10 ton Blackhawk jack thoughts.

[Garage Junky]

I need a new jack for the garage and wouldn't mind a small project if it means getting an older, quality USA made jack.

There is one about 2 hours away from me on CL. The owner told me it's a Blackhawk and is going to see if he can find the model # (no response yet). It doesn't currently stay up so a rebuild is probably in order.

I'm wondering if anyone knows how to date it... I really like the older ones and this one doesn't have the same art deco style I've seen so often on this board and may be too young to be vintage, making it just plain old. It still seems like a good deal as similar looking ones sell for $900+ new online.

Looking for your expertise on: age, whether its worth the asking price and the long drive, model #, rebuild kit cost.

Here's a link to the ad.

http://toledo.craigslist.org/tls/4471569860.html

Thanks in advance,
mike

 

[zkling]

My thoughts? Those are a massive jack for general daily driver use. Their minimum height can be a bit limiting to reach needed spots, even on non sporty vehicles. If you primarily work on trucks or the like, that probably isn't an issue, but something to keep in mind.

I will agree on that it is not THAT old, I want to guess 70's-80's. Heads up a rebuild kit is >$100 so keep that in mind. If you do go and check it out, check over the hard parts including the ram. If all it really needs is a seal kit, that is one thing, but hard parts start to add up and can be a pain to find at times. Just my 2¢

 

[Garage Junky]

Thanks for the info. I have trucks so clearance isn't an issue. The >$100 rebuild kit on the other hand might be.

 

[zkling]

Thanks for the info. I have trucks so clearance isn't an issue. The >$100 rebuild kit on the other hand might be.

Why? It's not like the smaller 2-4 ton units where there are alot of other options out there on the new, cheap market. If you really need a 10ton jack, The ~$300 invested for a like new machine wouldn't be terrible. But then again if you don't really NEED a 10T unit, well there are probably other options.

 

[Garage Junky]

I don't really NEED a 10T jack. I just figured if it cost the same why the heck not, but factoring in the drive (I'm lazy) plus the rebuild I think I might be better off just waiting for something more local to pop up in the 3-4T range.

I seem to be having the NEED vs WANT talk a lot with the GF

 

[Garage Junky]

FYI model # is SJ4.05A-5 from the ID tag.

 

[1930artdeco]

Here is a thought, $100 for a solid American made 10T jack plus maybe a $100 rebuild and a two hour drive which will outlast your kids. Or, same amount of money for a 3-4 T Chinese made jack that will last a few years. Even if you bought a new American made jack in the 10t range it will cost WAY more than this one.

Just my thoughts. Always go big and powerful for tools-it is the American way

Mike

 

[Hiball]

FYI model # is SJ4.05A-5 from the ID tag.

Sure about that Model Number? That should be a 4 ton model based off the Number.

 

[Strouty]

It looks small for a 10 ton, I also have no experience with older blackhawks, but my 5 ton was a couple feet bigger and the 10 tons I have seen were bigger still.

 

[Farmall450]

Here is a thought, $100 for a solid American made 10T jack plus maybe a $100 rebuild and a two hour drive which will outlast your kids. Or, same amount of money for a 3-4 T Chinese made jack that will last a few years. Even if you bought a new American made jack in the 10t range it will cost WAY more than this one.

Just my thoughts. Always go big and powerful for tools-it is the American way

Mike

I concur.

 

[Garage Junky]

Looks like you guys are right. Seller said he 'thought' it was a 10-ton, but I've got to go with Hiball the expert on this. Guess I will pass on this one. Just found a decent 2 ton vintage Weaver close by that I'll try to snag this weekend instead.

Thanks for the help all!

 

[dlcwent]

Sure about that Model Number? That should be a 4 ton model based off the Number.

It looks small for a 10 ton, I also have no experience with older blackhawks, but my 5 ton was a couple feet bigger and the 10 tons I have seen were bigger still.

These guys are right ...I'm rebuilding a s4 right now.All my research tells me that's a 4 ton jack

 

[Hiball]

Looks like you guys are right. Seller said he 'thought' it was a 10-ton, but I've got to go with Hiball the expert on this. Guess I will pass on this one. Just found a decent 2 ton vintage Weaver close by that I'll try to snag this weekend instead.

Thanks for the help all!

I'm definitely not a fan of the hydraulic design ( sj4), IMO it has too much going on. I'm not sure how "Vintage" the weaver is, but its hands down a better design/product if it will fit your lifting needs.

 

[Garage Junky]

So I tried following up a CL lead on a 2 ton Weaver... number disconnected. CL taketh away but also giveth back! I found a 4 ton model with a john deere paint scheme not too far away. Picked it up this morning for $100. It's got a few issues but lifts and stays up, at least under the light load I tested.

Off the bat I noticed:
1) Missing a cotter pin on one of the front support arms for the saddle - no big deal.
2) Linkage in the back seems to be missing a spring possibly but definitely has a small metal bracket that is cracked and will need welding or possibly replacing.

Pics to come later today.

Thanks all, especially Hiball, for steering me towards the Weaver. It's going to be my first hydraulic rebuild so starting with a simple design should help. Hope I didn't bite off more than I can chew.

Mike

 

[Hiball]

So I tried following up a CL lead on a 2 ton Weaver... number disconnected. CL taketh away but also giveth back! I found a 4 ton model with a john deere paint scheme not too far away. Picked it up this morning for $100. It's got a few issues but lifts and stays up, at least under the light load I tested.

Off the bat I noticed:
1) Missing a cotter pin on one of the front support arms for the saddle - no big deal.
2) Linkage in the back seems to be missing a spring possibly but definitely has a small metal bracket that is cracked and will need welding or possibly replacing.

Pics to come later today.

Thanks all, especially Hiball, for steering me towards the Weaver. It's going to be my first hydraulic rebuild so starting with a simple design should help. Hope I didn't bite off more than I can chew.

Mike

Castle equipment for any and all parts /seal kits/drawings, I suspect you are referencing the foot pedal return spring as it has a little bracket that holds spring tension to keep the pedal up.

 

[Garage Junky]

Castle equipment for any and all parts /seal kits/drawings, I suspect you are referencing the foot pedal return spring as it has a little bracket that holds spring tension to keep the pedal up.

Yes, sir! Damn you're good! I'll check out castle equipment tonight. Thanks.