Clean slate: 22x25 two-car attached at new home

This seemed like it might be kind of fun to do, so I can track my progress over the weeks/months/years.

Not long after our daughter was born, it was apparent that our 1600 sq ft house with a cramped, but workable, two car garage was getting small. It was a ranch built in the late 1970s, and had essentially no storage at all. Small closets, no shed, so lots of stuff ended up in the garage, or in the spare room, or on the floor. We started looking, and eventually moved into our new home:



There's a one-car garage, door facing the street, and a two car side loader, in an L config. Inside, a mud room joins the two. The single car is my wife's, and the two-car is mine, and is the main topic of this thread. Right now, the stuff that used to live on shelves, and the garden and yard stuff, is all in the single car while my two car awaits completion. More on that in a bit.

We had a couple weeks of downtime between when we closed, and when we moved in. I had intended to paint the garage floor during this time, so it would be move in ready. I chose Rust Bullet as my paint of choice, because it required the minimal amount of prep on this brand new concrete. Amazon's packaging of this paint was so terrible that I only received three of the four gallons I ordered, and all of those had been damaged so badly they were leaking. Amazon made it right, but this caused enough of a delay that I had to wait to paint the floor until we were moved in:

Thanks, Amazon (2)

by krshultz, on Flickr

Eventually, I got what I'd call 2.5 coats of Rust Bullet down. It's great! My painting technique isn't quite so great, as there are lots of roller marks on it. But the paint is performing beautifully and is really nice looking. I did the stub walls with two coats and the floors with three in most places (but not all).

First coat down:



Fancy panorama after completing it:



The roller marks. I thought I was maintaining a wet edge, but the truth is, I'm a software engineer by trade. So maybe I just don't know what that means.



I think here it was still drying. It's the only picture I took before moving cabinets and whatnot in, but obviously I hadn't put up the painting tools. I did take the masking tape off the walls, so at least there's that:

Rust Bullet appears to be a pretty uncommon choice for floor paint, and from my experience, it shouldn't be. It's great stuff. Here are my impressions so far.

It really does require very little prep work. Granted, this house was brand new construction, but even so, the floor was not perfect. There was some staining on the concrete, like this:



I've no idea what that's from. My best guess is this was where the subcontractors were storing some stuff overnight while the house was being built. What I did was take a gas power washer to the floor. It did not touch this stuff at all. So, I contacted Rust Bullet, and talked to some of their very nice and helpful people who told me it should be fine. And it seems like it was. I had no issues with adhesion or coverage.

Rust Bullet's customer support has been really excellent. Every question I've had, they've answered with thoroughly detailed information. I'm quite impressed by them.

The downsides are few, but there are a couple. First, I suggest using some kind of anti-skid additive with it. It is VERY slick when wet. I skipped it because I had anti skid mixed into the Rustoleum paint on my old garage floor. I'm quite bald, and when I slide under a car, that stuff hurts like hell. But you know what else hurts like hell? Falling down.

If you decide to add anti skid later, you must either scuff the floor with sanding pads, or use some of Rust Bullet's etching fluid (called Metal Blast), before putting down another coat of Rust Bullet. Because I've already got cars in the garage, I decided to not do this.

Speaking of putting down more coats, I think you want to do this project all in one shot, because while RB is curing, it smells awful. Took a full week for it to go away, and every time I went into the house through the garage, some of it followed me in. My wife was not a huge fan.

There's also only one color, if you care about that kind of thing. It's kind of silvery gray. I think it looks great, and I think you can top coat it with all kinds of different stuff. I just haven't bothered.

Those are the only downsides I can think of. I've done one oil change on the old Mercedes so far, and spills wiped up with a paper towel. Great!

I would buy it again without hesitation. In fact, if I paint the single car garage floor, I'll use Rust Bullet again.

When we left the other house, I had all kinds of stuff on some 6' tall industrial shelving. This was out of sheer necessity, since there was no attic, no basement, and no crawlspace. In addition to the two cars, I had things like power washers, a chainsaw, propane tanks, an EZ-Up, etc. in the old two-car garage. Now that we've got a nice large crawlspace, and a huge walk in storage room upstairs, I was determined to get as much stuff off the floor as I can. So off to Home Depot I went. I bought 11 linear feet of unfinished, wood wall cabinets. I was gonna put them all up in a line on the front wall, and put my fluids, car parts, paints, and detailing supplies in them. I've got a lot of detailing supplies. I didn't take any pictures of these, mostly because they're still on the floor, right where I put them when I got them home.

Meanwhile, I've also got a three piece Craftsman tool cabinet. It's over ten years old, and was cheap when I bought it - I didn't even spring for the ball bearing slides. It's led a hard life, and things weren't made better by the move. It just feels...rickety. Like it's twisting itself to death somehow.

Anyway, I had visions of a super cool magazine cover looking garage like some of the ones I see on here. I'd paint the wall cabinets a cool color, put up some Mercedes paraphanalia, etc. But then an opportunity I couldn't pass up came along. I'd gone to a surplus site related to my employer, as I do every week, hoping to find something good. Long story short, for the first time in probably a decade, I finally found something good. First there was this Kewaunee Sturdilite lab bench:



This thing is HEAVY! According to Kewaunee's website, they're still in production, and support up to 1000lb. I believe it. The bench itself must weigh 250 or more. It's got four 110V outlets on either side of the riser, each with its own power switch and wall cable. And it all works! I don't have a key to lock the drawers with, but otherwise it's great.

Then there was this, which is the luckiest find I've ever had. Some of you have seen these already:



Two Stanley Vidmar cabinets. "Blue" is a 10-drawer, "Green" is an 11-drawer. Both lived indoors in large electronics labs, and were full of dividers and bins. The green one seems like it was older, and all the roller bearings were very tight. So I went over each of the ones I could get to and forced in some NAPA Sil-Glyde. That freed them up nicely without making a huge mess of everything.

Unlike my old, cheap Craftsman ones, these do not feel rickety.

I struggled with where to put them, and settled on this place. The lab bench would've blocked access to the electrical panel, which is a shame. This little alcove in the garage is about 3' wider than the rest of the room. So that's where the Vidmars went, and the huge shop vac is living in the middle for now.

Pics of the bins and dividers:







The Lista bins don't quite fit in there right, but will probably still be pretty handy.



Getting all of this stuff to the house was a big, big fiasco. That reminds me of something about the Rust Bullet floor. For the last few feet of positioning the Vidmars, my father in law and I slid them on the painted surface. There's not a mark on the paint, and these cabinets weigh, I'm guessing, 300-400lb each. That's a good sign for the paint for sure.

Then I began to torture myself over what kind of drawer liners to use. This was a harder choice than I thought, since there are 21 ~25.5" square drawers to line. It's an odd size and there are a lot of them. I eventually settled on cork floor underlayment, in 2'x3' sheets. I like cork because I think it's cool looking, it's light weight, and it works really well in this setting.



I cut it to 2' squares, and use the leftovers in the Kewaunee. It's not a perfect fit, but 25.x square is such an oddball size that I gave up trying to find perfect.

Next thing? Move stuff from the single car garage into this one, including migrating my tools (and lots of other stuff) into the Vidmar cabinets. I'm torturing myself right now, obsessing over which drawer to put what things in. Later, I'll hang the wall cabinets somewhere, and probably paint them green to match the green Vidmar, just because it's a unique color and I like it. I need more lights, and I need to do things like figure out where to put the compressor.

So, that's that for now. It's fun to have a clean slate to start off with.

Love this! You are right, its awesome to be able to document the process. I've enjoyed being able to go back and reference different stages of my own projects. You will find a great community here to encourage you along with the ability to provide expert knowledge with a few keystrokes.

The first actual working on cars project will be to get this car back up and running. It's an electrical fault, and I'm very afraid.

Broken W124 on trailer. by krshultz, on Flickr

I forgot to mention that one of the ways I found out about Rust Bullet was right here, on this GJ thread, and on a site called allgaragefloors.com.

Congrats on the house! Looks like a cool garage area.

Your floor looks great. I just got done doing mine and if it weren't for a ton of flakes I'm sure I would have had roller marks, too.

I'll be sure to check back for updates.

Great job! I look forward to seeing more. I really like your boxes and the great idea to use cork. It looks awesome!

I'm curious, I'm about to paint the floor of my three-car garage, how many gallons did you use of RB on that two-car section to get the 2.5 coats?


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Wow, you are lucky to have such a nice claw space ready to go! I love that lab bench, I am going to have to hunt one down for sure!

roadhouse said:

Congrats on the house! Looks like a cool garage area.

Your floor looks great. I just got done doing mine and if it weren't for a ton of flakes I'm sure I would have had roller marks, too.

I'll be sure to check back for updates.

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Thanks! I nearly did flakes. At the old house's garage (which you can barely see the floor of in the pic of the mangled can of paint), I used them. One of the things I didn't like about them is if I dropped a tiny fastener, I couldn't find it.

kjenkins41 said:

Great job! I look forward to seeing more. I really like your boxes and the great idea to use cork. It looks awesome!

I'm curious, I'm about to paint the floor of my three-car garage, how many gallons did you use of RB on that two-car section to get the 2.5 coats?


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Thanks! I looked. I used exactly three gallons. I think a gallon is said to cover 400sf, and this room is 525ish. So basically I kept putting paint on the floor until I emptied the third gallon.

sanatarium said:

Wow, you are lucky to have such a nice claw space ready to go! I love that lab bench, I am going to have to hunt one down for sure!

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Yes I'm darned lucky, and my wife is very forgiving. The lab bench is a great workbench. It's capable of being ESD safe, and has its power built in. I've worked at benches just like it for much of my career, and finding one was the whole reason I went to the surplus area. The Vidmar cabinets were actually an unplanned surprise.

I'll update the thread as I can. We have a one year old daughter, so I tend to work in small, intense bursts of activity.

After putting on a birthday party for our daughter, I needed to unwind a bit, so I went to the garage and did some work on it. The first part was continuing to clean up the Vidmar cabinets. This shows one of the drawer faces, faded around where an ancient sticker had been:


Saturday's alright for cleaning. by krshultz, on Flickr

I've already decided I want to polish the cabinets with my detailing stuff and make them pretty. They're in fine shape, but show their age in some ways. Some polishing compound and a DA buffer fixed this right up:


Saturday's alright for cleaning. by krshultz, on Flickr

The first version of the layout is starting to take shape a little at a time. I'm trying to make use of the void area between the two cabinets. There's the always in the way shop vac, and now the Costco floor jack has moved in next door. This is a great, great jack, I'd recommend it to anyone.


Saturday's alright for cleaning. by krshultz, on Flickr

In that last picture up above, you can barely see this compressor. This is an old Speedaire that I bought over 10 years ago at an estate sale. I took the opportunity to drain it (nothing came out of it), clean it up, and change its oil:


Saturday's alright for cleaning. by krshultz, on Flickr

It's a great compressor. Very quiet. Not sure there was any need to change the oil, the stuff I took out looked just like what I put in. I used a Mityvac fluid extractor to do it, which I also use on the old Mercedes. Same process, the suction tube goes down the dipstick tube and out comes the oil. Clean and easy, although a little slow if the oil being extracted is cold.

I thought I didn't really have a "theme" for my garage, but it seems like everything in here is...old. 1994 Mercedes, eventually the 1999 Miata, and who knows how old the cabinets and lab bench are. The blue cabinet had a 1993 inventory sticker on it, so it's at least that old. And the Speedaire has a build date from sometime in 1997.

House looks great.
Looking forward to what else you are doing.

Glad to see another person try Rust Bullet on their floor. I've decided to use it on my floor as soon as the weather warms a bit here in Tennessee.

Great looking garage!

Reynar: your house and garage look awesome. instead of using those big new Stanley cabinets for just nuts and bolts maybe you can put all the tools inside your old Craftsman cabinets in them. i know several members that have those big cabinets full of their new Snap on or whatever brand quality tools they use.

I think you mentioned showing what you have in the little garage waiting to go inside this 2 car, but i didn't see the pictures. care to share and maybe some members can help you decide where to put everything because 2 car garages fill up quickly especially if you are still trying to park one or two cars in them.

just curious if your wife's broken finger has healed from her helping you move that heavy bench. better yet?

i'll try to stop in and check to see how you are doing, but i'm sure you'll do just fine because i like everything so far.

Wardy said:

Glad to see another person try Rust Bullet on their floor. I've decided to use it on my floor as soon as the weather warms a bit here in Tennessee.

Great looking garage!

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Thanks! I think you'll really like the floor. It's light years beyond the big box store Rusoleum epoxy I put down at the old house, easier to work with too. And if you do something severe enough to damage the paint, you can buy more paint in small amounts, I think as small as half a pint.

Floor looks good, curious to see how it holds up. If the prep for an old floor isn't too intensive I may use it in my garage.

I knew it was only a matter of time before you detailed the cabinets.

Also the 90's is old now? It happened and I'm not sure when...

drivesitfar said:

Reynar: your house and garage look awesome. instead of using those big new Stanley cabinets for just nuts and bolts maybe you can put all the tools inside your old Craftsman cabinets in them. i know several members that have those big cabinets full of their new Snap on or whatever brand quality tools they use.

I think you mentioned showing what you have in the little garage waiting to go inside this 2 car, but i didn't see the pictures. care to share and maybe some members can help you decide where to put everything because 2 car garages fill up quickly especially if you are still trying to park one or two cars in them.

just curious if your wife's broken finger has healed from her helping you move that heavy bench. better yet?

i'll try to stop in and check to see how you are doing, but i'm sure you'll do just fine because i like everything so far.

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Hey there! Yes, I absolutely plan to put the tools from the Craftsman cabinets into the Vidmar cabinets. I've just been agonizing over which drawer to put what in. I'll also be able to put some of the spare car parts in there, especially in "Blue" with its slightly taller drawers. Spare brake rotors, brake pads, all of the myriad spare relays and stuff I've got for the old Mercedes. It'll all go into the cabinets. The stuff which won't fit can just stay in plastic tote bins until I figure out a place to put those bins.

I hadn't taken a picture of the second garage because to be honest, it's a little embarrassing at the moment. It's gotten better though. I don't do a lot of woodworking, so stuff like Skil saws and sawhorses went up in the indoor storage room. Garden and yard stuff like chainsaws, rakes, etc., went under the house. The lawnmower is hiding under the screened porch, and the power washer could probably go in there too. The three bicycles take up a lot of space - I used to hang them from the rafters, but the ceilings in these garages are WAY higher than the old house, so I won't be able to reach them. So maybe some bicycle storage ideas would be good.

The rest of the plastic bins hold detailing supplies, motor oil, grease, fluids, that sort of thing. Once I get the wall cabinets mounted I'll be able to get that stuff out of the way too.

Speaking of the wall cabinets, before I found the bench and the Vidmars, I bought two 30' cabinets and two 36' cabinets, thinking I'd hang them like this:

30 36 36 30

All connected to each other. Now the bench is in the way and I can't put them all in a line on the center of the wall. Seems like it'll look pretty goofy to have it like this

30 36 bench 36 30

But maybe it'll work. In any case, I really need to figure out a way to mount these things.

Thanks for asking about my wife's finger. She's healing up well and is out of the splint.

MattPSC said:

Floor looks good, curious to see how it holds up. If the prep for an old floor isn't too intensive I may use it in my garage.

I knew it was only a matter of time before you detailed the cabinets.

Also the 90's is old now? It happened and I'm not sure when...

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Yeah my wife thinks I'm a total nutjob for wanting to polish tool cabinets.

Reynar: can you post up a few pictures of the cabinets? i'm sure any way you want to hang them will work, but if you are OCD like i am you'll want some symmetrical design.

really happy to hear your wife's finger is almost as good as new (or how it was).

even if you don't get the tools right in the drawers on the first effort you'll figure it out eventually. my guess is to put your sockets and wrenches in drawers that are easiest access and your other tools you reach for the most the next easiest drawers. also the heavy ones towards the bottom.

i can't remember if you said you have kids, but if you do remember that little ones like to put everything in their mouths so keep thinks picked up off the floors and up high or locked up.

good luck and i'll be watching so ask questions if you might have any. also their are bike racks now that use a pulley system to park them on high ceilings. i don't own one, but i'm sure somebody on here has them or maybe google will show you a few ideas.

Reynar: another idea that might work for your high ceilings in your garage is to actually lower the ceiling and make storage up there for Christmas or seldom used things and then hang your bikes from a few hooks off that so you and your family can grab them when you need them.

drivesitfar said:

Reynar: can you post up a few pictures of the cabinets? i'm sure any way you want to hang them will work, but if you are OCD like i am you'll want some symmetrical design.

really happy to hear your wife's finger is almost as good as new (or how it was).

even if you don't get the tools right in the drawers on the first effort you'll figure it out eventually. my guess is to put your sockets and wrenches in drawers that are easiest access and your other tools you reach for the most the next easiest drawers. also the heavy ones towards the bottom.

i can't remember if you said you have kids, but if you do remember that little ones like to put everything in their mouths so keep thinks picked up off the floors and up high or locked up.

good luck and i'll be watching so ask questions if you might have any. also their are bike racks now that use a pulley system to park them on high ceilings. i don't own one, but i'm sure somebody on here has them or maybe google will show you a few ideas.

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This is pretty much the best I can do, it shows three out of the four. I have two of each: two 30" wide, two 36" wide. I wonder about maybe putting them on either side of the lab bench.



And here are some pictures of some of the "stuff" I've got to put away. Pardon the mess - in a lot of ways, the single car garage is in the same state it was just after the movers left.

Two-bike bicycle carrier. It's mounted via trailer hitch and is a little less wide than a compact car when folded up like this. Also visible: the old Craftsman cabinets.



Some power tools that used to live on the shelving which is now in the attic. I think this shows a Dewalt cordless impact, a Dewalt corded sawzall, a Dremel, a cheap cordless drill, and something else that I don't remember. There's also the air tank, which I had been carrying to autocrosses for inflating race tires. I've since bought a Viair portable compressor, which works great and takes up very little space in the trunk of the Miata. So I can probably just sell this tank.



I have LOTS of microfiber detailing towels. These bins are all full of them. They were sitting in a row on the shelving. One bin for drying towels, one bin for wax/polish, and one for "second string" towels that I use on things like engine bays and wheels. There are more towels in a laundry bin, and still more in a plastic bag. I really need to go through them and get rid of the lousy ones, but it'll still be a lot.



Seen here is an ancient Harbor Freight retractable air hose, two brand new brake rotors for my old Mercedes, and my bench grinder. I'd like to mount the grinder to the lab bench, but in such a way that I could remove it when it's not in use.



My two bicycles, a mountain bike, and an "adventure" bike which I have set up for commuting and (paved) greenway use. Since the baby arrived, I haven't ridden either one of them more than about 100 miles total.



A gas power washer. Honestly this thing is kind of crappy - the unloader valve sticks, and the unit itself is old enough now that I'm sure parts are NLA. I should probably just get rid of it, but that feels wrong to me. Maybe this could go under the screened in porch, next to the push mower. Also visible: some plastic Rhino Ramps I use for oil changes on the Miata and on my wife's BMW, neither of which will accept my topsider:



Bins full of chemicals. This includes detailing stuff like cleaners, concentrates, polishes and waxes, as well as some random cans of stuff. Brake cleaner, penetrating oil, the odd bottle of motor oil or ATF, that kind of thing. This stuff is planned to go in the wall cabinets once I have them mounted:

Floor looks awesome! Gotta love a nice sealed floor and some cabinets for organization!

Reynar: even having those cabinets above your nice bench might be a good thing so the little one can't access as easy and store some of your chemicals in them. since they are raw wood are you planning on painting them or staining or just leaving them raw for now?

i'm going with metal commercial racking above some of my benches and i don't really have any good pictures yet, but the racking is like Costco or Home Depot's except i'm buying the 2 and 3 foot wide ones and not the 4 footers to go over the benches. since you have such high ceilings in your garage you might like having some things up there on a shelf 8 or 10 foot high and out of the way.

Some of the stuff from the other garage has been moved into the blue cabinet. Here's some of the Mercedes stuff going into the bottom drawer - brake rotors and other heavy stuff.



An entire plastic tub of spare Mercedes stuff went into the bottom two drawers, with about half a drawer left over for various Miata and BMW bits. Already I'm digging the density of storage these cabinets provide.

Drivesitfar - sorry I missed this for a while. I got busy trying, unsuccessfully, to breathe some life into my old Mercedes. Anyway:

drivesitfar said:

Reynar: even having those cabinets above your nice bench might be a good thing so the little one can't access as easy and store some of your chemicals in them. since they are raw wood are you planning on painting them or staining or just leaving them raw for now?

i'm going with metal commercial racking above some of my benches and i don't really have any good pictures yet, but the racking is like Costco or Home Depot's except i'm buying the 2 and 3 foot wide ones and not the 4 footers to go over the benches. since you have such high ceilings in your garage you might like having some things up there on a shelf 8 or 10 foot high and out of the way.

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I'll do one or the other, stain or paint. I'd kind of like to paint them to match the green tool cabinet. But we're having our deck stained, and I like the look of it a lot. The stairs down into both garages are the same bare wood the deck was made from, as is the railing on the outside steps down to the driveway from the mud room. Might be nice to do the cabinets the same color as all of that stuff.

But, one thing at a time. I really need to just get them mounted onto the wall. That's something I've never done before, so lots of learning to do there.

Don't worry about what drawers the tools go in, you can always rearrange things later. The drawer pulls make it easy to relabel, right? I'm amazed you are putting auto parts in these -- you don't have enough tools! But you've discovered GJ, so we'll be fixing that.

Do not get rid of the portable air tank. It's good to have a portable source. I've even taken an impact gun to the junkyard with mine, for a certain nut or two. I was going to say, somebody might get a flat tire down the street, but yeah, the Viairr is pretty impressive. But what if you need to go somewhere in the house and blow dust of something, or inflate something? I hardly touch my tank since I stopped autoxing and since I got the nice compressor, but still, it's a good thing to have around.

What I'd do with the ol' tank is plumb it to the tank of your current compressor to increase your system volume. And mount them up on a shelf somewhere since they're small and free up some floor space. Use hoses and quick disconnects so the red tank can still be used portably.

Also, yes! Get those bicycles up, up, and away! If you have that much overhead space. You could just use simple pulleys and clothesline, but this is GJ, so we expect you to build a rack out of square aluminum tubing that holds all the bicycles, and bring it up and down with a winch.

Cheap winch!

http://harborfreight.com/automotive-motorcycle/winches/1000-lb-capacity-hand-winch-65688.html

Progress was made this weekend:



The wall cabinets went up. It went pretty quickly, too, once my wife and I had the positioning correct. I put the 36" ones closest to center, with the 30" ones on the outsides. This worked out rather well on the right side as you're looking into the garage. It doesn't look this way in the picture, because there's that wide bit of the room at the far left hand side where the Vidmars live, but the cabinets are centered via the centerline of the garage door.

They're a little higher than I'd like for access to the top shelf - makes it tricky to see stuff in there, since I'm only 5' 9". But the good news is that it keeps this stuff out of curious child hands for a long time. It also lets me move the workbench under them, should I so choose, although I purposely have the bench right in the middle of that wall.

Even with the cabinets spaced wide left-to-right, I can still get full extension on the top drawer of the green Vidmar cabinet:



And of course, I put down more cork floor underlayment in the cabinets:



I later put that far corner down flat - again, short guy, didn't see it until posting the picture here.

I've already emptied six (!) plastic tubs into the wall cabinets and the Vidmars, with loads and loads of room left in each. Other than very large or strangely shaped items, I should be able to store nearly everything off the floor. Which was one of my big goals for this.

Using 2x4s screwed into the wall is a suggestion I got from MattPSC, and it worked great. I'm gonna leave them there, too. I can probably hang some small things from them, and they serve as additional support for the cabinets.

As your attorney I suggest you get a tool cart!

http://www.craftsman.com/craftsman-...p-00959238000P?prdNo=5&blockNo=5&blockType=G5

Of course, do not pay retail. Sales, coupons, or, do like I did, buy a used one at a discount from a Juggalo on ebay.

What about those IKEA ones I've seen on here?

Sure, if you're worried about footprint in a tight garage, those will do, too. As long as you have something. I've got no experience with the HF model, I heard the metal is a little flexy compared to the CMan, but if you don't plan to load it up heavily, it will do, too. I just use mine to keep tools, chemicals, and safety gear close to the job.

You could replace the ledger board with 1x2 and use it to attach a strip of peg board.

Now, about that crawlspace...

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=136064

I almost forgot! I had to buy a new drill, and this is what I got. Seem pretty great.

Drill. by krshultz, on Flickr

They had this as a bare tool for 119, or with two XRP compact batteries and a charger for 129. Since I already have an 18V XRP cordless impact gun, it was an easy choice.

MattPSC said:

You could replace the ledger board with 1x2 and use it to attach a strip of peg board.

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That's not a bad idea. I've never used peg board much - it always seemed like when I removed a tool from it, the hooks often came along for the ride. Maybe I had lousy hooks?

Reynar: they make little plastic pieces to hold the pegs in the pegboard so they won't come out with the tool you remove. there are also little metal clips that hold the pegs in the pegboard so see which ones you like.

your garage is coming along nicely and great job hanging the cabinets.

1/8" hooks in 1/4" pegboard are terrible and fall out constantly. Make sure you get the 1/4" hooks, they won't pop out as much.

Alternatively there are metal pegboards that do not require spacers against the wall. Wall Control is the main one. I'm considering going to those in my garage because it's so humid that the masonite based ones wilt under the weight of what they're holding.

Reynar:
You're just a little too young. You don't remember Amurrica when pegboard was hard and the holes were small and that **** didn't happen. Then... things got crummy. Nobody said, "Hey, sell us crummy pegboard!" but that's what we were given.

Pegboard fittings have since moved upscale to account for that. That's where they getcha!

Reynar:
I was at HF the other day buying cheap Chinese ****, when I spied the 3-shelf tool cart.

http://t.harborfreight.com/material...-in-three-shelf-steel-service-cart-62179.html

Man, I wish my CMan had a middle shelf. Today I had the perverted thought of buying that HF on some kind of super sale, just to get that shelf, scuffing the paint, painting it the proper Cman color, and adding it to my cart.

The paint on the HF one just isn't very nice. I love the paint on my CMan cart. If I had never owned it, I never would have cared, and would roll my eyes at anbody jabbering about such a thing, but, garsh, it's nice paint.

You're a detailing freak and you lived without a cart?!

Have I mentioned I think you need a cart?

Nice looking place and so much potential it's not funny. I would use every square inch of that back wall.

You know, for a smaller garage, you might want to consider a Hazet Assistent.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=119854

Oh, wait, did you want to send the baby to college? Then the HF cart will do...