Anyone buy a used 15 ton crane
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cvairwerks
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Don't screw with the buried tanks if you can avoid it at all costs....A high risk of getting TDEQ and the EPA involved...
OP
I concur but there buried in a direct path from my power pole to the North wall of the shop where i need to trench. The shop is near a small town that I doubt would see or say anything.
Robbie B
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I would trench around them suckers before I dug them up and risked the hassle of the EPA and all that **** coming up.
driftpin
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Have you scoped-inside? How-empty are they? Are they still intact? Pretty-sure there would need to be the EPA involved for a removal, and your local /state Dept. of Environmental Resource Management, or whatever they're called. Mitigation of the site could be a really-expensive headache, if they've leaked.
https://www.tceq.texas.gov/assets/public/comm_exec/pubs/rg/rg-475m.pdf
https://www.epa.gov/ust
Where are the outriggers for that crane? I don't see any. That could be a real-problem.
https://www.tceq.texas.gov/assets/public/comm_exec/pubs/rg/rg-475m.pdf
https://www.epa.gov/ust
Where are the outriggers for that crane? I don't see any. That could be a real-problem.
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pizza
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dumb question, but by buried fuel tank, you mean propane?
sberry
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I dig them up and get rid of them. But buying a used crane to be part of this is a brain fart.
southalabama
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Track hoe
Hire it
Hire it
Ton ton
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It would be fun to play with a crane , just for kicks. I know that it's not going to pay for itself.
Unless you already have th equipment to excavate the tanks, a track hoe seems to be a better buy than a crane as with the hoe you should be able to both dig them out lift the tanks up once unearthed.
If the tanks were properly closed up I'm also in the leave them be and trench around them camp.
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If the tanks were properly closed up I'm also in the leave them be and trench around them camp.
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sberry
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Properly closed up,,,, this I doubt. Put a stick in and see if anything is in them first. Get rid of them if they are manageable,,, depends on the size? Like a lot of threads this is incomplete and all simply speculation.
Nothing is as good as gone. We had some kind of audit for insurance and they asked about buried tanks,,, I said,,, none for decades, any were torn out and gone. They didnt ask for any more details.
Nothing is as good as gone. We had some kind of audit for insurance and they asked about buried tanks,,, I said,,, none for decades, any were torn out and gone. They didnt ask for any more details.
txvwnut
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Instead of buying something that may be a money pit just rent an excavator and do it like the companies that remove tanks do. Dig around them smash a hole in the top away from the access hole run a chain through and lift with the bucket.
jonesg
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Its illegal in some (liberal) states to DIY,
typical EPA approved contractor cost is $10K and up.
it might be a good time whilst the EPA is currently defanged. Depends where you are.
typical EPA approved contractor cost is $10K and up.
it might be a good time whilst the EPA is currently defanged. Depends where you are.
They are the rusty squares you see at each end. I think they telescope straight out and then tilt down slightly as they are already quite low. Rusty pads pivot down as soon as they extend past the cam built on the cylinder, or something like that
.nelstomlinson
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You'll need the hoe to dig them out, might as well use it to lift them, too.
driftpin
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They are the rusty squares you see at each end. I think they telescope straight out and then tilt down slightly as they are already quite low. Rusty pads pivot down as soon as they extend past the cam built on the cylinder, or something like that
Yeah, I am not familiar w/that crane, I'm not an operating engineer either. They looked like some-sort of counterweights to-me, I didn't think they were the outriggers.
sberry
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What that crane is nice for is a small steel director to leave right on jobs, pre engineered building type stuff. Lots of stuff to go wrong with something like that, none of it cheap and lots of it complicated.
I do wonder what that crane 12 miles away has to do with digging up a tank.
I do wonder what that crane 12 miles away has to do with digging up a tank.
OP
I guess for now I'll rent another excavator to remove the last few tree stumps and dig around the perimeter of the tanks to get an idea of what size tanks are.
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sberry
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Depending on the soil,, not sure about Texas but can even hand dig small ones out. Throne the dirt far enough back starting the sides, follow curve half way down and dig a ditch along one end. Can hook in a bung and rig a pry up, even pull with a pickup. Can cave in drag out, any number of things.
A couple strong guys can roll 500 gallon, even tip one in a pickup easy enough.
A couple strong guys can roll 500 gallon, even tip one in a pickup easy enough.
sberry
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You can pound a rod, can even simple drill to find size. I did a big one for a church way back in the day, we cut a hole in it with a sawzall, dumped 5 gallons of soap, stuck an extension on the hot pressure washer washed it all around and sucked it right out dry with a vac truck. Then filled it up with sand, buried it up.
That must have been 30 years ago. I don't even remember why I was there,, I remember, was to rig the steamer, went down to the hwd to get extensions.
That must have been 30 years ago. I don't even remember why I was there,, I remember, was to rig the steamer, went down to the hwd to get extensions.
OHMS LAW
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Something that old I’d double and triple check that winch cable. Also you’d have to check the hydraulics. Theres a a lot that could be wrong with it. No telling how it’s been used. Shock loads are hell on a boom.
sberry
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I agree, old crane, I have seen it work but usually highly experienced men with a purpose that makes sense. There is a right kind of owner for something like that.
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crane operator
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Not much for parts available for the bantam. They are old and obsolete and have no value except as scrap.
Looks like the hyd reel for the boom laying by the engine compartment. Looks like they've managed to two block it also.
You could spend $5,000 easily getting it operable. Three times that if you want it to pass a inspection, and that might not be enough $$.
Looks like the hyd reel for the boom laying by the engine compartment. Looks like they've managed to two block it also.
You could spend $5,000 easily getting it operable. Three times that if you want it to pass a inspection, and that might not be enough $$.