 600 line items. The best advice I was given was to claim EVERYTHING, no matter how small, and no matter the apparent condition post-inferno. First, claim everything because all of those $3 dollar cans of spray paint and $5 tubes of adhesive add up up to significant money that YOU paid out over the years. That's what insurance is for. Second claim it even if it plugs n and runs, because the smoke and fumes from any fire with plastics contains sulphuric acids that will corrode the innards of electrical devices, eventually causing them to fail before their time. All of my chrome steel handtools are covered in a furry layer of rust on the top sides. Imagine what the inside of any electrical motor looks like.

Wow, probably a longer answer than you wanted. If anyone has other questions about the insurance claim process, post a note or send me a PM. After all, I started this thread so folks could learn from my mistake.

Mike

Zeke · Apr 6, 2014

Thank you for the detailed explanation and advice.
I did get the link to work. Thanks for that too. I have been around way too many of those noisy direct drive compressors. The one you got seems pretty quiet by comparison.

Motown 454 · Apr 6, 2014

Sorry to hear of your loss of your pet and the garage but glad your back in there.

BlueBomber · Apr 8, 2014

Motown 454 said:
Sorry to hear of your loss of your pet and the garage but glad your back in there.

Thanks, Motown! I wish I could spend more time in there. Maybe when I retire...
:rocker:

BlueBomber · Apr 27, 2014

Another rainy New England weekend, this time with the family out of town. So, I decided to actually get a single project started and finished for once.

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My big Larin vise was pretty blackened in the fire, but being iron and steel, was still a viable tool. Today I took it apart, cleaned it, and repainted. While I was at it, I figured I'd repaint my 20-yr-old crowbar and my wife's antique-barn cast iron frog. Both had been out in the rain for a while and were getting crusty.

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The vise was removed from the barn during demo, and then sat out in the "dirty" shed for the last several month, so it was pretty ugly.

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This picture shows the extreme corrosive effects of a structure fire. When the plastics burned in my barn last summer, they produced, among other nasties, sulfuric acid in the smoke. The acids condensed on all cooler metal surfaces like a dew, but instead of making anything pretty, the acid etched and corroded most dramatically any raw metal. These pipes jaws are an example.

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I used a six-inch bench grinder and a drill, both with wire wheels, to strip and clean to metal objects. I also hit the vise parts with some 120-grit sandpaper to clear the places the wire wheels couldn't get to.

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The vise base is ready for paint. I would have preferred to media blast everything, but I haven't built my blasting cabinet yet. This will do until then. The chrome all cleaned up quite well, although the main sliding vise handle was initially frozen in place. A bit of PB blaster and some persuasion with a 3-pound mini-sledge worked it out.

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The bench grinder wire wheel made short work of the pipe jaws.

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Here's the final results. I rushed the reassembly in advance of the paint completely curing, but it was getting late and I needed to do other stuff tomorrow. So the paint is touched and marred slightly in places, but overall, I'm pleased with the outcome! I used the Rustoleum Professional line, so this color is Safety Red. Note the vise is now fully bolted to the bench, but the bench is not yet bolted to the wall. I'll fix that at the next opportunity.

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The crowbar was painted with a can leftover from another project. The frog I shot with Rustoleum Hammered Bronze, I think.

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rixtrix1 · Apr 27, 2014

Turned out great.

volleyball · Apr 27, 2014

The bright color for the crowbar is something I may just copy. Using a black one around a bunch of old metal and it blends in and can take awhile to find.

If you ran cat3 or higher wire to your garage, you can get the internet out there. Hopefully the power wires are far enough away.
With the fire, have you gotten metal cabinets for all your flammables to go into? I got 1 cabinet for mine and found out that I needed more.
they really add up once you collect them.

BlueBomber · Apr 27, 2014

volleyball said:
The bright color for the crowbar is something I may just copy. Using a black one around a bunch of old metal and it blends in and can take awhile to find.

Good point - bright yellow would maybe keep me from leaving it out in the yard for most of the winter again...

volleyball said:
If you ran cat3 or higher wire to your garage, you can get the internet out there. Hopefully the power wires are far enough away.

The wireless LAN from the house doesn't quite reach. When we were rerunning the barn utilities from the house, I did consider adding a coax line to feed the Verizon signal out there, but I never got around to it. That would be ideal, especially for when we finish the second floor into a rec room. Until then, I may move the wireless router to the barn-side of the house to extend the signal to my man cave.

volleyball said:
With the fire, have you gotten metal cabinets for all your flammables to go into? I got 1 cabinet for mine and found out that I needed more. They really add up once you collect them.

Yes, I've replaced my metal cabinet, but no, they are not the fire-rated flammable ones. For the moment, my fuels are stored outside in a shed. Everything else flammable in a can is in a Gladiator metal cabinet. If I find a good deal on a proper flammables cabinet, I might bite, but they do take up a lot of space. I might just continue to keep the most volatile stuff outside.

BlueBomber · Jun 7, 2014

Wow, its been more than a month since I posted! Today I spent a happy day in the garage working on non-urgent project while putting off for another weekend getting the railing on the deck steps. A man's gotta clear off his workbench before starting a project, right? Well, I had a stack of license plates in the way...

First, a little background: I had previously amassed a 50-state license plate collection for my birth year (1971) and had half of it on the walls when the barn caught fire. I had also put together a Bicentennial plate collection from the 16 states that issued unique tags to celebrate the country's 200th birthday.

Here's what the heat and smoke did to them.

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The other half of my collection (which I had not gotten around to hanging before the fire) was in a box on the floor, and so other than a little sulfuric acid "dew" was in decent shape. Over the last 11 months, I been haunting Ebay to rebuild the collection and have been successful for every state except Oregon. As each new plate came in, I added them to a stack on my desk in the house. Well, Mrs BlueBomber cleaned out the office two weeks ago and I had to move my stack out onto my workbench, where they were taikng up space. So, today I turned this...

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...and this...

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...into this!

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The Goodyear Eagle racing slick was a souvenir from my Rusty Wallace Racing Experience last year. I used my old, sooty Oregon plate (which cleaned up a bit) until I get a July 1971 replacement. I really like the way the display turned out, and this time I kept at it until the entire collection was on the wall. I also put up my rebuilt Bicentennial collection, now expanded to 19 plates (I added Maryland, Pennsylvania, and a New Jersey "booster" plate).

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What do you all think? Does anyone else out there collect license plates for their garage?

Radio Ron w4ron · Jun 8, 2014

Nice collection, great display.
I don't actively collect, I have a few but would like to collect
amateur radio plates if anyone has any they'd like to part with

volleyball · Jun 8, 2014

Was at a car show and had a powdercoater display his work. One was a license plate. Maybe you could get your damaged ones redone.

BlueBomber · Jun 8, 2014

volleyball said:
Was at a car show and had a powdercoater display his work. One was a license plate. Maybe you could get your damaged ones redone.

Thanks for the suggestion. However, for most, if not all, of my collection, the value of each plate wouldn't justify the expense. I'm hoping eventually to put them on Ebay as a collection to see if their "story" makes them worth something to someone out there.

Bib Overalls · Jun 8, 2014

BlueBomber said:
the insurance company (USAA, by the way - a truly outstanding company) cut me a check for the depreciated value of all 600+ line items.
Mike

Been with USAA since 1967. Never had a problem with a claim. They have expanded their eligibility criteria recently. If you have a military connection, officer or enlisted, you may be money ahead if you qualify.

nti06 · Aug 23, 2014

What kind of progress have you made lately?

BlueBomber · Nov 2, 2014

Well, my fellow GJers, work and Boy Scouts has kept me really busy over the summer and fall, but I've managed to squeeze in some garage projects.

First, I got the blast cabinet finished and running, however the black silica tends to clog in the line. I've only used it for a few minutes.

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Next, I managed to finally hook my air compressor up to the 220V power. As you can see, it still needs to be mounted formally to the floor, but the shipping pallet it came on seems to hold it in place nicely. It's good to have the big tank back on line.

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Lots of threads on folks building their own welding carts, and I have done so before, but I noticed this replacement tool box's top was exactly the right size to hold my MIG and plasma cutter. I filled the drawers with clamps, files, and other welding paraphernalia and called it done for now. Later, I'll likely attach some hooks for storing the hoses and ground wires.

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The left-most workbench was treated to a new brace of storage bins.

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Here's what the fire did to my old ones (the three blobs in the top of the picture).

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I salvaged a cabinet front from my wife's office bathroom renovation and built the rest of the cabinet from garage renovation scraps. I mounted my drill press and brought the Craigslist scored router table up from the basement. I also remounted the bench grinder on its stand.

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This weekend, I finally got the railings up on the second floor steps. I kept putting off the job because I was worried I wouldn't be able to get the spindles on the steps lined up correctly. Like many things, when I finally did it, it wasn't so bad.

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Finally, I put my 1949 Coldspot fridge back into service after replacing the door gasket. I'm totally stoked about this vintage fridge I bought from an estate sale near here. The couple had lived in their house since 1949 and I'm pretty sure this was their original appliance. It had been moved to their basement and was very grungy, but for $20, I took a chance on it. It cleaned up very well and will make a great beer/soda fridge for the garage. Eventually, I'll give it a repaint.

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Yep, it's cool (and it cools)! :beer:

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In the next few weeks, I'll get the radiant heat system hooked up and finally have a heated garage.

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I'll try to stay a little more frequent on my posts, if work allows...

BlueBomber · Jan 18, 2015

Tomorrow I'll finally get the radiant heat system fired up in my garage!! I ordered a kit from the Radiant Floor Company in Barton, Vermont over a year ago, and just never had time to put it together. I spent the last three months trying to find a plumber interested enough to give me a reasonable quote and finally hired one right after the new year to assemble the whole contraption. I think he did a pretty good job. Its a bit bigger and more spread out than I expected, but I'll get used to it, I'm sure.

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More pics and details tomorrow (if I can find my own phone!).

volleyball · Jan 18, 2015

Is there a hidden drip cap in your gas line?

Looks pretty. Are you going to cover all that pipe in foam?

BlueBomber · Jan 18, 2015

I've documented my 1956 South Bend lathe find from last summer on the 2014 Garage Sale and the pre-1970s Vintage Tools threads but wanted to add the pictures here.

I'm pleased as punch to find this fine piece of machinery and add it to my garage. Some day I'll get it cleaned and oiled, and then figure out what I'm going to do with it.

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BlueBomber · Jan 18, 2015

volleyball said:
Is there a hidden drip cap in your gas line?

Looks pretty. Are you going to cover all that pipe in foam?

Yep. its out of sight at the bottom of the vertical line up into the heater. I expected to see one up higher, but hey, the plumber's the one with the license, right? :dunno:

I'm actually thinking no to pipe insulation, because any heat lost will go into the room, which is what I'm trying to heat in the first place. I am thinking of building a knee wall to help prevent accidental damage by an errant parking job.

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