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Anvils and vises and tools, Oh My!

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Our last non-automotive flea mkt event of 2010 was this past weekend. This new event of ours is not yet large enough to require the entire fairgrounds; thus we only rent half of it. So the other half was rented by a big annual Blacksmith show.

So when I got there, I hopped on a golf cart, and went over to introduce myself to the other event mgmt team, to secure arrangements for mutual gate security between our shows, etc.

When I got there, I was surprised to learn that these guys were really into metal fabrication and big old tools...not shoeing horses. The horse-shoeing trade is called "Farrier" work, and these guys are not into that. So I looked around, and what did I see? Anvils, vises, and tools EVERYWHERE! :wtf:

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Anyone want an anvil?

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Is there any particular size, shape, weight, or flavor of anvil you would prefer?

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Maybe you might like a larger one?

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How about an anvil surrounded with large post vises? This lady has a nice "garden" setting with her old-iron-lying-in-the-grass look, doesn't she?

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Here are some more. This vendor left them in his trailer, and allowed people to walk through, rather than drag them out to display. Smart! :thumbup: Still haven't found one you like yet? Well...

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....here are a few more, all lined up and ready for you.

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Here is a lonely anvil, just begging for a home. It gave me that big-eyed yearning look as I walked by... And note the pedigree. We've all heard of steel and iron products from Sheffield, England.

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Maybe you would like an uncommon style of anvil, or some cool accessories? Check these out.

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Or perhaps you would be intrigued by a rare accessory for your anvil? This device was described to me as a dedicated hammer/jig accessory, which was used to make tin cans from sheets of steel by hand, WAY back in the day. It had a rolling type bar with grooves in it, to be struck with the hammer to create stiffener grooves around the can. Who knows? :headscrat

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You wanna see vises? Here is a good sized Athol vise which I missed for $30. When I visited Saturday the vendor's booth was closed. He had left it sitting outside with price marked. Next day I PLANNED to race right over and buy it, but my own event was packed, and I couldn't get away till 2 PM, and when I did...the vendor was gone.

I bought a large vise for myself, but I'll post that separately tomorrow night. So for tonight, let me post a couple of smaller ones.

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How 'bout this miniature Wilton "bullet" style vise? (I put my eyeglasses in the photo for size reference.) It was cute as a new puppy, and I would have bought it just for fun...but look at the price on that piece of blue tape. :shocking: I left it there.

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The same seller had another, even smaller vise. The interesting thing about that vise is the gear-driven method it is opened and closed. See the "teeth" in the side of the slide? The seller showed me how it clicked for each tooth, but said the vise must be missing some parts, so he couldn't show me exactly how it worked originally. Cool, huh?

I wish I could have shown you more pictures. I'll bet there were literally 500 anvils, and two hundred vises at that show. (I was so impressed that I ended up joining their Blacksmith club!) But I didn't have my camera on Friday, and on both Saturday and Sunday my own event kept me too busy to get over there until the action had died down, and most booths were covered under tarps. :(
Time to hit the hay for tonight. I've been up before dawn each day since Friday, and working outdoors till after dark...including tonight. Tomorrow AM I must be at my desk at my "real" job...
 
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That way cool! Next time thats on i`m staying at your place and going? how about " the anvils of the garage journal post?)
 
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What a sight that must have been. I could give every one of those anvils a home. Not sure I'm seeing the prices correctly in the photos but they didn't seem unreasonable.
 
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What a sight that must have been. I could give every one of those anvils a home. Not sure I'm seeing the prices correctly in the photos but they didn't seem unreasonable.

Highest price I saw written on a vise was $700...but that vise weighed way over 400 pounds. Some were as low as $175...but I didn't bother looking at reproductions or tiny anvils, which were presumably cheaper. Most were in the $250-400 range.
 
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Like I said, I sure wish I would have remembered my camera on that first day, in the middle of the day when I went over there. I could have shown you so much more!!
 

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I want to retrain as a blacksmith when the kids go to school (currently full time stay at home dad) so that show would have been manna from heaven. I have been gathering smithing tools for a few years now and so have an anvil, a couple of leg vises and loads of odd tongs, anvils tools etc etc. We don't get events like that over here.
 
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Maybe a bunch of us Garage Journal folks ought to arrange to meet at this event next year? Think about it.
 

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Very cool! Thanks for sharing!


So the Anvil on the right with the Hammer dillywhacker...What is that for?


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A Metal Punch of some sort? Anyone?
 
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That's the part I mentioned in the caption under that photo, this was described to me by its owner as a hammer/jig set-up for hand-making tin cans from sheet steel. The hammer strikes a rolling cylindrical jig with grooves around its girth. The grooves in the jig are at specific distances apart, and you take off the rolling cylinder and turn it around to change the depth at which the groove will be located in your finished tin can.

The guy sort of demonstrated it, using an imaginary sheet of steel. I don't THINK he was pulling my leg...but how would I know for sure? :dunno: And, how would I know if he is correct, even if he was telling the truth? :headscrat

I sort of wondered what the flat end of the hammer head was for...if anything other than weight alone. :confused:

There were a number of oddities at this fascinating show...including some oddities walking around on two legs! :thumbup:
 

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I see a twin to my old beat up anvil. I paid much less than those prices though:

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Lump , great idea to use this as a GJ get together. Perhaps a 'You ****' trophy for whoever gets the best haul of the weekend. Thanks for taking the time to post all the great photos too.
 

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I'd love an anvil, but my piece of "detailed" rail road rail will have to keep doing. (I de-rusted it with a twisted wire cup on a grinder, and painted it red, then burnished the top of it with the wire cup).

An anvil would be really nice, but it's another dedicated thing in the shop that would take up a lot of space--the rail road rail sits on a bench against the wall until I need it. Or it sits on the floor. Or on a shelf. Or...

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No, but I asked some of them about that, and several of them had witnessed it happening live at other events. There is just something about a 150 pound hunk of steel being blasted a couple of hundred feet into the air over my head, to the point where I lose sight of it, that worries me a little. Yet I must admit it is fascinating to contemplate, and I would indeed love to see it done.

For those innocents among you who haven't witnessed that phenomenon in person, I offer this link to a youtube video:

 

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Those little 2" wiltons regularly fetch $100 on ebay, give or take. They're in better condition than that one though...like new will break $100. Really good vises can't be rated on the whole dollar per pound thing when they get small like that. Certainly it cost more than 4 bucks.
 
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Nice day today for the camera in the garage. This is what I have been using as an anvil for about 35 years. Made from a piece of train rail about 12" long, really don't know what the material of the rail is but it has held up well over the years. Takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'.............:beer: :thumbup: love this site..........:bowdown:
 

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Man I been lusting for a real anvil for years. All the ones around here are either home made or some sort of chicom ****. I think I could find a spot in the shop for it somewhere. may have to head up that way next year.

Wife and I drove 800 miles for a set of rear steel tractor wheels that took up the entire backend of the durango. another 200 miles for a Coupla hundred pound anvil should be easy to swing.
 

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Here's mine. Can't see a manufacturer name and the weight is barely legible comes in at alittle over 250 lbs.
 

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I would love to come to one of those events you do. I'm not that far away...do you post the events online anywhere? What about that blacksmith club? Thanks for taking and posting all those pics!!
 

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I'd love to have a small to mid sized anvil....I just don't know why....
 

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Not a great photo of the anvil and you don't get a true idea of how big it is. Its in the 400+lb range. While the shop belongs to Chuck Hawes ,in the background you see John Smith of Centralia Il. running Chucks 25lb Little Giant power hammer. Chuck is a full time knifemaker and John was at one time also. Back in the day John was one of THE custom Bowie makers. Legend has it that one of Johns regular customers while camping used one of Johns Bowies to decapitate a feral dog that attacked him. Did it in one swipe.
Chuck also has a 100lb Little Giant also. Someday we'lll rig up decent lighting and I'll get some good photos of the hammers posted.
 

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I know this is old,but where were these events at? Im close to ya and would love to come out next summer. Do you have the name of that blacksmithing club. Id like to find them so I can "get mes an anvil" at another event or at least browse.
 

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One more thing, What is the exact purpose or advantage to the post style vises? more leverage?
 

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Anyone out there have an anvil they'd like to pass on???

I'd like to find one, something to use while fabricating would be wonderful!
 

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Here's my little 2' baby Wilton Bullet that I got off of Craigslust for $35 WITH the ball-mount base.
It was in good shape but with two layers of odd paint. I redid it in fire-engine red.
(yes, I am gloating!)

But... I'd sure like a real anvil.
I've got an old beater anvil. The end is broken off at the hardy hole and the edges are as round as a banana from someone cutting off hot stock on them! It ain't worth much more than garden decoration (though the bick is still usable).

I am VERY glad I wasn't there. If I'd taken my wife it would have ruined our marriage. If I hadn't taken her, it woulda just taken one more day for it to be ruined (once she found out what I spent!)

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I do not need an anvil, but i would sure like to have one. That train track anvil blueflame6 has is perfect. Where does one find a piece of train track?
 

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I do not need an anvil, but i would sure like to have one. That train track anvil blueflame6 has is perfect. Where does one find a piece of train track?

Stay away from the obvious source!:lol_hitti We have a scrap yard near here that does a lot of railroad scrap, I've seen rails in there. If you know someone that works for the RR they might be able to get you a chunk.
 
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I would love to come to one of those events you do. I'm not that far away...do you post the events online anywhere? What about that blacksmith club? Thanks for taking and posting all those pics!!

Hello again, guys. :thumbup: You can see my auto events at: http://www.ohioswapmeet.com/ and the general flea market plus animal swap meet is online at: http://www.troyswap.com/.

It's Sunday morning now, and I've got to go get dressed to be Santa Claus at a family Christmas party this afternoon. But later this evening I'll reply some more to this post, and supply some info about the blacksmith event.

Also, when I was a sheet metal worker, we used RR track as anvils, and had a unique way of mounting them which was very useful and convenient. I'll explain that later too.
 

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That piece of RR track came from part of the line that came into our receiving dock where I used to work. The trains at that point hadn't run in over 20 years to our facility. Everytime I use it I still think of when and where I was at the time.........the good old days......:beer:
 
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