1/2" Cordless Impact Shopping

[bubinga]

It is so silly, but as I look around more and more, I find myself also wanting a 3/8" cordless impact

I use my 3/8" cordless impact quite a bit.

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[PeedoPie]

It is so silly, but as I look around more and more, I find myself also wanting a 3/8" cordless impact

I’ve had and used my 1/2” a ton but for doing smaller jobs it can be too big and cumbersome. I just ordered a Milwaukee 2754 gun to go with it. Can’t wait to try it out

 

[JazzBlueRT]

Unless I missed it, I don't think anyone mentioned Ingersoll Rand. I have one of these and it's a bit expensive, but it's an absolute beast. More torque than my IR air impact.

https://www.ingersollrandproducts.c...ools/w7150-1-2-20v-high-torque-impactool.html

The IR W7150 with the 5ah battery is what I would buy if I had a need to replace my C3.

 

[D45]

I am going with the Milwaukee brushless platform.....in various stages

I first bought an M18 2750-21P kit for $85 shipped

Brushless Cordless 1/4 in. Compact Impact Driver
2.0Ah Battery
Charger

I am now looking for a 1/2" cordless impact with either a 4.0 or 5.0 battery......so I will be able to use the same charger that came with the above kit

Then I need to find a bare drill tool, that will just use the battery from the 1/4 or 1/2 impacts

 

[petee_c]

I bought the earthquake after watching the AvE video, and I am absolutely impressed by it!
It's not the nicest looking, lightest or best feeling tool on the market, but it works! Took the lug nuts off my truck(torqued to 140ft/lbs) like they were hand tight. Changed the tires on that and two other vehicles and still had half a charge.

For me it's an accessory tool, mainly used for rotating tires, and changing between winter and summer tires. Sits in it's case most of the time, and for the price I am perfectly happy with that.

What's the closest HF to TB?

I'm considering a Makita from Amazon.ca at $329 cdn, but only because I have 3 (1 newish) 18V LXT batteries from other Makita tools....

Peter
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[petee_c]

A couple weeks ago I picked up the 1/2" Makita rated at 1180 lb/ft. Tool only for 180. Compared to Milwaukee the warranty was better and so was the price and torque rating for what that rating is worth. It feels very solid comparable to Snap-on cordless.

Was it the DTW1002Z? Can you give a short review on it?

 

[ngk22r]

I use the Milwaukee Fuel line at work on a professional basis, mid torque is perfect for lug nuts on setting 2. It gets used all day along with my fuel 1/4 ratchet. Surge impact driver for screws and small bolts, 3/8 fuel impact for items 12mm-17mm.

The mid torque also gets used for subframe bolts, caliper bracket bolts, anywhere 1/2 would be used. They ONLY tool I have had to warranty was my 3/8 m18 impact because the rear housing bearing was abnormally noisy and the warranty process was quick and simple. Yes the fuel line can be a little pricey for some but it is well worth the investment IMO.

 

[D45]

Yes the fuel line can be a little pricey for some but it is well worth the investment IMO.

It is really not that bad.........one charger does it all and the batteries interchange

I bought the 1/4" M18 2750-21P impact kit for kit for $85 shipped

This includes the tool, one charger and two 2.0 batteries

I am shopping for a 2703-20 drill........which I can find for $85-$100 shipped.

Then, I can use the 2.0 batteries from the 1/4" impact kit........until I need something like a 4.0 battery

I plan on getting a cordless 1/2" impact, which I will buy used

Milwaukee 4.0 and 5.0 batteries are not that much, around $40-$60 shipped

 

[D45]

Both are lithium 18V, but the Milwaukee is stronger and smaller

Feels better to hold also

 

[D45]

Milwaukee 2750-20:
5-3/8" long
3.1 pounds (with battery)
0-2,800 RPM
1,500 in. / lbs. of torque
Brushless

Bostitch BTC440:
6-3/4" long
3.5 pounds w/ battery
0-2,800 RPM
1,400 in. / lbs. of torque

Don't get me wrong, I have had the Bostitch for over 4 years and used the heck out it, its done a wonderful job especially for a very low purchase price. Never let me down.

 

[D45]

I bought 3 Milwaukee batteries this weekend, all for $100

I picked up two 5.0s and one 3.0

Now I need to pick up a bare tool impact and bare tool drill and I will be set

 

[Fly YX]

At work I have Ridgid 18v so I got the 1/2 from them it works good on rebuilding aircraft wheel and tires. I also have m12 batteries at work and will get the new 3/8 when it comes out in August.I like Ridgid because of the warranty on the batteries but I found myself getting more and more Milwaukee or Bosch tools. Ridgid is not putting out any new tools in need anymore.

 

[D45]

My 2703-20 drill should arrive today, which was $67

Now just going to start shopping for a 3/8" and 1/2" impact to complete my Milwaukee lineup

 

[PDub88]

I have the Milwaukee Fuel 2754-20 Impact, which does a fair job, but more recently picked up a Fuel 2767-20 and that thing is unbelievable! The 2767-20 was on sale at ToolNut for $169 with a free 5ah battery. Depending on what your work involves the 3/8” may suffice, but the 2767-20 will take off almost everything you throw at it, the only negative is how big it is.


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[deberly12]

My 2703-20 drill should arrive today, which was $67

Now just going to start shopping for a 3/8" and 1/2" impact to complete my Milwaukee lineup

No such thing as a complete Milwaukee lineup.

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[OHMS LAW]

I recently picked up a 3/8 mid torque fuel. Toolman said it was was new on the market. For a 3/8 that thing is sick. I love it. Kicks everything snap on I have in the junk. I just I’ll be getting the 1/2 high torque soon to replace my 8850

 

[PDub88]

As you can see there is a considerable
size difference between the two.


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[braidmeister]

No such thing as a complete Milwaukee lineup.

Yeah...no foolin'!

I just tried out my new M18 mid-torque impact yesterday. No air line to trip over!

Retorquing lug nuts on the tractor chipped the paint off the rim It's got LOTS of cookies - my biggest fear is overtorquing something...snapping off lugs etc makes for a bad day.

I *wish* I could set the max torque via OneKey to keep from scrambling fasteners. I didn't get the high torque model because I know one slip of the trigger and something's getting snapped off.

 

[OHMS LAW]

I should of done a side by side. But this is it

 

[PDub88]

Yeah...no foolin'!

I just tried out my new M18 mid-torque impact yesterday. No air line to trip over!

Retorquing lug nuts on the tractor chipped the paint off the rim It's got LOTS of cookies - my biggest fear is overtorquing something...snapping off lugs etc makes for a bad day.

I *wish* I could set the max torque via OneKey to keep from scrambling fasteners. I didn't get the high torque model because I know one slip of the trigger and something's getting snapped off.

Do you have a non fuel model? Normally they have a 3 or 4 speed transmission with different torque levels.

 

[deberly12]

Yeah...no foolin'!

I just tried out my new M18 mid-torque impact yesterday. No air line to trip over!

Retorquing lug nuts on the tractor chipped the paint off the rim [emoji106] It's got LOTS of cookies - my biggest fear is overtorquing something...snapping off lugs etc makes for a bad day.

I *wish* I could set the max torque via OneKey to keep from scrambling fasteners. I didn't get the high torque model because I know one slip of the trigger and something's getting snapped off.

Yeah I have the high torque and the 3/8 compact. I use the compact on everything except my diesel. Even then it only hits once or twice. Then I torque by hand. The low torque setting is just to slow.

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[braidmeister]

Do you have a non fuel model? Normally they have a 3 or 4 speed transmission with different torque levels.

No it's a fuel - there are 3 electronic speeds, but here's the thing...leave it on anything BUT setting 3 and the lighted number backlight never goes off. Anyone else have this problem?

I read somewhere it lowers the speed but doesn't restrict the torque...maybe that's wrong?

 

[PDub88]

Hmm, I don’t know. Maybe you are right. I was under the impression that the lower the number, the lower the torque output. I’m not sure if the backlight stays on or not.


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[theoldwizard1]

Not what you want to hear ... Eric O. on the YouTube South Main Auto channel has been using a 1/2" HF gun for about a year. This is primary tool, so it gets used multiple time a day, every work day. On occasion he has to go back to a big pneumatic impact wrench.

 

[Mr_B]

Main trouble with the battery impacts besides the size is piss poor throttle control and not enough power steps .
amount of daily used milwaukees I seen go for repair is quite high, considering the price and fact most pro's in a shop with airline already at their feet I don't see the real need mess about with plastic battery guns ... Great when mobile or some underhood or in cabin work but also great for breaking fasteners and causing you roll off fastener head as bulky tool forcing you use extensions swivels at poor angles .

 

[Mr_B]

Not what you want to hear ... Eric O. on the YouTube South Main Auto channel has been using a 1/2" HF gun for about a year. This is primary tool, so it gets used multiple time a day, every work day. On occasion he has to go back to a big pneumatic impact wrench.

He went back to his nano a lot as craze wore off of squeezing that brick about the job .
They handy but not as handy in a real world shop as hype suggests .

 

[D45]

I just bought a 2681-20 for $105 shipped

Excited to finally get one and try it out

 

[Professional Tool User]

Wow that's a good price, especially that is comes with w battery and charger

The power rating on that one is not that impressive.

 

[Tonyuk]

Yeah I have the high torque and the 3/8 compact. I use the compact on everything except my diesel. Even then it only hits once or twice. Then I torque by hand. The low torque setting is just to slow.

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Just keep it on full power and use a torque stick?

The larger high-torque impacts are pretty heavy, i wouldn't want to use one for the best part of a day, i keep it on my cart in case the compact doesn't have enough power and i don't want to go and pull the air hose over.

I keep the mid-torque at home, its the same size as my large air impact in work but not as powerful, useful if you don't have a decent air compressor though.

 

[bubinga]

I was tempted to get one of those just because they are priced right and they look pretty cool. But I have a corded 1/2 inch impact and I normally only use it in the garage anyway, so a cordless one is not something that I really need to have.

I "Had" the DeWalt 18 Volt Ni-cad 3/8" drive impact with Hog Ring.
Stolen and Or sent out, and then Stolen (traded for Drugs)
I don't know about for Lug Nuts, But remember a time I tightened down the top shock bolt on My Sportster.
Followed up "testing" with a 1/2" drive 15" breaker bar.
That bolt was good and tight!
Wish I still Had that impact. .

 

[Lisamelting]

I can't speak for the automotive guys, but in an industrial setting, air tools are going the way of the dinosaur. The new shop is just about set up. We have three 75 HP compressors, a 500 gallon tank and 6 inch main air lines to feed the equipment.

Enough air to run as many tools as anyone could possibly want. But there is not a single air tool to be found. It's all cordless.

 

[D45]

I just bought a 2681-20 for $105 shipped

Excited to finally get one and try it out

With the 5.0 battery, this impact is awesome

I tried it with the 4.0 and 3.0 and it still works very well

Very pleased with it!

It is small enough to not be bulky, but large enough of a size that is feels very solid and well built

•Delivers up to 450 ft. lbs. of fastening torque
•Delivers up to 600 ft. lbs. of nut-busting torque
•POWERSTATE brushless motor outperforms all leading competitors
•Part of the M18 system of 175+ tools
•REDLINK PLUS intelligence prevents damage to the tool and battery due to overloading or overheating
•REDLITHIUM batteries deliver more work per charge and more work over the life of the battery
•3-mode drive control provides greater control over output speed and power with a max RPM of 2,400
•Compact length at 6.7 in. to allow for more access in tight spaces
•Lightweight tool at 5.3 lbs. with 5.0Ah battery for less fatigue
•Improved rubber over-mold to withstand corrosive materials
•LED light
•Utilizes a friction ring design to ensure quick and easy socket changes

 

[FTG-05]

Just keep it on full power and use a torque stick?

The larger high-torque impacts are pretty heavy, i wouldn't want to use one for the best part of a day, i keep it on my cart in case the compact doesn't have enough power and i don't want to go and pull the air hose over.

I keep the mid-torque at home, its the same size as my large air impact in work but not as powerful, useful if you don't have a decent air compressor though.

Hopefully, not a hijack, but: How do torque sticks work? Are the HF versions any good and/or worth it? I'm a hobbyist.

Thanks,

 

[WWheeler]

Hopefully, not a hijack, but: How do torque sticks work? Are the HF versions any good and/or worth it? I'm a hobbyist.

Thanks,

They are supposed to work by flexing at the rated torque like a torsion bar.

I have the HF torque stick set years ago but I don't trust them. I think better sets come with instructions or a method for calibrating them for use with an impact at a set pressure, etc, but the HF one I got sure didn't. I only use the two smallest green and black torque sticks from the HF set. Iirc they are 65 & 75 ft lbs respectively. I use either one of them on air or cordless just to snug lugnuts up then I finish with a torque wrench.

 

[impactsocket]

The Craftsman 1/2" 19.2V Impact Wrench (300 ft./lbs. of torque) is on sale for $129.99. I did not see anyone buy or even look at this over priced impact wrench on Black Friday morning.

But the Ryobi 1/2" Impact Wrench (300 ft./lbs. of torque) is on sale for $99.99. It is $30.00 cheaper than the Craftsman. Some lucky garagejournal members got this impact wrench for just $70 and a few for $50 in April 2018.

The Ridgid 18-Volt Lithium-Ion Cordless Brushless (450 ft./lbs. of torque) is $159 but has 150 ft./lbs. more torque than the Craftsman and Ryobi.

300 ft./lbs. of torque is just not enough with rusted fasteners and when you use extentions.

TTI is the maker of Milwaukee, Ridgid, Ryobi, and Craftsman cordless tools.

 

[G1GRANDEUR]

for the price and warranty, i think you can't go wrong with the Ridgid.

if i ever needed one, that is what i would get.

 

[Voi]

I'm pretty sure the brushless Ridgid is available as a free tool if you buy the $199 drill and impact driver kit.

Similar deal as the Ryobi but when it comes to the wrench specifically the Ridgid gets better reviews.

 

[impactsocket]

The problem is the Craftsman and Ryobi only has 300 ft./lbs. of torque. The Craftsman and Ryobi are already 4 years old and need to be upgraded. The Ridgid has 150 ft./lbs. more torque than the Craftsman and Ryobi.

 

[Jack Olsen]

I wanted a second one, and got the newer-generation Ridgid. My old one has a lifetime warranty on both the impact wrench and its batteries. Now they both do.

 

[Yarpo]

I can't speak for the automotive guys, but in an industrial setting, air tools are going the way of the dinosaur. The new shop is just about set up. We have three 75 HP compressors, a 500 gallon tank and 6 inch main air lines to feed the equipment.

Enough air to run as many tools as anyone could possibly want. But there is not a single air tool to be found. It's all cordless.

I just took a new job and the boss asked if I had cordless tools, told him they where all Milwaukee and he was pleased. I kinda got to talking to him about it and he HATES the sound of air tools. Three techs there now and none of them use air tools. Pretty crazy. They've got two air impacts in the shop. One tiny one for crank bolts since itll squeeze by the radiator and one 3/4 for large stuff, but neither see much use anymore.