1/2" Cordless Impact Shopping

[PR1Gneon]

For High Tq: DeWalt DCF899, Milwaukee 2763/2767, Makita XWT08

For Mid Tq: DeWalt DCF894, Milwaukee 2860

Budget: Ryobi P1830

 

[Showkey]

Two years ago purchased the Milwaukee 1/2 impact.......... not use my 1/2” air impact since. Often use my m18 1/4” impact before getting the 3/8” air impact or air rachet. Have a giant 3/4 plug in 120v impact have not used in years.

I am fully committed to the Milwaukee battery Eco system M12 M18 so that plays a huge part in choosing a tool.

 

[Fbmoose48]

I just bought one of these. Haven't had the opportunity to use it yet.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-GEN5X-18-Volt-Brushless-Impact-Wrench-Kit-R86011SB/303037082

I purchased this package on 11/6. Beware of the charger bait and switch. On 11/6, as my order shows below, both the picture and description included an "R840095 charger".

It arrived today, 11/9, with an R86092 slow charger. I check the website and the image now shows the R86092 slow charger?!?!
(Edit: they still haven't gotten around to changing the text description, see below)

Seems like a bait and switch...

Luckily, I saved my email of the order confirmation... after over 45 minutes of holds HD.com agreed they had changed the ad and I was entitled to something... but it wouldn't be easy. They wouldn't ship it to me and I had to go out on my own time and gas to make it right.

 

[D45]

Ryobi 1/2" impact tool, one battery, one charger..........$129

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-18-Volt-ONE-Impact-Wrench-Kit-P1890/206736695

-Impact mechanism produces 300 ft. lbs. torque and up to 3200 impacts per minute
-Powerful motor allows for tightening or loosening various nuts and bolts
-3-speed selector switch offers greater control over a wide range of fastening applications
-Tri-beam LED light increases work area visibility
-1/2 in. square anvil with detent pin retention for easy and secure socket connection
-New and improved GripZone overmold for optimum grip and user comfort
-Indicator lights show status as batteries are charged and maintained
-Maintenance mode batteries stored on charger are conditioned for peak performance

 

[D45]

I still think for $159, the G5 Rigid kit is hard to beat.......brushless and 400 ft lbs

https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-...CA&gclsrc=ds&dclid=CMHkwpTCtdcCFcPRwAodJu4Oig

 

[BFHtime]

A couple weeks ago I picked up the 1/2" Makita rated at 1180 lb/ft. Tool only for 180. Compared to Milwaukee the warranty was better and so was the price and torque rating for what that rating is worth. It feels very solid comparable to Snap-on cordless.

 

[Fbmoose48]

I still think for $159, the G5 Rigid kit is hard to beat.......brushless and 400 ft lbs

https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-...CA&gclsrc=ds&dclid=CMHkwpTCtdcCFcPRwAodJu4Oig

The tool shipped is actually 450 ft/lbs. They advertise the torque for the pin detent version but ship the hog ring model. No complaints on that mix up.

 

[Fbmoose48]

I still think for $159, the G5 Rigid kit is hard to beat.......brushless and 400 ft lbs

https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-...CA&gclsrc=ds&dclid=CMHkwpTCtdcCFcPRwAodJu4Oig

I agree. About $150, depending on your sales tax, out the door with a coupon for what's nearly equivalent (at least in quoted specs) to the M18 2861 mid torque with a 4 Ah battery and 110 watt charger is hard to beat. My cordless is about 10+ M18 Fuel tools, no Orange/Blue/Yellow/Teal/Green, but I decided to make room for a Orange charger because of this deal.

 

[D45]

The are the pros/cons of the detent pin models vs the hog rings?

Seems like the better ones are using hog rings?

 

[efb16acrx]

The are the pros/cons of the detent pin models vs the hog rings?

Seems like the better ones are using hog rings?

Detent pins are a pain in the *** requiring a tool to remove the socket. Unless you do a lot of work at heights where a dropped socket means a trip down a ladder or an injury to someone below, skip them and get the friction ring.

 

[PR1Gneon]

Craftsman C3 2Gen, Ryobi +One 2Gen and Ridgid 4X are all the same rebranded.

Now Ridgid went brushless with the 5X and Ryobi is going to release their rebranded version soon.



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[Fbmoose48]

The are the pros/cons of the detent pin models vs the hog rings?

Seems like the better ones are using hog rings?

Depends on your application. Quick change of a hog ring is great for automotive where you may use several size sockets, positive locking mechanism of pin detent is good for industrial use where only one socket may sit on the gun through the whole shift.

The hollowed area in the anvil pin detent makes it weaker compared to a similar anvil with hog ring, which may be part of why several brands (Milwaukee, Ridgid, etc.) Advertise a lower torque for otherwise comparable models.

 

[lucky3]

A couple weeks ago I picked up the 1/2" Makita rated at 1180 lb/ft. Tool only for 180. Compared to Milwaukee the warranty was better and so was the price and torque rating for what that rating is worth. It feels very solid comparable to Snap-on cordless.

Sorry but the milwaukee warranty is 5yrs, the Makita is only 3. So no the Makita warranty isn't better then the Makita. I love my full size milwaukee fuel impact and the mid-torque one. I had the IR impact but sold it and bought the milwaukee. Glad I did, the batteries are a lot cheaper then the ones for the IR.

 

[PR1Gneon]

I have the DeWalt DCF899. It's only $20 more than the Harbor Freight Earthquake Extreme when you add the 2 year warranty. Parts are also available after the warranty is up. It's brushless. It's assembled in the USA and I already have other DeWalt tools.

X2. At $299 for the kit is hard to beat.

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[racintj]

You may want to check your local HD. I've seen them marking down the Milwaukee 2763 to $110 for the tool.

One of the tool review sites just released a shootout of the cordless 1/2" impact wrenches.

https://shoptoolreviews.com/automotive/impact-wrenches/best-cordless-impact-wrench-shootout/30501/

 

[Chromdome35]

While this is tempting, its hard to buy a Craftsman tool........yes, I LOVE my right angle 1/4" cordless impact, but

http://www.sears.com/craftsman-c3-189-8221-heavy-duty-impact-wrench-kit/p-00945195000P

Boasts a motor capable of 0-3,000 RPM for complete control

A 4 Amp-hour XCP lithium-ion battery pack delivers reliable power

1/2-inch square anvil with detent pin retention

Delivers up to 300 ft.-lbs. of torque

Built-in 3-LED lights illuminates dark work areas

I have this tool and I've used it three times in the last month to change flats on my truck and a friends truck. Both trucks are Silverado's with 22MM lugnuts torqued to 120ft lbs. It's taken them right off and puts them back on just fine. I also keep a scissor jack in the truck and use the impact to raise and lower the jack. Works like a dream.

 

[halodub]

Really the Milwaukee m18 fuel 1st gen has been my go to for years best bang for your buck
I have the snap on ct8850 and irw7150 and Milwaukee m18 fuel all is 1/2 cordless impact the fuel is in my road box and my go to

I know they just released there gen 2 line but the older fuel has held strong over the years

If I had to get another I would the only close comparison would be the new 20v Matco which seems the closest comparison to the fuel waiting on video comparison between these

But Milwaukee warrantee is hard to beat

How do/did you like that IR impact? I was looking at it, but am looking towards Metabo instead since I don't quite need all that torque (while it would be nice to have). The Milwaukee ones look great though and I was considering theirs for a while, but the warranty on the batteries is what kind of shied me away from them, and the IR impact as well.

 

[D45]

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=375626

$99 for a Ryobi kit

 

[Rarified27]

Craftsman C3 2Gen, Ryobi +One 2Gen and Ridgid 4X are all the same rebranded.

Now Ridgid went brushless with the 5X and Ryobi is going to release their rebranded version soon.



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I'm hoping the updated Ryobi you mentioned is brushless like the rest of their new line.

 

[FlushingDIYer]

Ridgid was selling the 4X last Christmas for $99 with battery and charger, no?

I agree, this Ridgid 5X brushless seems like a good deal. Though, I don't see where you adjust the speed settings. Is it just the trigger?

The issue for me is trying to get above 300ft/lbs. (My corded Milwaukee does a little more than that!) While at the same time fitting on strut bolts, subframe bolts, caliper bracket bolts, etc.

If the 5X realistically does 400ft/lbs, that makes it a mid-torque, light. Does look like a good two-three inches longer than the Milwaukee Mid-torque... Probably good for working on smallish sedans. Need to see a video of it taking off a Honda crank bolt up here in the Northeast, while it's snowing, to see if it's real deal.

 

[peteco]

The Ridgid 5X is 450 ft lbs. There has been some confusion in the specs. I plan to get one.

 

[Voi]

If the 5X realistically does 400ft/lbs, that makes it a mid-torque, light. Does look like a good two-three inches longer than the Milwaukee Mid-torque...

According to specs on Home Depot the 5x is 1" longer than the Milwaukee mid torque at 7.7" and 6.77" respectively.

 

[White Shadow]

Unless I missed it, I don't think anyone mentioned Ingersoll Rand. I have one of these and it's a bit expensive, but it's an absolute beast. More torque than my IR air impact.

https://www.ingersollrandproducts.c...ools/w7150-1-2-20v-high-torque-impactool.html

 

[beefcake]

Ridgid was selling the 4X last Christmas for $99 with battery and charger, no?

I agree, this Ridgid 5X brushless seems like a good deal. Though, I don't see where you adjust the speed settings. Is it just the trigger?

There is a switch on the top

 

[FlushingDIYer]

There is a switch on the top

ooooh.... thanks for the image, beefcake!

If I hadn't already purchased an M12/M18 battery charger and a used M12 3/8 ratchet... and a 4/0 battery I found for a song! I think I would've gone this route. I refuse to have another battery system. (Went with LXT when I started doing home repair stuff four years ago...)

Still waiting for the Great Milwaukee Mid-torque Sale of 2017... (They're giving these things away with some kits, you sell this for $99 and you OBLITERATE the competition...Though, Milwaukee obliterated the competition a long time ago, no?)

Thinking it's gonna happen sometime in 2019...

 

[D45]

M18 FUEL 18-Volt Lithium-Ion Mid Torque Brushless Cordless 1/2 in. Impact Wrench W/Friction Ring Kit W/(1) 2.0Ah Battery


https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwauk...ing-Kit-W-1-2-0Ah-Battery-2861-21CT/304238558

41% off........$199 and free shipping

 

[Knotgoalie]

Detent pins are a pain in the *** requiring a tool to remove the socket. Unless you do a lot of work at heights where a dropped socket means a trip down a ladder or an injury to someone below, skip them and get the friction ring.

I have the DCF899 with the pin anvil which I actually prefer but...as I did with my DCF889 before it , I took the Dremel to the top of the pin and made it a rounded dome instead of a point. The pin still holds the socket on there solid but all it takes is a tug to remove it.

 

[D45]

M18 FUEL 18-Volt Lithium-Ion Mid Torque Brushless Cordless 1/2 in. Impact Wrench W/Friction Ring Kit W/(1) 2.0Ah Battery


https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwauk...ing-Kit-W-1-2-0Ah-Battery-2861-21CT/304238558

41% off........$199 and free shipping

450 ft. lbs. Fastening torque
600 ft. lbs. Nut-Busting torque

Brushless motor

REDLITHIUM CP2.0 battery

M12-M18 multi-voltage charger

Seems like a good price for $199

 

[Knotgoalie]

450 ft. lbs. Fastening torque
600 ft. lbs. Nut-Busting torque

Brushless motor

REDLITHIUM CP2.0 battery

M12-M18 multi-voltage charger

Seems like a good price for $199

DeWALT DCF899P2...DCF899 impact, 2x5.0ah batteries, charger and a contractor bag for $198Cdn, tax in!...but, my brother works for S/B&D so...

 

[Ktmrider83]

For me I use these things daily as an auto mechanic. I use my smaller Makita 1/2" XWT02 98% of the week. Only using the big Dewalt DCF899 for loosening those stubborn fasteners. While it is true that when you need the brute strength bigger is better, on the flip side when you need to fit in a tight space or more importantly for me, when you need the quick rpm of the smaller impacts for a spinning ball joint it's a better overall choice. My dewalt is a slug at 1900rpm compared to 2800 of the makita. For me I need 2 impacts. But if I had to choose only 1 it would be the smaller of the 2

 

[Mr_B]

I remember the days when a man could take off his lug nuts with a wheel brace without complaint or a sweat and had no need carry a chinese 200buck impact wrench for few times a year tyre rotation/winter tyre swap .
People got real lazy buying these just for lug nut duty few minutes a year .

 

[Alaniho]

DeWalt, Milwaukee, Makita, Rigid/AEG even Ryobi have good options for this tool. I bought the DCF899 DeWalt and i also do not use this professionally but its a great tool to have around the farm. It sounds like you are getting into a new cordless line, if so consider what other tools you may want/need over the next while and select the line that offers the tools you will need and can use with the same batteries. As someone else said its a great time to get into cordless, its unbelievable how much the battery technology has improved over the last 10 years.

 

[jblnut]

I went in circles for a few months about what to buy as well and ultimately the 30+ tools and 15+ batteries I already have that have Ryobi smeared on the sides of them won out. I thought I'd give their 1/2" impact a shot. I picked a kit up on eBay for $119shipped with a charger, 4ah battery and the impact. I tore the plastic off, threw a fresh battery in and proceeded to remove all the lug bolts from both duals on our John Deere 7630. I'm impressed to say the least. I did not expect it to be able to break them free. I actually have another one on the way in the mail right now.

 

[mudflap]

DeWalt, Milwaukee, Makita, Rigid/AEG even Ryobi have good options for this tool. I bought the DCF899 DeWalt and i also do not use this professionally but its a great tool to have around the farm. It sounds like you are getting into a new cordless line, if so consider what other tools you may want/need over the next while and select the line that offers the tools you will need and can use with the same batteries. As someone else said its a great time to get into cordless, its unbelievable how much the battery technology has improved over the last 10 years.

This....have used, or seen in use in the shop for years.. Milwaukee, Dewalt, Rigid, Makita, Bosch....They all rock, and hold up well....just pick your favorite color.

 

[Tonyuk]

For £200 you could have;

- 600mm breaker bar - £14
- Set of 3 proper wheel sockets - Also £14
- 28-210nm torque wrench - £20
- 4 3-Ton axle stands - £34
- Pro quality Arcan 2 Ton trolley jack - £100
- 500g ceramic grease for the back of rims - £8
- Set of decent work gloves (12 pairs) - £9.99

Hard to justify a cordless impact for the home user not planning to do much with it.

If your dead set on one however, i would recommend the mid-torque by Milwaukee, it might be a bit more than you want to spend but buying it as a kit will give you access to a very good line up of other tools that you'll already have 2 batteries and a charger for.

 

[Bryanthegreat]

This....have used, or seen in use in the shop for years.. Milwaukee, Dewalt, Rigid, Makita, Bosch....They all rock, and hold up well....just pick your favorite color.

 

[pbon]

I remember the days when a man could take off his lug nuts with a wheel brace without complaint or a sweat and had no need carry a chinese 200buck impact wrench for few times a year tyre rotation/winter tyre swap .
People got real lazy buying these just for lug nut duty few minutes a year .

The good old days of 19 inch black and white TVs, AM radios, cars without AC or power locks or power windows.

 

[Mr_B]

The good old days of 19 inch black and white TVs, AM radios, cars without AC or power locks or power windows.

Yeh the days when a man had enough muscle and energy swap his tyres manually and didn't need A/C as he was in shape and fit lol .
Sure for farm use, semi pro home gamer and pro the battery tools proper useful but for a couple time a year tyre swap it just crazy spending out, keeping battery conditioned and lugging around likes of a HF earthquake

 

[D45]

Too bad the Ridgid deals are gone

M18 FUEL 18-Volt Lithium-Ion Mid Torque Brushless Cordless 1/2 in. Impact Wrench W/Friction Ring Kit W/(1) 2.0Ah Battery; $199

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwauk...ing-Kit-W-1-2-0Ah-Battery-2861-21CT/304238558

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Kobalt 24-Volt Max 1/2-in Drive Brushless Cordless Impact Wrench (1 Battery Included) ; new lower price of $199

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Kobalt-24-...&cm_mmc=AFF_CJ-_-6147012-_-2470763-_-10935405

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Craftsman 1/2" 19.2V Impact Wrench Kit; $139.99

http://www.sears.com/craftsman-c3-1...=10943755&utm_medium=2470763_6147012_10943755

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Kobalt has a 24V 4.0ah battery........Milwaukee has an 18V 2.0ah........Craftsman is a 19.2V 4.0ah

Craftsman is not brushless and uses a detent pin, and the power specs are the lowest..........but also the cheapest price

A spare Kobalt battery is $50, while a spare Milwaukee battery is $40-$50

 

[D45]

It is so silly, but as I look around more and more, I find myself also wanting a 3/8" cordless impact