Speed Changes you, Baja Garage 22'x45'x11+'

92nsx · Jun 19, 2015

Well here we start. This garage is being built to keep my boat out of the elements and along with the sleds. Then
also park the V in there over the winter.

Here is a list what I want and have to work with.
1: As BIG as I can build that the city will allow. (1000 sq ft.)
2: Must fit performance boat up to 38' (44'ish with trailer) to make room for the next boat
3: 10' tall garage door. (performance boats on trailers can get a little over 9' tall
4: budget friendly (i know a few people that work for beer with different traits)
5: Time line of being done by the time snow flys
6: Go boating, not building garage, when the weather is nice

I have the garage drawen on sketchup but dont know how to get photos,so here are cell phone photos.

So the garage will be 22 wide 45 deep (990 sq ft). Double block for 16" tall, then 10'+ wall on top of that. 10x16 garage door, 36" service door.

Long story short, Project we delayed a few months getting all my buddies on the same page and having it not rain up here in minnesota. Its about who you know not what you know :beer:

To start I picked my buddies old time skid steer over to strip off my golf course lawn and feed him beer to play around

This turned into a opps, but a little deeper footing wont hurt. I was looking for a 12" deep footing so thats what I dug out in the front. (back of the shed didnt need it due to the grade). I totally forgot about fill! HAHA :beer:

92nsx · Jun 19, 2015

Time to start the fill. I used crushed concrete

Me talking to the driver

Tiem to get another friend that is pretty dam good on his skid steer to move and level the fill.

Spectators come from all over to watch nad drink my beer

Got dam close to a sprinkler line

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Water it down to help pack it. Also found out 2 - 12 yard truck loads was not enough. 1 more load needed for the back.

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Then we were in rain delay for what seemed like 6 weeks. But another real load of 12 yards was finally able to be delivared

Back to work moving fill and packing with the Cat.

End cost for fill 220 +220 + 346. Call it $800.

92nsx · Jun 19, 2015

Fast forward and another buddie, that is also doing my concrete work, comes over to get the forums up. Again just got the top forums up and the sky opens up and we then covered the fill so it wouldnt get water logged. Plan is to pour in less then a week.....

Well then it rains for about 5 days and I get a call from him " Im pouring tomorrow morning" (friday). I say Chit!!! I still need to run the packer over the fill, get he bottom 2x4's fourms in along with rebar in and remesh down. So It was a balls to the wall project thursday after work. I call a Don the guy with the old school skid steer and asked him to come over and bring Pappy to give a helping hand. I start packing wile there on there way over. (didnt have time to take photos.

Well we got it. The footings ended up being about 18"x18" but hell thicker the better. Hard to see in the photo, but 3 rows of 1/2" reabe is on the "thickened edge. The inspector only wanted 2 but we added another since the footing /thickened edge was 18" vs 12". 2 are on the out side and one where the footing meets the normal 4" thick floor. Plus the remesh sheets. We went threw about 300 ties tieing everything together. The Girlfriend go pretty good with the whirly bird tie thing.

Those who are wondering $400 for rebar, remesh, ties, ect.

92nsx · Jun 19, 2015

Pour day. or NEXT day!! LOL

Done time to have a beer and wait.

Brad back at it. He asked how I wanted the finish, I said I want to be able to squeegee it.

Trucks left a few ruts

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For those of you wondering concrete was a 20 yard order. figured it would take 18.8 with the enlarged footings plus 1 extra yard to be safe. the est was pretty much spot on. The extra yard made a nice small patio out the service door on the garage. Photos to fallow. But I think it is about 9x9 ish. Concrete cost was total of $2450. To the guys for the scab job 800 and free beer.

And yes it cut. 1 down the center and 2 side to side. I wanted 3 side to side so it would make 11'X11' squares but he was already done buy the time I could say anything. But Im sure it will work fine. He used a soft cut machine first then came back the next day with the gas saw to finish up.

92nsx · Jun 19, 2015

Hard to tell in this photo, but concrete is drying and we just got done redoing the sprinkler system. The East side that is 5' off the property line, I installed misters along the slab and removed the 2 normal sprinkler heads that watered that area before.

Then finally. Boat is parked on the slab... Just on time to remove the engine

last time out the 502 developed a bottom end knock. But hell at least I have a hard surface to build a gantry crane to remove the engine since the structure and trusses are not up yet.

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Next is the block. The guy with the Cat skid steer dose masonry. So when he has time that will be next. I told him no hurry since boating season has started.

And wile I was playing construction the GF painted the attached garage. (22 X 22 x 9'6" tall) The idea and colors came from Porsche Garage here on GJ. My garage is disaster zone tho with Baja garage under way, and boat engine rebuild and what ever else.

Next project is to cut a hole in the wall for a 220 volt window shaker under the air compressors. Yes it is heated at 74 all winter long.

Lx460 · Jun 19, 2015

Hopefully you don't slip on the smooth slab and impale yourself on a piece of rebar. Maybe put some caps on them if you're going to be working out there for a while...

92nsx · Jun 19, 2015

Lx460 said:
Hopefully you don't slip on the smooth slab and impale yourself on a piece of rebar. Maybe put some caps on them if you're going to be working out there for a while...

Thought of that / work in progress. Kenny thought he would be over in no time to lay down the block but haven't had time yet. Its on the to do list to just wrap the top with duct tape so at least the burr dosent cut one open. Falling that would be a different story..

Actually the concrete isn't that slick even when wet. Nothing like the epoxy floor in the attached garage and it squeegees of great! (ya I had to try it earlier this week)

cabin fever · Jun 19, 2015

As another guy who built his garage to accommodate his boat (Velocity 280) If I can make a recommendation.

Where ever you plan to keep the boat, make sure you have a outlet directly over the cockpit. Or even better, what I did was by a wall mounted vacuum that I can basically reach from the cockpit to clean with. The ceiling mounted outlet is nice for working in the bilge too.

Good luck, looks nice so far.

madoc1 · Jun 20, 2015

looking good. you sure have a nice neighbor, in that he let you mess up his lawn with the trucks. or does he just like you beer? I sure would cover those rebar daggers soon. good luck. what happened to the 502? was that it in one of the last pic?

jim

92nsx · Jun 22, 2015

Ya the neighbor is cool. Actually he don't even drink!!! LOL. The ruts were just going to fill in with some black dirt and grass seed.

The 502 is still in the boat. I hammered a bearing the last time out.

. Knock, knock, knock and the oil filter is full of brass. I still haven't pull the engine yet. Actually just made a gantry crane yesterday to reach over the boat, since I don't have any trusses yet to pull the engine out.

The engine in the last photo's is my back up engine. It's the same 502 mag EFI, that I bought for the "just in case.... " that I have in the Baja. I'm just going threw it quick before I swap them. Plus I'm using my heads since they were just rebuilt a few hours ago.

Once the crane is in pace Ill tie the legs together on the bottom to prevent them form wanting to do the splits wile hoisting the BBC up.

shadyluke · Jun 22, 2015

Did you put a vapor barrier down?

92nsx · Jun 22, 2015

shadyluke said:
Did you put a vapor barrier down?

Nope.

sunsation288 · Jun 22, 2015

subscribed , don't forget to add picture

we love picture here !

92nsx · Jun 22, 2015

sunsation288 said:
subscribed , don't forget to add picture we love picture here !

Lots of photos will be included. Its like a Supra build. Is your 288 sunny open or closed? Maybe in the end we'll meet more go fast guy's

gearlube · Jun 22, 2015

Can't wait to see more!!

92nsx · Jun 29, 2015

Well nothing more happening to the Garage, but was able to get out for the poker run this passed weekend.

Ugh. Got a noise ticket, but moma still has a smile on!

Nor-Tech also got a ticket along with a dozen or more other guys

Bib Overalls · Jun 29, 2015

More pictures of your girlfriend please.

Jyzze · Jun 30, 2015

Noise ticket.. you Are public enemy No 1...

92nsx · Jun 30, 2015

Let me dig threw my photobucket for what I have for photo's

Definitely! All performance / go fast boats are public enemy No 1.................. :shocking:

rattle_snake · Jun 30, 2015

Interesting title, I'm building another garage to store my Baja in as well. Going 40' deep just in case/when I get a bigger better faster money pit.

Noise tickets? glad there is none of that bs here in AZ.

MattVette89 · Jun 30, 2015

Very nice so far! And I like the color scheme in the attached garage.

92nsx · Mar 22, 2016

Well Guys framing season is here. First to get everything up to speed, then a couple questions.

Late last year we were able to finish up the 2 course high block. Then I took a road trip 16 hours one way and bought a new to me 33' Outlaw just before turkey day. Next the weather set in so I let the project sit for the season.

You can see in the back ground I just put my garden shed back onto the slab for the winter time, for lawn tractor storage.

Last weekend we core filled the block and got the anchor bolts set into place. So the next couple weekends we are planning on framing up the walls. I plan on framing them on the ground then lifting them into place. I have talked to the lumber yard and he will drop off the lumber how ever I would like it . For storage reasons I was planning on having them drop off the sticks first to frame the walls. Then once walls are framed, drop off the rest of the sheathing, trusses, wrap, windows, ect..

A couple questions.. Remember these walls are 10'3" without the second top cap, that go on top of the 16" tall block wall. (total ceiling height when double top cap is on will be 11' 8 1/2" on the inside

) Walls are 2x4 construction with a 2x6 bottom plate.

The 45' long wall I haven't figured out 100% of what I am going to do yet due to the weight. Frame it in sections, and lift 1 section at a time, then sheath it. Frame in sections, sheath, then lift. Or frame entire wall, lift and then sheath? The problem I see is lifting the wall straight up 16" onto the block once it is stood up.

Sheath all the wall on the ground (heavy lifting might need more man power), just put on the first row of sheathing to keep wall straight during the lift, then finish once walls are up or sheath everything once the walls are up?

Post some pics / stories of what you guys have done in the passed.

85mcss · Mar 23, 2016

Awesome garage build and congrats on the new boat!! Any chance it has the 4-man bolsters?

I grew up in a 29 Outlaw. Boat is still in the family and has 1300 hours on the stock 454Mags. I'm a Cigarette guy now but I'll always remember where the passion started! :beer:

Looking forward to seeing how this build turns out!

92nsx · Mar 24, 2016

85mcss said:
Awesome garage build and congrats on the new boat!! Any chance it has the 4-man bolsters?

I grew up in a 29 Outlaw. Boat is still in the family and has 1300 hours on the stock 454Mags. I'm a Cigarette guy now but I'll always remember where the passion started!

Looking forward to seeing how this build turns out!

Thank you! Cigs are bad *** man. Hopefully some day Ill have one.

No 4 man bolster here. Im not a big fan of them. I have the dance floor

How ever I do have the 3 man rear bench. Not to many 33's out there with it. :beer:

TLCObsession · Mar 24, 2016

Frame the long walls in sections with some sheeting to keep them square.

Why not 2 x 6 walls so you can insulate better?

92nsx · Mar 25, 2016

6" is double the cost of 4". Weight of lifting walls, header spacing and I already have my plans approved for 2x4. 2x6 I would have to re submit.

If I feel the need for r-19 ( witch is also double the cost of r-13) I can add a furring strip once inspected.

TLCObsession · Mar 25, 2016

92nsx said:
6" is double the cost of 4". Weight of lifting walls, header spacing and I already have my plans approved for 2x4. 2x6 I would have to re submit.

If I feel the need for r-19 ( witch is also double the cost of r-13) I can add a furring strip once inspected.

Crazy - around here it $1 more for a 2 x 6 so for your entire structure it probably would be a $100 differential including top and bottom plates.

MikeinNorthWales · Mar 25, 2016

How about this- build the wall, lift the bottom plate up onto the block wall, then stand it up. You won't have to lift it once it's standing. You can sheath it first if you want but that will be alot of weight. You could nail temp bracing diagonally to stabilize it for the lift. Or just the first run of sheathing, as you said.

smedly · Mar 26, 2016

92nsx said:

Moonlight bay?
My parents have a place on Cross.

92nsx · Mar 28, 2016

TLCObsession said:
Crazy - around here it $1 more for a 2 x 6 so for your entire structure it probably would be a $100 differential including top and bottom plates.

Ill have to ask my lumber yard again on the price. But again lifting the wall comes into play. 2x4 will be heavy enough, umm... Also the service door is harder to find. For a standard door (2x4 wall) there is a couple hundred to choose from. 2x6 there is 2 doors. But yes I hear what you are saying.

MikeinNorthWales said:
How about this- build the wall, lift the bottom plate up onto the block wall, then stand it up. You won't have to lift it once it's standing. You can sheath it first if you want but that will be alot of weight. You could nail temp bracing diagonally to stabilize it for the lift. Or just the first run of sheathing, as you said.

I didn,t think of just lifting the bottom plate onto the block!. That might work. Thank you.

smedly said:
Moonlight bay?
My parents have a place on Cross.

Yep, Thats Moonlite. Those photos were from the poker/fun run 2015. Real fun.... NOT! DNR was handing out exhaust tickets in the channel to/from Rush to Lower whitefish. About 20-25 of us got tickets that weekend. We haven't been back since. Ill take my money else ware

92nsx · Apr 6, 2016

First, time to get estimates on lumber. In the end I went with Simpsons lumber, from recriminations. Well I was not pleased 1 bit with there lumber, more like pissed with there lumber. I don't know how I got such **** lumber, or they pulled a fast one on me. But the 2x4 were all split, chewed up, bark, 1" holes in them. all 3 guys i talked to that use them on a regular were scratching there head, and said no way this is there lumber. The one old timer said reject the load and make them re deliver it. Well too late for that it was already dropped off.

Literally these would have been the **** I threw to the side if I were framing a house back in the day. They bundled it up and sold it to me!!! Ya I called and bitched and got the answer of sorry for the inconveniences, leave the bad ones to the side and we will fully refund you on those. .... Um to late I'm framing tomorrow morning and I don't have time to run out and buy replacements wile i throw the junk aside.

Also order 7 48"x36" Low E windows from them with the lumber/truss order. So far the windows are the only good looking things to come out of them

I had them drop off the roof sheathing and windows in the garage so they stay out of the weather till install time comes. ( Ummmm.. I spy 2 complete 502 mag intake manifold assemblies in the back round)

Also we had to move the garden shed off the slab from winter storage spot. Use the skid steer and lift it up on the snowmobile trailer. Let just say when we move it again, Ill remove the **** from inside of it.

OSHA approved counter weights ?

92nsx · Apr 6, 2016

Framing day. Not much to talk about besides, measure twice cut once, nail wood together, lift wall in place. Then after you get it all done grab the saz-all and cut out what we messed up on.

But by the time the 3rd wall went up we finally did it correct. HAHA. Na it wasn't that bad, I Just messed up the first 2 window openings. At least we cough it then and not at the end.

Silly seal, opps forgot it on the first (back) wall. But its all good. It's not required I just did it so i knew it was there.

In a different thread some one was asking or saying something about not having treated lumber for the bottom sill (the 2x6). It is tag off it. This new treated is not as green in color like the old stuff. I'm sure some one had **** hurt over the old stuff so they had to change it. Here is the tag I grab off one last night

It was cold at 7 am Sat. so it was ok that the guys were late because I didn't want to even go out there.

By the end of the day 3 walls were framed. We chewed threw the 2x4's and with so many being junk I knew we would be short any ways. Just make a lumber run in the morning.

92nsx · Apr 6, 2016

Opps I got out of order a little . But

Next step was to core fill the block and set in place the anchor bolts so every thing is ties together. Monolithic slab to block via 1/2 re-bar, and the block to the wall via anchor bolts. Code / inspector wanted them a max of every 6 foot. I went every 4 foot, over kill but I'm here and it won't hurt anything. I have heard stories about people running or backing a car into their garage and pushed the garage off the block/foundation. So every 4 foot it is

This we whipped out on a weekend morning. We carted 1/2 full 5 gal buckets of water from the house to outside and mixed up the mud. Out side water is still off due to freezing concerns. Also to aid in reinforcement, the corners and door openings in the block were core filled back a couple block in those areas. Way over kill but hell I'm here so might as well. For this once again it's over the Kenny's shed to barrow the power hand mixer. (Think of it like a high torque, two handed drill) This was a huge time savor and doesn't splash out as much mud out of the bucket as the one I have.

Let these sit and dry in place until farming time.

Word of wisdom wile setting these bolts. Make sure you set them high enough out of the block....... 2 - 2 1/2" works good. Remember the sill will be a min of 1 1/2" high. Also before there in there rock hard go back and double check they didn't sink. Because it they sink or settle wile drying this is you :frustration: when walls are placed on top of them and the bolt doesn't stick threw the sill plate.

You will notice a different truck also doing the work now vs the Esky. I bought another truck for pulling and the HD work. We call it farm truck. 1 ton DRW, Turbo diesel.

Rossco · Apr 6, 2016

Nice shop (Gonna be)

Nice Boat.

Nice weather.

Nice neighbours.

GLTHFJ60 · Apr 6, 2016

Awesome setup!!

duwem · Apr 6, 2016

Looking good, I was just looking at another thread yesterday where someone got a bundle of lumber and the ends were all cracked and junk. I'm the guy that spend 15 minutes going through the whole pile at Menards to find 4 nice ones, guess the bundle has those 4, but also the 300 **** ones I toss to the side....

rattle_snake · Apr 6, 2016

I'll throw out this teaser pic to help motivate!

I'm getting close to having the building complete, it's almost NOT framing season anymore (almost 100* today).
:beer:

92nsx · Apr 7, 2016

Well this brings us to Sunday. Todays list is to fix the 2 messed up window openings, get front wall and header board up, and sheath. Like always measure twice, do the math twice, Mike and I come up with the same number. Send Garage door header board home. Then grab saz-all and cut the nails once finished. :tantrum2:

. Oops we both subtracted for the 2x12 when we didn't need to. So the opening was for a 9' tall door. We cut every thing back out and did it right the second time. 9' door would have worked, but i have my mind made up on 10' tall door. I have the room so its going in.

Roof trusses should be here Thurs or Friday of this week.

Lunch/ pizza break at 1.

End of day

92nsx · Apr 7, 2016

A key eye will see where we got in a hurry. I ran the sheathing on the back wall all the way up. Opps. I will take a couple of the top sheathing panels down so I can tie in the end truss into the walls with sheathing.

cjbarbour19 · Apr 7, 2016

looks great! i built my hole garage around my fountain but sold it last season and now have a huge shop boatless lol

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