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A Garage Rehabbed

This building has been a lot of different things since 1945. It was the first residence on the property. The owner built this and lived in it with his wife while they built their home. It was a very basic place. Water came from a creek and drained out the wall and onto the dirt. No bathroom, they used an outhouse.

Over the years it got one electrical circuit. It had 3 light bulbs and 3 outlets. I used it that way for a couple years. While it was hardly ideal, I probably only popped the 15a breaker (which was also shared with the kitchen) a handful of times.

The way I was using it just didn’t work for me. Here’s the way it looked on a clean day.

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That was not often.

It was a place that was doing too many things. I used it as storage, which got in the way of tools and machinery. I used it for working on projects, which created mess and a juggling/tightrope act that always frustrated me. A lot of times it was an overflow area for home projects. Tools/materials would get put in an empty spot as I continued on with the project. But, when I needed something in the garage it was a task getting to whatever I needed.

I dreamed of making it a shop but I didn’t do anything to make it work as one. I was woken from that dream, continually, every time I tripped over something, stubbed a toe, whacked my shin, tore a pant leg, got grease on some part or me or my clothes or spent way too much time looking for something. I was my own worst enemy.

Over the years as I completely remodeled my home, landscaping, had two children, and did a lot of work for other folks the garage project evolved in my mind. Every summer I take on one larger home project and this year I scratched the plan for a pergola and patio area to get the shop done.
And here it is… well underway (June 10, 2016 start day).

The plan:

The plan wasn’t much different than a lot of other projects I’ve accomplished over the years. Take something old, worn out, and rejuvenating it.
My planned improvements were:

- replace the ceiling with floor joists that were up to walking and storing items.
- Upgrade electrical with a 100a subpanel
- Remove everything that’s not a tool or shop specific – no more storage
- Insulate
- Install a compressor and run air lines
- New man door and deal with the old windows
- Free up floor space with a more appropriate sized work bench and equipment layout
- Create a comfortable space that’s comfortable, yet industrial.
o Use reclaimed materials whenever possible
- LED lighting, lots of it
- Outlets, lots of them
- Everything else – that where you get nickel-and-dimed and spend the most time.

The project couldn’t begin without emptying out the garage of stuff that didn’t belong in a shop. That in itself was a big project. I’ve had a storage condo nearly the whole time I’ve owned this place but for some dumb reason I didn’t utilize that place very well.

Here’s some of what I was dealing with:

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Can’t walk between the boxes and the Sami. This was something I wanted to change. In the future, my goal was to keep this wall blank.

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A pic that describes how I was my own worst enemy, it was so frustrating.

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This was AFTER I had removed 2 cantilever racks and 2 hot rod projects. There was still a ton of stuff up in the loft area.

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Seriously, how could anything get accomplished here?
 
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This area really wasn’t useable. Also, take a look at the ceiling “joists.”
I recently read something around here that stuck with me, “It takes some work to get to the easy part.” And nothing better could sum up how I feel about this garage/shop remodel.

In realizing this project was going to take me the majority of the summer (spoiler alert, I’m not done yet and summer is over :D) I decided to do the right thing and knock out a big ole house to-do list before really digging in. It took ten days to earn that check mark. I have another list brewing (kids wear out everything!)

After that, I tore into it.

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A ton of stuff came out, for good. The tools and cars came out temporarily, which definitely slows a project down needing to move stuff in and out.
Organizing my off-site storage was important. It’s nice to be able to walk in, grab something, and leave. This pic is during the organization. As you can see, I had to hang a 32 frame from the ceiling because it took too much space anywhere else. That was a fun solo job:eyecrazy:. Just an aside, pretty much everything I do, is solo.

That is, unless I know hiring a job out makes sense. So far this project (blocking up the windows) and the electrical panel are the only two things I farmed out. I did hire a day laborer one weekend but that turned out to be a nightmare. That’s a story for another day.

I pulled the windows and picked up the materials.

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See the old faucet? The cast iron sink was still in place when I first occupied the garage.

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I found this guy through a local ad and he was really an awesome dude. He and his son did the work. They did a bunch of pointing on our house, too, which was much needed.








 
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I only left one window opening. I figured since the other two walls would be occupied with toolboxes or equipment, it made little sense to keep windows.





With this opening I chose to increase the size. I had the sill made at a custom precast place, in town. Certainly, one of the benefits of living in Salt Lake City is the access to all sorts of building and industrial businesses. I went to this place on my way to work, probably a 10 minute detour on my commute. I couldn’t have done that in too many other places I’ve lived.

The window took about 6 weeks to come in… so as annoying as keeping a sheet of plywood leaned up, as well as the knowledge of little-to-no security. I left it and carried on.
 
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I'm going to figure out wtf is going on with these pics and then continue on.
 

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Brent: since i really like you and your attitude and contributions to GJ I'm grabbing a chair and watching the magic happen in your garage. also interesting that your garage is made out of cement block because my entire house has that for all the exterior and a lot of the interior walls.

got to run, but wanted to mark the thread and give you my support and best wishes on your adventure.

thanks for starting a thread and i bet you'd like to see one or all of those project cars done some day too.
 
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Brent: since i really like you and your attitude and contributions to GJ I'm grabbing a chair and watching the magic happen in your garage. also interesting that your garage is made out of cement block because my entire house has that for all the exterior and a lot of the interior walls.

got to run, but wanted to mark the thread and give you my support and best wishes on your adventure.

thanks for starting a thread and i bet you'd like to see one or all of those project cars done some day too.

Thank you! And, yes, 2017 is the year I get some car projects done.
 
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That same weekend we got the windows filled in, I tore down this wall. I assume the only reason it was left there after converting the building into a garage (from living quarters) was because it had switch wiring in it. When I saw that it had no attachment to the ceiling other than some nails into the sheathing I didn’t even wait to move some tools before hulk-smashing this wall down. It felt wonderful even if I almost landed on my rear a time or two. Haha.



The 60+ years of dust was pretty nasty stuff.

With each pull down of the ceiling material the dust would pour onto me and the floor. I had to dive in and go for it and get it over with. Usually demo is fun... not that stuff, though.





At some point someone got safety conscious, haha.



The 2x4s spanned about 12-1/2', as well, they were placed randomly. So, walking up there wasn't all that safe. That didn't stop me though. Nor did it stop me from keeping a bunch of stuff up there. I never said I was smart. :lol:
 
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Here’s half the 2x4s pulled down. If I come across a pic of the whole area bare, I’ll post it. During the renovation I dropped a phone and damaged it. It had all the build pics. I had the phone repaired but may have not gotten all the pics off, yet. I’ll check.



Anyway, once most of the ceiling joists were down (save for this one pictured because it supported the garage door) I put up the joist brackets. I hammered one of them in, it took me a half hour, at least, and my arm was dead. The beam was so dang hard that I struggled to drive in nails. Frustrated, I went to Home Depot and bought a pneumatic palm nailer… or what I like to call them – the best tool I ever! That sucker drove in all these nails nearly in the time it took me to get one bracket in with a hammer.



Here’s the pic of everything gone. That beam is interesting. Originally it was built with just the lower. When they converted it to a garage, which was the plan all along, the added this other beam, bolted and shimmed as you see. The trick, for me was getting them square again, since they had rolled a bit due to the load bearing wall oppoite of the garage door end was narrower than the beam it supported. It took some MacGyvering but I got it handled.
After that, the new joists went fast. After running calcs, it was obvious that if I ran 2x8s I had to run them 12” on center. The span was just a tad too long for 16” centers. It ended up being like 5 more, or so. No biggie.





I left the opening for attic stairs. One of the better upgrades to the shop, I’ll admit.

This side of the shop is going to be open (no attic above it) but I wanted to put shelves at each end for displaying items more than for storage.

 
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Attic door rough opening.



It was at this point that I had a pile of lumber to get up into the attic space and I didn’t want to do it alone. I was making good progress for being a couple days into the project and I figured I’d see if there was a day laborer or two over at Home Depot that wanted to help put some lumber up in the attic and make a couple bucks. Now, I should preface that the only skills you need to posess in this job are to be able to walk upright and carry something. I wasn’t looking for Bob Vila. So, all that said, I figured it would be worth the money.

Many of us have seen the crowd of guys curbside, looking for work. It might not happen at a big box store near you but it’s not uncommon out here. I picked up a guy to help once, a few years back, so I figured it would be the same, now.

I pulled into the lot at about 1:30 pm and was swarmed, I said I needed two - and three guys got into the truck. One man saying he'd take any work for any pay - great you’re hired. The other two commenced haggling. I told them I didn't have enough work for three men. "Two guys, three hours and I'd pay ten cash to move some lumber into the attic" and that it was easily accessible. Easy, quick money, I figured.

"No, you get us two, he goes."

"If 3 guys, 8 bucks an hour each, sorry."

"10 dollars, no way, we get $20 each an hour."

"I'm not paying that to carry lumber... some plywood and 2-bys and to push a broom. I'll pay a neighbor kid, instead."

The two hagglers spoke to each other about the word "lumber" and shot me some expletives as they hopped out of the truck. I had the one young guy hop in front with me and we went over to the other side of the lot where some others were standing.

Two come over and I say I need one and tell them the rate and task.

"We get $15-25 for that."

"For both of you?" (Joking)

"No! Don't be cheap."

"Sorry, fellas we'll work with just this one guy."

An extra connotation (hand jesture, maybe what he was going to do with his free time...) was added by the short, stocky silent guy in the pair. It capped off the moment, completely.

All that said, 5.5 hours netted him $55 and some dinner at O' Falafel (where the owner knew the kid's whole family and he promptly chewed him out for being a lazy such-and-such... :lol:) with a day's more work the next day. I gave him a bunch of scrap metal, too. But bless him for pulling the copper out of some of that old tar-fabric-covered wiring.





 

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Brent,
THIS IS HANDS DOWN, MY NEW FAVORITE THREAD ON GJ!!!!!

I've only savored half of it, and so far I've laughed, I've cried and I see myself in it.

And I see hope in it too.

Your difficulties are many of our difficulties. Your solutions apply not just to you.

I will be watching with great interest.

And you've given me renewed incentive to begin again, which is the only way forward, to keep beginning again.

Bill
 
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Brent,
THIS IS HANDS DOWN, MY NEW FAVORITE THREAD ON GJ!!!!!

I've only savored half of it, and so far I've laughed, I've cried and I see myself in it.

And I see hope in it too.

Your difficulties are many of our difficulties. Your solutions apply not just to you.

I will be watching with great interest.

And you've given me renewed incentive to begin again, which is the only way forward, to keep beginning again.

Bill

Haha, glad to help Bill. Thanks.
 
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The next day was a head-scratcher. Here I am looking forward to having an extra set of hands and my guy is not on site, yet. He strolls in after being “lost” for an hour even though he had my address, we live in a grid system, he had my number, etc. Haha.

I figured I'll have him mow the lawn since it had been neglected with all the home projects getting done and such. He was excited to do it as he told me he worked for a landscaper. A lot of the day labor guys do (that and roofing labor) so I figured what harm could he do.

Turns out, not too much. After I showed him how the mower worked (a 32” commercial mower) he walked around the lawn happy as a lark. About 20 minutes into it, with my compressor shutting down, I hear him “mowing” and it doesn’t sound right.

So, down the ladder I go and stop him out in the yard and sure enough, he’d just been walking around the yard with the blades off. Okay, I try not to be judgmental while I’m thinking, “Man, I told you step-by-step how to fire this thing up, you go to your car to get gloves and forget maybe the most important step in the lawn mowing process?” So, from there I figure I just have to do better at instructing him in the future.

The lawn usually takes an hour if it’s cut twice. He walked the lawn for nearly two. I kept thinking, “I’ll get him in ten more minutes, he’s got to be nearly done.” I did that a few too many times. Finally he came to me saying he needed to take his father to WalMart and he’d be back to finish the lawn. … Wait, what? He says, “I won’t ask you to pay me now.” And I’m doing all I can not to roll my eyes into the back of my head in bewilderment.

I walk out to check the lawn and my wife has this grin on her face as she is about to be entertained by my reaction as she walks out front with me. I can’t really explain what I saw out there other than that young man never operated a lawn mower in his life. This lawn was proof.

The worst part is… I let him come back and finish. More than anything I was curious just how he was going to pull this off and it probably meant I might have to replace my trimmer because he ran it full throttle for twenty minutes without string… haha. No joke. I was in the garage telling myself this experiment is going to cost me.

I taught him how to change the string, a couple times, but it never stuck. He liked running that thing without it. Eventually I called it “good” and had him clean up some construction trash and call it a day.

I should have taken a pic of that lawn...
 
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Progress is looking good so far Brent. Keep up the good work.


So, down the ladder I go and stop him out in the yard and sure enough, he’d just been walking around the yard with the blades off.

Wow, just wow! :lol_hitti :shocking: :eyecrazy:

How old was this dude? The reason I don't cut grass now is I did it enough from years 8-18 to last me a lifetime, but my at least my Dad didn't have to tell me the blades needed to be spinning to actually cut the grass!
 
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Progress is looking good so far Brent. Keep up the good work.




Wow, just wow! :lol_hitti :shocking: :eyecrazy:

How old was this dude? The reason I don't cut grass now is I did it enough from years 8-18 to last me a lifetime, but my at least my Dad didn't have to tell me the blades needed to be spinning to actually cut the grass!

Thanks, Larry! He was early 30s, maybe just 30. It's funny you mention being 8 and mowing laws because I have a young kid I usually hire to mow the lawn when we go on vacation. I come back and it's perfect. He's in middle school.

I try not to be overly judgemental. My parents worked me hard as a kid and because of that I learned how to do things and took things on (other jobs and such) that help me to this day. Some folks don't have that type of life. So, in a way I felt kind-of bad for him. It's a pretty drastic reality for a lot of folks, so I hear from buddies in the trades.
 
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For the first time since I moved into this little garage I could see this wall. The boxes were moved to their new home along the other wall, under the shelf. I realize this seems a bit out of order, because it is.





It was quick going up and already felt bigger but man, at this point I felt pretty overwhelmed. You see that pile of wood. That’s probably 30 pallets broken down. The upper walls will be all aged pallet wood. I spent a few days after work breaking down pallets. I got pretty good at it, too, up until I had enough. I still have some stacked up that need to be broken down.



Again, another pic out of order. I was contemplating layout a bunch.



It was neat to see these in there with a little bit of room. Still, a long way to go.

I’m one of those people that needs to stop and stare a minute to figure some things out. When it comes to my own projects, that aren’t defined like paid jobs, I tend to contemplate longer. As I was cleaning up I saw the car sitting there with decent lighting and I thought I won’t have lighting like this for much longer, I’ll snap a couple pics.



 
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The plan from here is to move up all the collar ties. As well, I decided to run a tie at every rafter. It wasn't needed but it will help with finishing off the attic.



After they got moved up, I knocked out framing of this wall. It was hot as hell up there the whole time. By this point I wanted to toss my compressor out into the highway, discus style. That thing is so dang loud, even with earplugs.

The thing about this wall is that I spent a couple hours just getting marks and measurements set to get things square. You can put a level on that wall, now and the sucker is plumb level and pretty darn close corner to corner. It took a lot more work than I'm used to. Every single stud is a different length due to that top support beam.

Here you can start to see what I was aiming for. This isn't going to be a spot of a lift or anything, it's really too narrow for that. It does make the shop feel larger, though.

I got a bunch of old corrugated steel roofing stripped from a barn. That's going to be the ceiling material. Aged pallet wood will go on the two end walls and the center wall. But that's all daydream stuff, at this point.
 
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Brent,

It's funny.

Looking at your photos, I can't see how you fit all that stuff in that garage. It sure doesn't look like it would all fit back in.

Same deal here.

I keep taking things out, but it still seems to fill up while I'm sleeping.

The plans you have for metal and pallet finishes are cool. Rustic and industrial mixed. Not what I would do, but still very interesting. And I like your structural remedies.

Signing out for now. Gotta go look at mine again, and decide what else I can remove.

Bill
 
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Lookin good man. I love reclamation projects like this.

Thank you. For me, I love making something out of, not necessarily nothing, but stuff most likely people don't give a second look at. I've always been able to see potential in things. That's partially what got me loaded up with all these projects.

Brent,

It's funny.

Looking at your photos, I can't see how you fit all that stuff in that garage. It sure doesn't look like it would all fit back in.

Same deal here.

I keep taking things out, but it still seems to fill up while I'm sleeping.

The plans you have for metal and pallet finishes are cool. Rustic and industrial mixed. Not what I would do, but still very interesting. And I like your structural remedies.

Signing out for now. Gotta go look at mine again, and decide what else I can remove.

Bill

Thanks. And, I wouldn't ever want to fit it all back in. I think about a lot of shops that I have been in and the ones I liked most weren't warehousing things.

I actually have a place to warehouse all the project parts and such so utilizing it made more sense.

From now on if a part is in the work space, it's due to be installed into the car or whatever.

As far as how it's going to be finished out, a lot of it came down to cost. I really dig corrugated galvanized but not shiny galv. So, later on in this thread I'll show how I knocked down the gloss and such.

While I really love sanitary, modern spaces, it's just not what I want to work in. I want something with a little more soul and texture. I want people to be looking at the details and every time they come back they see something they didn't notice before. As well, I've never worked with reclaimed materials before. And while it's really more pocket-friendly, I'm also interested in taking it on and giving it my approach.

All that said, I have chosen not to paint the walls. The more I work in there, the more the raw and rough walls appeal to the design of the shop. There will be plenty of color with signs and such so the walls staying how they are makes sense to me.
 
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A little bit of a sidetrack…

Part of reinventing myself or, that is, “rehabbing” my bad habits was to not take on any more projects. I have enough to keep me busy for a while - like a couple years. That includes not taking in any of my usual machinery or vintage Ford parts to flip. Although that’s the stuff that’s paid for most of what I have and a bunch of the materials to do this project, I don’t want any more distractions. That said, I’ve had a few justifiable failures.

First, I had been on the lookout for a door or a set of narrow doors to build a sliding barn door shutter for that one and only window in the shop. I didn’t want to pay much and I wanted to keep the work minimal. Ideally, a solid slab door would’ve been great but I struck out here and there and didn’t look all that much after a while. And, just like that, these wardrobe doors show up.









They’re old mortise and tenon doors from England, I believe, as I bought them from a guy that imports antiques into Utah. He is downsizing his business and I was there at the right time. We haggled a bit and I left happy. But boy did they need work. There was quite a few layers of old paint and then varnish of some sort. That’s the stuff I needed a pro to remove.



I brought them to “The Stripper” which is THE place (maybe the only place) to get wood stripped around here. I’ve used them in the past and always with great results. When I got the quote of $400 the wind was taken from my sails. There’s no way I was going to spend that.

Instead, I spent a few nights with my heat gun and a scraper and some delish fumes. I’ve got a few less, weaker brain cells for it but I saved a couple hundred bucks.



This is from one side of one door, probably 3 or 4 pounds of paint. That old lead stuff is serious.



This is my first side. I had to learn how the stuff would come off easiest. There was certainly a reason for the $400 quote. But, now bringing it back would cost me less.



This is the stuff I like to see.



My skills are getting better.



So much material.









And finally, one of the doors raw.



I burned them in a couple areas, as you can tell. They need a little TLC but I am not going to over fix them. They’re going to get a finish that shows the wood. No paint. I’m not sure exactly what color or materials I am going to use.
 
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Next was this work cart. You know, if you don’t want to acquire new projects DO NOT go to a constructions company’s estate sale. Now I know. :D









Joking aside, I knew that in reducing a lot of storage in the workspace area I was going to need something for paint cans, chemicals, caulk tubes and the like. So I kept an eye peeled and this came my way. I picked it up and put it aside until I had enough stuff to bring to the sand blasters.

















Lots of dings like this. Easy, noisy, fun stuff.

I knocked out some dents one day while I was watching the kids play in the yard. And, later when I had little time in the garage, here and there I’d work on it a little more. Eventually, I took a few hours and finished it and put it right to use.

One day I took the time to hit it with primer. I used a can of that epoxy primer stuff, expensive but I love working with it and usually keep a couple cans around. After it was dry I hit it with whatever I had left of regular spraybomb primer since I didn’t get the whole thing coated with the epoxy.
When it came back from blasting it knocked a bad weld free from the back part of sheet metal. If pressed on, it would oil-can. So, a couple welds were dropped in before it was finished.



Back on its wheels and getting painted.





The first machine gray color was too dark. I opted for some Rustoleum, thinned it and rolled it on. I put a few coats on, wetsanding in between.
I drilled the cabinet through the holes in the hinges so that I could put some machine screws through, to give the appearance that they were mounted. It just looked weird to me the way it was.

After that I went into my collection of handles and knobs (everyone has a collection as such, right) and tossed on some Model A Ford door handles.



Here’s a closer pic I snapped before the last coat of paint was dry and smooth. I had just touched it up with the roller. I’m the type of person that always touches tacky paint, I don’t know why… I know it’s tacky! I am going to put a set on the sliding shutters when they’re done, too. I just love these handles.

And, completed.

 
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The last “project” was actually a necessity that I purchase earlier rather than later. Also, this Quincy QT-5 is also one of the compressors I’ve always wanted. As I said, I would have loved to do one of those awesome spinning hammer throws those track and field guys do with my old one. I’m pretty sure that even though it is likely heavier than those balls I could set a world record with it. Instead my friend has it, am I a bad person for that? Haha.
I drove way out and picked it up. It has had its share of issues but I think most are worked through. One thing I did, stupidly, was overfilled the oil because I check the amount online and it was for the newer models. Which I didn’t know until I overfilled and used it. Now I have oil in my lines. It seems to not have effected it otherwise. Fingers crossed.



When you drive two hours, in Utah, you have gotten somewhere. Well, really it’s the middle of nowhere but you’re pretty far from where you started. Can’t say that about I95 or I405!



Here she is, the little con-artist. Turns out that mag starter is empty and it had been running off the pressure switch. Shame on me, I should have checked.

I unloaded it all by myself. I’m not one to brag but when it comes to stuff like that, I somehow figure it out and it tends to work out for me (knock on wood).



This was during the weekend of electrical. More about that later, obviously.



Installed… spoiler alert, I get electrical in this place. :D
 
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During the 18-month house remodel we had a guy do the electrical upgrade. The way he ran the conduit left me with a decision to make. A) undo the wiring and move the conduit over one knockout or B) deal with it and spend a little more money (in parts) and run it the way I did.



One thing this prevented was running into more irrigation lines. I ended up running into 4 of them (and breaking 2) but I, most likely, would have it 2 other sections. I didn't know about this, later, talking to the previous owner.

Digging the trench sucked. Specifically the last few inches getting me to proper depth. It was hard packed stuff.

The trench was just a primer for running wire. It was recommended to go with the MHF but I didn't because I foolishly wanted to stick with 100a. Well, the extra size of the 1/0-1/0-1/0 with ground made it a real bear to go from panel to panel. Due to the wrestling match me and my dad (whom had flown out for a week's vacation, lucky for me) had I didn't take many pics.

We had probably a day and a half of work into getting it all set. I don't know how I would have done it on my own, which is what I was planning on.

So, take it from me, listen to the fellas in the Electrical Forum. They won't steer you wrong.
 

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I just read the entire thread so far.
I loved the one about your day labor. It really struck home. I've had the same thing happen here. You hire an enthusiastic guy and there's no one home, but the light is on. We have the same thing happen at work. Once in awhile I find a "helper" that's "trainable" as I put it and they work out until they find a regular job.

I like the rebuild of the shop.
 

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Brent, you inspired me, thank you.

I just read the thread, and it is so comparable to my situation. It is amazing how much you can collect in a limited space when you see value in an item.
My garage is stuffed full, when I saw that you actually managed to empty and get organized, I have now decided to do the same, it should have been done many years ago.
I might even start a thread of my own, in due time of course.

Again, thank you so much.

Jan
 

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Just read through it all. Great build thread. Love your attitude towards everything you encounter. Can't wait to see the finished product. I love those doors. Seal them with Shellac or maybe some Satin Poly.

Bret
 
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I just came in [from the shop] to cover for my wife while the kid's nap and see all these comments. Thanks, folks, I appreciate the kind words.

I just read the entire thread so far.
I loved the one about your day labor. It really struck home. I've had the same thing happen here. You hire an enthusiastic guy and there's no one home, but the light is on. We have the same thing happen at work. Once in awhile I find a "helper" that's "trainable" as I put it and they work out until they find a regular job.

I like the rebuild of the shop.

I've repeated this story to a few guys in the trades out here and the stories they've told in return make mine seem dull. Guys renegotiating half way into a project or passing out (drunk) on the way to the site and sleeping through the day, etc.

Like my brother said, there's a reason why those guys are on the curb and not on a job site. Out here in the Salt Lake valley there's a large skilled labor shortage. Pretty much if you have no skills but have the ambition to learn and a little common sense, you can get a pretty decent entry level job.

Brent, you inspired me, thank you.

I just read the thread, and it is so comparable to my situation. It is amazing how much you can collect in a limited space when you see value in an item.
My garage is stuffed full, when I saw that you actually managed to empty and get organized, I have now decided to do the same, it should have been done many years ago.

I might even start a thread of my own, in due time of course.

Again, thank you so much.

Jan

Wow, Jan, thanks! I appreciate it. I was reluctant to make a thread but I had been posting around, sharing pics here and there, and was encouraged to make my own thread by a few others.

I hope you do make a thread. Let me know, as well. I'd love to see what you have going.

Just read through it all. Great build thread. Love your attitude towards everything you encounter. Can't wait to see the finished product. I love those doors. Seal them with Shellac or maybe some Satin Poly.

Bret

Thanks. I love these doors, as well. I don't think I could have found something that would better fit this project or my style.

As far as what to coat them with, I'm really on the fence. I'd like to stain them a tad darker. The sheen will definitely be satin but the color, I'm not sure of.

Great thread so far! Keep us updated.

Thanks! Will do.

Great thread! Subscribed.

I need to follow your lead!

Thanks. I have some stuff that I am going to add, tonight. The plan is to get it all pretty well set before the new year. I'd really like to get the Samurai done and out wheeling this coming spring.

Great thread,like your style,should be an author. Good luck with your project.

Thanks, Oilslick, that's a pretty cool compliment.
 

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Awesome build so far mate...

I counted 12 toolboxes in your first few photo's! and i thought i was bad with having 4 in my garage!!! When my new garage is built i'm just going to buy one massive 60" 22 drawer box and call it a day, sell 3 of the 4 on Gumtree, only keeping my old Sidchrome roll cab I've had since i was a apprentice.

Also, whats the story with people waiting around for work at hardware stores? It doesn't happen in Australia. Is lack of employment that bad? or is it unskilled labourers, and mostly people who arnt "cough" legal?

See Here its all backwards, bludgers and no hopers just get on the Dole, a $400 USD per fortnight allowance, given to "job seekers" actively looking for work. You have to do a certain amount of job applications per week, but these people have no intention of working, so they just flunk their interviews so they never get a job.

whats the open top hot rod you have? that looks real nice!

Rudi
 
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Awesome build so far mate...

I counted 12 toolboxes in your first few photo's! and i thought i was bad with having 4 in my garage!!! When my new garage is built i'm just going to buy one massive 60" 22 drawer box and call it a day, sell 3 of the 4 on Gumtree, only keeping my old Sidchrome roll cab I've had since i was a apprentice.

Also, whats the story with people waiting around for work at hardware stores? It doesn't happen in Australia. Is lack of employment that bad? or is it unskilled labourers, and mostly people who arnt "cough" legal?

See Here its all backwards, bludgers and no hopers just get on the Dole, a $400 USD per fortnight allowance, given to "job seekers" actively looking for work. You have to do a certain amount of job applications per week, but these people have no intention of working, so they just flunk their interviews so they never get a job.

whats the open top hot rod you have? that looks real nice!

Rudi

Thanks, Rudi!

Yeah, it got bad for a while. :lol: It seemed like I was a magnet for vintage Craftsman boxes for a year or so. I think I have 6 C-man bottoms, a Snap-On bottom (under the drill press), and 4 tops and mid boxes. While I do have a little room to grow, they're mostly full. I like using boxes rather than pedestals for the drill press and bench grinders.

I have turned down a couple matching stacks of boxes over the years and each time I get a little remorse. Not that I have the room nor the need but I dig the color scheme and they're pretty decent quality. However, if a superb silver/red combo comes my way, I'll for sure grab it. Haha, I'm doomed. :lol:

As far as the day laborers hanging out at the curb looking for work, that's not at all the hardware stores. There are two Home Depots in the city/valley where there's far more commercial traffic, so they hang out looking for work.

Unfortunately, the workers don't have a good reputation, anymore. And, yes, I assume most of them couldn't work legally. Problem is, lots of these guys have issues that couldn't land decent work, regardless.

On a happier note, that little hot rod is a 1926 Model T roadster with some local history. It's sitting on a 1930 Model A chassis. It'll have a few little period hop-up parts. It'll be a little barnstormer, nothing fancy, and certainly not fast.
 
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