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Swanny1953

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Happy New Year, fellow GJer’s! I’ve been a member for several years and have followed many of your threads over the years, my favorites being Mark’s Monster Garage and Don Long’s Building My Big Party Garage! These guys have gone above and beyond in the sharing of their stories with us.
I retired a couple of years ago, and after marrying off our youngest daughter in June 2016, the wife and I decided a little change of scenery would do us good. We’d been in the same house in Dallas since we moved here 20+ years ago. We wanted to stay in the DFW area. Our criteria for the new house included: 1) enough land to have a shop building for me and have the neighbors be farther away than literally over the fence from us, 2) everything on one level as we were quite tired of trudging up 18 steps to get to bed every night (not to mention countless other trips during the typical day), 3) an “open” floor plan as our existing house had lots of individual rooms, but no feeling of spaciousness, and 4) downsize from the existing 4,500 feet (there are only 2 of us and the dog now). After engaging a realtor and looking at numerous properties, we closed on this in November 2016.
View media item 78577We succeed on getting all but 1 of our criteria checked off with the new house. You guessed it, we didn’t downsize (the new place is about 500 sq. ft. bigger). BUT – I didn’t have to worry about constructing a shop building as there was a separate 40’ by 50’ garage building with 10’ ceilings, fully finished with a ½ bath and HVAC. Here’s what we started with – the previous owners used it as a play room.
View media item 78578View media item 78585So, the first order of business was to take up the carpet and get a proper floor installed. Pulling up the carpet was the easy part. Getting the mastic off the floor was something I tried to do myself (not a good, or successful, idea), but ended up having the flooring company do instead. Here are in-process and finished shots of the floor.
View media item 78586View media item 78589The next order of business was to install some New Age cabinets and upgrade the tool box as I had outgrown the old Craftsman box I’d had for 20+ years. Next was the addition of a BendPak 4-post lift. I neglected to take any pictures of the installation of these items, but you can see them in the photo below.
The goal here was not only to have a place to store my wheeled toys, but also have enough room to work on them as well as have a small “man cave” with a TV area, golf practice area and a few pieces of workout equipment. We bought a SWB big back window ’66 Chev C10 pickup several years ago that is in need of a rodstoration. It has rust in the expected places and some shoddy bodywork to cover up the rust in some others, so lots of sanding & body work are in my future. In the meantime, we acquired 2 new toys. My father-in-law gave my wife the first Corvette he ever owned (he had 5 when I met him), a 1969 Riverside Gold, 390hp big block 4-speed with less than 42,000 miles in pristine condition. Then, I found a car similar to the one I had as a high school senior, a 1966 Dodge Charger that I just had to bring home. All of a sudden, I’m out of space to work on anything without getting all the other toys covered in dust!
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Took a quick break to save my work.
I’m sure you guys can see the dilemma here – too many toys and not enough space to work on them properly. I am blessed to have married a phenomenal lady who indulges my hobbies. Her solution – let’s just enlarge the “Big Garage” so you have room to do everything you want! She didn’t have to tell me that twice (actually, she did – I still have a bit of the frugal country boy upbringing in me), so we got an architect friend of ours to come up with plans for a 30’ addition to the end of the existing building. It will match the existing construction to keep peace with the HOA & neighbors, but will have a 13’ interior ceiling to accommodate a 2-post lift. The exterior elevations can be seen below:
View media item 78579So, after 3+ months of revising plans, recruiting a contractor, having the foundation/floor engineering done, getting HOA approval and city construction permits, we’re ready to begin, just in time for Christmas to bring everything to a halt! We did finally get started late last week with some tree removal and setting the initial foundation forms. Unfortunately for me, it has gotten cold in Texas with freezing temps not expected to disappear until later this week. So, I guess we’ll see how much gets done in the next few days. Here’s the last of the progress in 2017.
View media item 78852View media item 78851Updates to come as we get further into the project.
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Sounds great and going to get greater and will be following your build. But I can’t see any pics.
 

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Happy New Year, fellow GJer’s! I’ve been a member for several years and have followed many of your threads over the years, my favorites being Mark’s Monster Garage and Don Long’s Building My Big Party Garage! These guys have gone above and beyond in the sharing of their stories with us.
I retired a couple of years ago, and after marrying off our youngest daughter in June 2016, the wife and I decided a little change of scenery would do us good. We’d been in the same house in Dallas since we moved here 20+ years ago. We wanted to stay in the DFW area. Our criteria for the new house included: 1) enough land to have a shop building for me and have the neighbors be farther away than literally over the fence from us, 2) everything on one level as we were quite tired of trudging up 18 steps to get to bed every night (not to mention countless other trips during the typical day), 3) an “open” floor plan as our existing house had lots of individual rooms, but no feeling of spaciousness, and 4) downsize from the existing 4,500 feet (there are only 2 of us and the dog now). After engaging a realtor and looking at numerous properties, we closed on this in November 2016.
View media item 78577We succeed on getting all but 1 of our criteria checked off with the new house. You guessed it, we didn’t downsize (the new place is about 500 sq. ft. bigger). BUT – I didn’t have to worry about constructing a shop building as there was a separate 40’ by 50’ garage building with 10’ ceilings, fully finished with a ½ bath and HVAC. Here’s what we started with – the previous owners used it as a play room.
View media item 78578View media item 78585So, the first order of business was to take up the carpet and get a proper floor installed. Pulling up the carpet was the easy part. Getting the mastic off the floor was something I tried to do myself (not a good, or successful, idea), but ended up having the flooring company do instead. Here are in-process and finished shots of the floor.
View media item 78586View media item 78589The next order of business was to install some New Age cabinets and upgrade the tool box as I had outgrown the old Craftsman box I’d had for 20+ years. Next was the addition of a BendPak 4-post lift. I neglected to take any pictures of the installation of these items, but you can see them in the photo below.
The goal here was not only to have a place to store my wheeled toys, but also have enough room to work on them as well as have a small “man cave” with a TV area, golf practice area and a few pieces of workout equipment. We bought a SWB big back window ’66 Chev C10 pickup several years ago that is in need of a rodstoration. It has rust in the expected places and some shoddy bodywork to cover up the rust in some others, so lots of sanding & body work are in my future. In the meantime, we acquired 2 new toys. My father-in-law gave my wife the first Corvette he ever owned (he had 5 when I met him), a 1969 Riverside Gold, 390hp big block 4-speed with less than 42,000 miles in pristine condition. Then, I found a car similar to the one I had as a high school senior, a 1966 Dodge Charger that I just had to bring home. All of a sudden, I’m out of space to work on anything without getting all the other toys covered in dust!
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Hi Swanny,

I am unable to see the pics. Also, depending on where in the DFW area you reside, I may be just up, or down, the road from you.

My wife and I are in a similar situation- looking for a house, prefer single story, land for a shop, and neighbors further away than the length of my arms.

Anyway, thanks for the posts, will lurk along that I may get additional ideas.

Pm if you wish.

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I thought I had this picture posting thing down as I could see them when I previewed the post and I can while I am logged in. :confused: However, when I logged out on my iPad, the pictures disappeared. I had linked them to my GJ picture album - guess that doesn't work for anyone else to see them but me! Back to the drawing board on the picture front!
OK, just turned the album from private to public and the pics showed on my iPad when not logged in, so assuming they will show now for everyone to see. Please let me know.
 

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I can see the pictures just fine.

Amazing garage you're starting with and will be even more awesome with the expansion!
 

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Ohhh boy this is gonna be good. Keep the pics coming please, specially the vet when ya get a chance. Thanks :)
 
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Sounds great and going to get greater and will be following your build. But I can’t see any pics.
CDE - yeah, I have a pretty good starting point!

I can't see them either.
Jon - thanks for stopping by. Pics should be fixed now.

Hi Swanny,

I am unable to see the pics. Also, depending on where in the DFW area you reside, I may be just up, or down, the road from you.

My wife and I are in a similar situation- looking for a house, prefer single story, land for a shop, and neighbors further away than the length of my arms.

Anyway, thanks for the posts, will lurk along that I may get additional ideas.

Pm if you wish.

LostPatriot
Lost - we are in Lucas, just east of Allen. Lots of great places available if you're looking, this one just fit our criteria the best from a location standpoint.

This will be great!
Whitey - I sure hope so! Thanks for stopping by.

Ohhh boy this is gonna be good. Keep the pics coming please, specially the vet when ya get a chance. Thanks :)
LXCam - again, I sure hope so! I'll get some pics of the toys posted once it heats up a little around here!!
 

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CDE - yeah, I have a pretty good starting point!


Jon - thanks for stopping by. Pics should be fixed now.


Lost - we are in Lucas, just east of Allen. Lots of great places available if you're looking, this one just fit our criteria the best from a location standpoint.


Whitey - I sure hope so! Thanks for stopping by.


LXCam - again, I sure hope so! I'll get some pics of the toys posted once it heats up a little around here!!
I am well familiar with Lucas as I attended Lucas Christian Church, adjacent to LCA off Country Club.
Currently reside in Princeton.

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Not sure what the issue with the pictures is. I can see them both on my iPad and laptop when I'm not logged into GJ. Yesterday, the issue was the GJ album I uploaded the pictures to was not marked as public, so no one could see the pics in the posts other than me. Thought that was fixed. Maybe a Tapatalk issue?
 

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Not sure what the issue with the pictures is. I can see them both on my iPad and laptop when I'm not logged into GJ. Yesterday, the issue was the GJ album I uploaded the pictures to was not marked as public, so no one could see the pics in the posts other than me. Thought that was fixed. Maybe a Tapatalk issue?

Started reading this and guessed first up you had them hosted here and set to private. Now you have them set to public I can add this is going to be a great project to follow.
 
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Started reading this and guessed first up you had them hosted here and set to private. Now you have them set to public I can add this is going to be a great project to follow.
HOTFR8 - The two comments from the Tapatalk users were made after I reset the album to public. However, I opened a Tapatalk account on my iPhone and can see all the pictures just fine, logged in or not. Not sure what the issue is. . . . . or maybe it's gone now:dunno:
 

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Okay so Tapatalk won't let me see any photos, so I tried opening off the actual site.
It worked.
Looks awesome. Need more pictures!

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HOTFR8 - The two comments from the Tapatalk users were made after I reset the album to public. However, I opened a Tapatalk account on my iPhone and can see all the pictures just fine, logged in or not. Not sure what the issue is. . . . . or maybe it's gone now:dunno:

I think you fixed it when you changed from private to public with the settings. :beer:
 
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Okay so Tapatalk won't let me see any photos, so I tried opening off the actual site.
It worked.
Looks awesome. Need more pictures!
Sychotix - not sure why Tapatalk won't let you see the pics. I downloaded it on one of my iPads and on my iPhone and could see the pics OK. Glad you can see on the GJ site.

The pictures are great from my end. It would be nice to have a separate "clean" room. Need more pictures.

Billy
Billy - We're just getting started on this project - digging trenches for the foundation beams today.
As for a "clean" room, the existing space will largely be that, although I'll still use the 4-post lift for maintenance and other projects. The new section will have a 2-post lift and at least a portion of it will be partitioned with a full length curtion wall to contain dust & mess.

Great house, great shop.....you’ll have lots of room for projects when the addition is done,

Eric
Eric - Thanks for stopping by. Funny you should mention the "lots of room" comment - going to dinner last night my wife asked me if the addition was going to be big enough!! I assured her it would be just fine, but WHAT A WIFE to be worried that I wasn't going to have enough garage space!!:bounce:
 
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Pics look good on my end.
I hear ya on it being cold. -25 wind chill in Green Bay
920Kip - glad the pics are coming through. Don't know how you guys cope with that weather!! Stay warm.

Looking forward to the updates.
Warren - thanks for stopping by. Will post some more pics shortly and expect progress to ramp up as the foundation/slab will be poured early next week.
 
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We've had a little progress, but I expect activity to ramp up once the foundation/slab is poured this coming week.
We had 5 holly bushes and 2 pretty good size cedar trees that were in the footprint of the new structure and driveway, so those had to be moved and replanted.
View media item 79063Once the trees were out of the way, the guys could set the initial forms outline.
View media item 79061At this point, we had to relax until the surveyor could come in and update the survey for the new foundation forms. Once that was done, the guys came back and dug out the trenches for the foundation beams, put down the base rock and tarped everything, and ran the tensioning cables and what little rebar there is.
It's amazing to me how maneuverable this little backhoe is. He was able to dig out right along the outline of the forms and up against the existing foundation, really cutting down on the hand work that had to be done.
View media item 79068View media item 79059Finished forms waiting for inspection:
View media item 79062View media item 79238We're now ready for the city foundation setup inspection and expect to pour the foundation/slab on Tuesday.
I expect the activity will pick up from here. We're hoping to get the driveway approach over the storm runoff ditch completed shortly to ease access to the project for the workers and limit the amount of tearing up of the lot.
More to come . . . . .
 
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Here's the update for the week.
Of course, it rained Sunday and the completed forms accumulated 6" or so of water, so when the inspector arrived Monday AM he failed the inspection because the pumps hadn't had a chance to drain all the water. He returned on Tuesday and gave us the green light.
Wednesday late AM, the trucks started lining up:
View media item 79416Once everyone got set up, the pumping began in earnest:
View media item 79418View media item 79417Preliminary finishing began:
View media item 79415The guys were there until well after dark doing the final finish work:
View media item 79413Finished product the next day:
View media item 79414Forms were pulled on Friday. Next week framing and demolition of the brick on the north wall begin as well as forming up the driveway over the storm ditch.
 
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I just saw this a few minutes ago and I really enjoyed looking over the pics so far! I do not know anything about you or how you got to this point however I can tell that you are a hard working guy. People like you, deserve the awesome retirement that you are embarking and I think it is awesome. I am just a young guy but I love seeing my parents enjoy retirement, it sure is a blessing that they created... Take care and have fun!!!
 
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Off to a good start. DFW resident here as well
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Strength - thanks for stopping by. More to come!

I just saw this a few minutes ago and I really enjoyed looking over the pics so far! I do not know anything about you or how you got to this point however I can tell that you are a hard working guy. People like you, deserve the awesome retirement that you are embarking and I think it is awesome. I am just a young guy but I love seeing my parents enjoy retirement, it sure is a blessing that they created... Take care and have fun!!!
Sean - Thanks for the kind words. I have had a blessed career, most of it in the building products distribution business and focused on roofing for the last 20 or so years. I have been involved as a CFO in building up several companies, the last one of which we started in 2008 in Florida with 8 locations and now have nearly 200 across the country doing more than $2 billion in annual revenue in less than 10 years. Lots of hard work finding, acquiring, financing and growing the business and grooming great people to take it forward, but it was a hell of a lot of fun!!
I just spent the morning reading your GJ thread and must confess to being in awe of your scavenging skills :bounce: as well as your ability to tackle most any project and make it look like a pro did it. As a new granddad, I enjoyed watching the progression of your son growing up. As they say, enjoy the ride, they grow up way too fast!!
 
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Here's the update for this past week. Monday was MLK day, and none of the laborers showed up (go figure!), even though they told my contractor they would be there. Then, we had frigid cold Tuesday/Wednesday, so nothing got done those days. Finally, on Thursday, the masons showed up and demoed the brick on the north wall, the framing package was delivered and the concrete guys got the culvert set across the storm water ditch.
View media item 79671View media item 79688On Friday, the concrete guys got the access across the culverts formed up and ready for inspection on Monday and pouring on Tuesday.
View media item 79670The contractor and his helper got 2 of the walls framed up.
View media item 79672Next week, the last wall will be framed in and the trusses constructed and installed. It will be interesting to watch as they have to take the hip out of the existing roofline and tie into the existing roof truss structure. I'm told we should be roofed and potentially dried in by the end of next week.
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What do they say – “Pathway to Hell is paved with good intentions”?? That pretty much surmises me with this thread – I had good intentions at the outset to keep up with the construction progress, and then update as additional changes were made, but. . . . . A wise man once told me the difference between an excuse and an explanation depended on whether you were on the listening end or the talking end, so I won’t offer anything further about why we are where we are!!

Although it is now nearly 4 years later, I have scrubbed through the pictures I did take and think I can provide a timeline of construction as well as major upgrades since then. Let’s get started.

Once my contractor and his helper had the exterior walls up, and the central glu-lam beam down the center of the structure, the framing crew showed up to construct the rafters and ceiling joists. They began by building the scaffolding they would use to set the roof joists.
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Then they set the main roof ridge beam and began constructing the roof joists.
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They tied the new roof into the existing hip and pretty much left the original structure dried in at this point.
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They then set the ridge for the gable on the end of the new portion of the garage and then did the roof joists for this section.
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I found watching these guys work to be fascinating. The crew foreman worked the saw all day, and I never saw him throw away a stick of wood, which I found amazing given the angles they had to match tying in the gable roof, etc. By the time they left, all the roof trusses were completed. They came back the next day and put up the exterior sheeting and did all the interior ceiling joists.
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The original structure had only 10’ ceilings, which limited the use of my existing 4-post lift. I initially intended to install a 2-post lift, which required at least 12’ ceilings. Since the addition had to match the existing structure on the outside, we were limited to a 10’ sill plate height. In order to get the additional ceiling height, they vaulted the ceiling by attaching the ceiling joists above the sill plate line, ultimately giving me 13’ of ceiling height.
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At one point during construction, we had a torrential rain storm, which dropped as much rain in an hour as I have seen. Storm runoff in our development is all surface water – there is no underground sewer lines as we are all on septic systems. It was the only time in the 6+ years we have been in the house that the runoff has gone over our driveway. I happened to be in the garage while all the rain was coming down, and filming the runoff. Suddenly, the Port-o-John started being moved by the water current. It moved several feet before ultimately coming to rest against the builders sign. Lucky the sign was there, because it would have likely kept floating down to our main driveway.
I have a 16 second video clip of the "John" on the move, but cannot figure out how to post it here!
That, my friends, gives a whole new meaning to the phrase, “That was a real turd floater of a storm!!”
 
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At this point in the project, I got a little lazy about taking pictures and we were gone for 2 weeks to Hawaii to celebrate my 65th birthday with our kids and their families. Here are a couple of pictures of the guys finishing up the roofing before constructing the dormer on the addition to match the existing dormers, as well as a picture of the brick work in process.
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