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1/4” Flex-Head Ratchets: Matco vs. Snap-On

CGarage

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The plate affects the slop in the anvil. Every Matco 88T and GW 90T ratchet I've handled, more than a few, have had noticeable play/slop in the anvil. Every SO Dual 80 that I've handled, again more than a few, have had no play/slop in the anvil. The SO plate, secured by screws, is a superior and more rigid securing method for the ratchet internals. I have SO's new locking flex head, and it's far superior to it's earlier version.


I believe the small amount of play/slop in the anvil is necessary to allow the lever to lock and unlock the ratchet’s flex head.
 
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The Critic

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The plate affects the slop in the anvil. Every Matco 88T and GW 90T ratchet I've handled, more than a few, have had noticeable play/slop in the anvil. Every SO Dual 80 that I've handled, again more than a few, have had no play/slop in the anvil. The SO plate, secured by screws, is a superior and more rigid securing method for the ratchet internals. I have SO's new locking flex head, and it's far superior to it's earlier version.
This. I just received my 1/4" Matco ratchet and noticed this. Rebuilding it with 3/8" guts results in the same. My Gearwrench 120xp has the same slop.

In comparison, all of my Dual 80's (and 72's) have a minimal amount of slop. I wonder if it is due to the Dual Pawl design?
 

demarpaint

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This. I just received my 1/4" Matco ratchet and noticed this. Rebuilding it with 3/8" guts results in the same. My Gearwrench 120xp has the same slop.

In comparison, all of my Dual 80's (and 72's) have a minimal amount of slop. I wonder if it is due to the Dual Pawl design?
IMO the SO is a better design, and the screw on plate vs, the retaining ring accounts for it having less slop.
 

Tallpilot

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SnapOn 1/4" is now Dual 80.
I know what they call them but I like truth in advertising, that's why I call them Dual-72.

Did they need the lower tooth count for strength? Would they be as smooth as 3/8 and 1/2 drive if they had 8 more teeth on the gear?

I don't think they are bad ratchets, they just don't feel as good as the others and I've always wondered why. Just like I wonder why they don't make a long locking flex.
 
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