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1/2" drive, should I bother with regular sockets?

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Should I even bother with regular sockets for 1/2" drive? I am thinking I should just get impact sockets because the only time I think I will be needing 1/2" is for larger more stubborn jobs. I will mostly be using them on a breaker bar, and a torque wrench. So I am thinking I should just skip regular and go impact.

Does this make sense, or am I missing another purpose for regular 1/2" sockets?
 
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Your arrangement of sockets and drive sizes needs to suit what your personal preferences are. I am drifting into drive size to match the expected torque, so I have a LOT of 1/4 drive sockets, universals, etc. where I don't expect to ever have a lot of torque applied. Big torque I start with the highest expected torque sizes and build my collection down in 1/2" drive.

No point in my mind for 1/4 drive impacts, but I have a few, not a lot of point for non impact in 1/2 drive, but I have a full set (thats how I bought them). Impact swivels I decided to use 3/8" drive.
 

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i have both impact and chrome.. however my chromes are 12 point at the sae token... i do not have a 3/8 impact wrench yet... so this is what i have... same token you have a better chance of breaking something using the 3/8 sockets with an adaptor as mentioned in other post

at the same token, i do find y self grabing my 3/8 drive items the most as they usually have the best crossection of sizes in a set..
 

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I kept mine as they used to have 12 pt bolt heads. Ford on the drive line they make specialty impacts for these.
I don't use them much but their are times I need them. Volvo 960 head bolts use a chrome six point because only a Mac impact will fit in the hole.
 

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I have both 1/2 in chrome and impact. I would say that most of the time an impact socket is going to work for what you are doing. The impact is more expensive and more useful so IF money permits that is where I would start. I only have 12pt chrome 1/2 in sockets. I have rarely ran into a situation where I wished I had 6 point. I think that if money is tight after getting a decent impact set, go to Sears and buy there deep set. I think it only costs $100 or so and for the short term they will work out fine.
 

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I think you might be looking at the whole issue wrong. If you assess what your intentions are as far as how much you intend to work on stuff throughout the course of your lifetime honestly you will come to the conclusion that like as not as long as you are working on stuff, you will always be buying and adding more tools to your collection on an ongoing basis. At least that was what I determined at around 16 yrs of age, I am 47 and I have never totally stopped adding tools to what I have. The more tools you add the more complex projects you will find you are comfortable tackling.

Following my logic I have never made a goal of making my tools all one brand or another, there are many I like so I have saved a lot by knowing when I am looking at good quality tools, knowing good brands, having a good sense of used worth, etc.

The bottom line being if you are serious about doing a lot of mechanical work I will never understand how guys can only buy metric tools and no standard, or vise verse. I want to know that whatever I choose to drag home (within reason) that for the most part I will be well equipped to deal with it be it foreign (metric) domestic (standard) very old (8pt sockets) or big stuff (3/4" set) I think you should develop a plan for buying all the tools (yes chromes and impacts) you could reasonably need to get the work done.

If you put yourself in a little box regarding the range of tools available to you in your box, the jobs you take on will be limited to your limited range of tools as well! So plan on buying both and just keep on adding, they don't always have to be new and shiny, or the very best brand, the more tools you buy, the more you will begin to see the whole issue more clearly.
 

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I think value wise 99.9% of standard length socket needs could be covered by 12pt. in chrome for access and odd fasteners and 6pt impacts for torque, impact and like. In fact I do not even have chrome 1/2 drive deep sockets and never has a need.
 
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I really like Uncle Buck's take on this subject. And now that I have thought about it a little longer I agree with what he is saying. Mostly because these tools are going to be for my job. And on said job I will encounter many different situations.
 

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Should I even bother with regular sockets for 1/2" drive? I am thinking I should just get impact sockets because the only time I think I will be needing 1/2" is for larger more stubborn jobs. I will mostly be using them on a breaker bar, and a torque wrench. So I am thinking I should just skip regular and go impact.

Does this make sense, or am I missing another purpose for regular 1/2"

sockets?

I use a 3/8 to 1/2 adapter to use the 1/2 sockets in cramped spaces they are stronger than the 3/8 . I mostly uses my 1/2 impact sockets to loosen the tightest bolts and nuts since they are well built and strong.

I like using my 1/2 sets in working in trucks and big old american cars.
 

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Should I even bother with regular sockets for 1/2" drive? I am thinking I should just get impact sockets because the only time I think I will be needing 1/2" is for larger more stubborn jobs. I will mostly be using them on a breaker bar, and a torque wrench. So I am thinking I should just skip regular and go impact.

Does this make sense, or am I missing another purpose for regular 1/2" sockets?

You shall NEVER use impact sockets when using breaker bar. The impact sockets are softer,(for absorbing the "shocks" from the impact wrench) and when pulling a stubborn bolt with breaker bar, the chrome sockets are "stronger" for those "slow" pulls. Especially the thin wall impacts are no good when it comes to pulling with breaker bar.
A standard 21mm impact are supposed to withstand 1560Nm, and a thin wall 21mm impact only withstand 700Nm
Impact sockets are for use with impact tools, hence the name........
 
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Should I even bother with regular sockets for 1/2" drive? I am thinking I should just get impact sockets because the only time I think I will be needing 1/2" is for larger more stubborn jobs. I will mostly be using them on a breaker bar, and a torque wrench. So I am thinking I should just skip regular and go impact.

Does this make sense, or am I missing another purpose for regular 1/2" sockets?

This is exactly what I've always done. So I say it makes sense:thumbup:
 

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You shall NEVER use impact sockets when using breaker bar. The impact sockets are softer,(for absorbing the "shocks" from the impact wrench) and when pulling a stubborn bolt with breaker bar, the chrome sockets are "stronger" for those "slow" pulls. Especially the thin wall impacts are no good when it comes to pulling with breaker bar.
A standard 21mm impact are supposed to withstand 1560Nm, and a thin wall 21mm impact only withstand 700Nm
Impact sockets are for use with impact tools, hence the name........

Nope! I disagree. Impact sockets are not "softer", they are just more "maleable", meaning they are not brittle, and will deform rather than shatter when pushed beyond their limits. In fact impact sockets undergo much more force with phuematic tools than you can ever put on them with your hands. So it's fair to say they are actually stronger if not at least just as strong. I'll take and impact socket for hand use anyday, and have many times for years. As far as thin-walled sockets go, they will be weaker than thick walled no matter if they are impact or non-impact.
 
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I think you might be looking at the whole issue wrong. If you assess what your intentions are as far as how much you intend to work on stuff throughout the course of your lifetime honestly you will come to the conclusion that like as not as long as you are working on stuff, you will always be buying and adding more tools to your collection on an ongoing basis. At least that was what I determined at around 16 yrs of age, I am 47 and I have never totally stopped adding tools to what I have. The more tools you add the more complex projects you will find you are comfortable tackling.

Following my logic I have never made a goal of making my tools all one brand or another, there are many I like so I have saved a lot by knowing when I am looking at good quality tools, knowing good brands, having a good sense of used worth, etc.

The bottom line being if you are serious about doing a lot of mechanical work I will never understand how guys can only buy metric tools and no standard, or vise verse. I want to know that whatever I choose to drag home (within reason) that for the most part I will be well equipped to deal with it be it foreign (metric) domestic (standard) very old (8pt sockets) or big stuff (3/4" set) I think you should develop a plan for buying all the tools (yes chromes and impacts) you could reasonably need to get the work done.

If you put yourself in a little box regarding the range of tools available to you in your box, the jobs you take on will be limited to your limited range of tools as well! So plan on buying both and just keep on adding, they don't always have to be new and shiny, or the very best brand, the more tools you buy, the more you will begin to see the whole issue more clearly.

I'd say this is very sound advise. Especially the second paragraph.
 

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I am a import car owner, specifically Toyota and Honda.

Most of my repairs are done using 3/8 drive sockets using Standard length and Deep Length socket depths.

I find the different depths, sizes of sockets (impact & chrome: 1/4, 3/8, 1/2), universal sockets, extensions and crowsfoot are needed when access space are minimal such as firewall to engine.

As for me I have Snap On Chrome Sockets and Matco Impact Sockets in Deep, mid length and Standard Lengths. Also in different drive sizes to accomodate any configuration I am in need of.

My conclusion: It is overkill, but for me it is a piece of mind that wins out.
 
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