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I used mostly Spax and GRK because I can't stand low quality hardware.

I have a need for 1.5" and 2" full thread pan head screws, but I can't find any.

Does anyone know where I can find really good quality screws that match these specs?

Thank you!

Joseph
 
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Unlikely, But to know for sure try McMaster-Carr. If they don't have them they don't exist which wouldn't be surprising since what you're asking for is normally a sheet metal screw and nobody uses 2" long sheet metal screws.
 
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I buy hardware from Mcmaster, they're decent quality for the most part. Mostly made in USA or Taiwan Mcmaster usually doesn't sell junk. They have 10-24 & 10-32 pan head screws in those lengths fully threaded in both steel & SS.
 
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josephny said:
I used mostly Spax and GRK because I can't stand low quality hardware.

I have a need for 1.5" and 2" full thread pan head screws, but I can't find any.

Does anyone know where I can find really good quality screws that match these specs?

Thank you!

Joseph
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Ugh!

I’m so sorry. I forgot to specify that I’m looking for wood screws.
 
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I've ordered from Mcfeely a couple of times in the past and have been pleased with the quality and pricing. They have such a wide selection of sizes, materials and driver heads that you can't find any where else. really good quality.
 
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DHCrocks said:
I've ordered from Mcfeely a couple of times in the past and have been pleased with the quality and pricing. They have such a wide selection of sizes, materials and driver heads that you can't find any where else. really good quality.
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I looked at McFeelys web page and to my surprise it is about 15 miles from my house! I will have to check them out the next time that I am nearby. Thanks DHCrocks
 
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theoldwizard1 said:
Most places call those "sheet metal" screws.
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I don't claim to have any expertise whatsoever with screws (or anything, actually), but aren't the threads very different for wood?

Indeed, different screws designated as wood screws have different thread characteristics. That's one thing I like about Spax and GRK.

Or maybe they're called sheet metal screws because they're a good way to screw sheet metal onto a piece of wood?

It's amazing how every thing down to the finest detail has an enormous about of design, physics, engineering, and real world feedback behind it.
 
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Sheet metal screws typically are mostly straight, wood are supposed to have more of a taper, and often a smooth shank near the head.

For stuff that doesn’t matter, I use sheet metal screws, like mounting brackets through drywall in the garage. Fine furniture, not so much.

Just used #12 x2” sheet metal screws to attach a clamp rack.
 
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RTM said:
Sheet metal screws typically are mostly straight, wood are supposed to have more of a taper, and often a smooth shank near the head.

For stuff that doesn’t matter, I use sheet metal screws, like mounting brackets through drywall in the garage. Fine furniture, not so much.

Just used #12 x2” sheet metal screws to attach a clamp rack.
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True. However, wood screws don't traditionally come in pan head. Pan head screws are generally sheet metal screws. Also, traditional tapered wood screws are never fully threaded. So if you want a fully threaded screw, you are limited to either very short screws, or sheet metal screws which have a thread that does a good job engaging in wood. i.e. the OP's request is nonsense.

Anyway, the traditional method of have a pan like head on a wood screw is to use a flat head screw with a finishing washer.
 
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rlitman said:
Anyway, the traditional method of have a pan like head on a wood screw is to use a flat head screw with a finishing washer.
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Or an oval head with a trim or finish washer, depending on where in the country you’re from. Oval seem to look better, IMO.
 
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josephny said:
I don't claim to have any expertise whatsoever with screws (or anything, actually), but aren't the threads very different for wood?
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Older wood screws had a tapered shank and were not threaded all the way. Most commonly flat countersunk heads.

The screws most commonly used these days do not have tapered shanks.

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Indeed, different screws designated as wood screws have different thread characteristics.
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Not an expert either, but I use these "sheet metal" screws (that is what is on the box when I buy them from a fastener store) for wood projects. Typically #8 or #10 or #12, 1"-3". I buy a box (25, 50 or 100 depending on size) and keep them in my stash.

When you need to hang something not too heavy from a cement or block or brick wall, good old plastic wall anchors work well. I really like these Red Head Poly Set Anchors.

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Lets say you want to hang a French cleat on a concrete wall. Temporarily brace your 1by on the wall in the proper loaction, drill the appropriate number of holes for the load, insert the ploy anchor and install the screws. The stupid thing is the screws they give you assume you are mounting something thin, so for a 1by you would need a 2-1/4" #12.
 
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Thank you all for the comments on screws.

I use pan hand, full thread wood screws to attach things like metal shelf brackets (1/16-1/4" thick steel) to wood (that is between 1 and 2" thick).

So, my needs, as best I can determine, for this include:
1) Full thread to hold on to as much of the wood as possible, given nearly all of the screw will be in the wood.
2) Pan head so the screw sits flat (and holds well) against the flat metal.

My understanding is that the only head types that sit flush are pan, round and button, and that any other type (flat, bugle or oval, for example) would not work well with a washer.

Is this all "nonsense?" (;-)
 
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Bugle is meant for dimpling sheetrock. Flat and oval work well With finishing washers, or countersinks.
 
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rlitman said:
Bugle is meant for dimpling sheetrock. Flat and oval work well With finishing washers, or countersinks.
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I've never worked with finishing washers (except when they come along with hardware for a particular product).

My limited experience is that they are usually quite thin metal and seem to rely on the shape to provide its structural stability.

Am I right to be concerned about the holding strength of a flat head screw with finishing washer vs. a pan head screw?

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another great place to get screws is quickscrews. and another thing to consider, similar to many GRK are 'washer head' screws. May find, full thread or not (less important for wood than metal anyway) that these are as good as (in some applications) or better than (in others) pan head screws for wood projects including mounting things to a studded wall.
 
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I do have some washer heads by GRK and they are great.

But when I'm attaching something to a 1" thick piece of wood, I think the full thread is important and I don't see GRKs with full thread.

Thanks!
 
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