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1-1/4" offset from stud face or face of osb/sheetrock?

spam4us

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The front of the metal box is flush with the face of the stud.
From the cable to the front of the stud(metal box) is 1 inch.
From the cable to the front of the mud ring is 1-1/2 inch.
Is the 1-1/4 inch cable offset measured from the face of the stud(metal box) or from the front of the mud ring?
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Probably not but can't tell by the picture. 1-1/4 is from a framing member(as in side ways or above/below where a covering is applied. In this case your covered. It's also the same dimension of a hole through a stud to the face which I think your getting things mixed with up here. A wire can technically be at the just under the sheathing if it 1-1/4 to the side or more of the framing member.

Where I think you would fail is its my guess the Romex is not supported 12" from the box.

Also why a plastic mud ring on a metal box?????!!!!
 
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spam4us

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Thanks for the replies. The cable is there just to show the distance from the cable to the front of the box or mud ring.

The cable will actually be entering the box from the side. I will have the cable offset from the face of the girt(stud) by 1-3/4 inch. Where it enters the box is the measurement I'm concerned about. The distance from the cable to the front of the stud is 1 inch as pictured. To the edge of the mud ring is 1-1/2 inch.

I believe code says the cable needs to be offset 1-1/4 inch. Is the 1-1/4 inch measured from the cable to the front of the stud or the front of the mud ring?

If measured to the front of the stud, I will not have enough offset (1/4 inch short). If measured to the front of the mud ring then it would meet the offset requirement.


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Thanks for the replies. The cable is there just to show the distance from the cable to the front of the box or mud ring.

The cable will actually be entering the box from the side. I will have the cable offset from the face of the girt(stud) by 1-3/4 inch. Where it enters the box is the measurement I'm concerned about. The distance from the cable to the front of the stud is 1 inch as pictured. To the edge of the mud ring is 1-1/2 inch.

I believe code says the cable needs to be offset 1-1/4 inch. Is the 1-1/4 inch measured from the cable to the front of the stud or the front of the mud ring?

If measured to the front of the stud, I will not have enough offset (1/4 inch short). If measured to the front of the mud ring then it would meet the offset requirement.




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You didn't read my reply.

If the wire is at least 1-1/4" from a framing member (up/down/sideways) then it can be any distance or even against the back side of the sheathing. Not that I recommend that. Or even with the face of the stud. So you picture box is fine. It could even be closer.

The 1-1/4" dimension you are thinking about is where a wire is stapled to the side of a stud or passes thru a stud. That is from the face of the stud
 

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Looks like a pole barn? I did some of my wiring just like this in my pole barn shop. They were then covered with 1/2" plywood. Been installed and working for 25 years so far. I am aware of where the cables are routed so it's easy to avoid running screws into them. I like the plywood as I can mount lighter stuff anywhere and use shorter screws for that. Heavy stuff gets screwed into the 2x6 cross boards with longer screws.
 
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spam4us

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Let me try to clarify if I can.
sanddanThis is in a pole barn.

The 2x4 is a girt that runs horizontal to the ground. The cable will run on top of the girt(parallel to it) but offset back against the pink insulation using cable stackers. This will keep the cable 1-1/2 inches from the face(the 4 in side) of the girt.

In the picture, just to illustrate, I have the cable entering the box at the top. In reality, the cable will enter from the side of the box using one of the 3 knock outs on the side.

Firebrick43 If I am interpreting what you are saying correctly....as long as the cable is not near a framing member, it can(but not recommended) rest right up against the back of the sheathing. The bottom knockout is about 1 inch from the top of the stud. If the cable enters the box here, it would not meet the offset requirement? If I use the middle or top knockout, that would be ok?

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Let me try to clarify if I can.
sanddanThis is in a pole barn.

The 2x4 is a girt that runs horizontal to the ground. The cable will run on top of the girt(parallel to it) but offset back against the pink insulation using cable stackers. This will keep the cable 1-1/2 inches from the face(the 4 in side) of the girt.

In the picture, just to illustrate, I have the cable entering the box at the top. In reality, the cable will enter from the side of the box using one of the 3 knock outs on the side.

Firebrick43 If I am interpreting what you are saying correctly....as long as the cable is not near a framing member, it can(but not recommended) rest right up against the back of the sheathing. The bottom knockout is about 1 inch from the top of the stud. If the cable enters the box here, it would not meet the offset requirement? If I use the middle or top knockout, that would be ok?

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