100w Light Bulb Ban

[Kentuckian]

Have you bought your supply of 100w light bulbs yet? As of January 1, 2012 stores are banned from selling 100w incandescent light bulbs in the United States. Although I do not use that many 100w light bulbs around my place, I decided to get me a supply that will probably last me the rest of my life.

75w bulbs will be banned 1/1/2013. Then 60w and 40w bulbs leave on 1/1/2014.

 

[jkeyser14]

Have you bought your supply of 100w light bulbs yet? As of January 1, 2012 stores are banned from selling 100w incandescent light bulbs in the United States. Although I do not use that many 100w light bulbs around my place, I decided to get me a supply that will probably last me the rest of my life.

75w bulbs will be banned 1/1/2013. Then 60w and 40w bulbs leave on 1/1/2014.

Before everyone rushes out and buys energy wasting bulbs, you should do some research. There are more efficient replacements on the way that don't look like **** or contain mercury. For example, Vu1 has ESL technology which is just hitting the market. Their R30 bulbs will be sold at Lowes starting in February. On top of that they have an A19 bulb (typical incandescent bulb) already UL tested and approved that they will be releasing in about 6 months.

And LEDs, while still expensive, are getting better in cost and color output every day. So why use an inefficient lightbulb whose technology is over 100 years old?

 

[olytdi]

Not only that, the US is pretty late coming to the party. The phase-out has been well underway in nearly every corner of the world since the middle of the last decade. There are definite upsides globally, and some downsides that look like they'll be short-lived. All in all and over the long haul, I think it will be a good thing. Perhaps in thirty years, people will reminisce over those cute old fashions light bulbs with the squiggly spiral tubes....This is a change-averse nation and undoubtedly many will go through change kicking and screaming.

 

[Mike in Ohio]

So why use an inefficient lightbulb whose technology is over 100 years old?[/QUOTE]

UH, because they are inexpensive and they work!!!!

 

[Kentuckian]

So why use an inefficient lightbulb whose technology is over 100 years old?

UH, because they are inexpensive and they work!!!![/QUOTE]

Bingo! That's right. Since a box of 8 100w bulbs only cost me $2.89, I bought several boxes. And when one burns out...I can just throw it in the garbage can.

 

[Knuckle Buster]

UH, because they are inexpensive and they work!!!!

Bingo! That's right. Since a box of 8 100w bulbs only cost me $2.89, I bought several boxes. And when one burns out...I can just throw it in the garbage can.[/QUOTE]

Amen brother

 

[sxk122]

and when my squiggly light containing mercury burns out, i throw it away and buy another $8 bulb....

DOH!

 

[PrecisionTools]

Sounds like you are all a bit behind the world in another area too - power costs!

 

[Knuckle Buster]

I put in six sockets in my hillbilly shop 9 years ago and screwed a 150w extended service incandescent bulb in each one of them. In 9 years of 6-8 hour daily/nightly use I've only had to replace one bulb so far. What is the life of the new bulbs? And do they REALLY put out the light I'm used to.. without having to add more light fixtures, or change to a different type of fixtures?

 

[Senorpablo]

So why use an inefficient lightbulb whose technology is over 100 years old?

UH, because they are inexpensive and they work!!!![/QUOTE]

This is why the government has to mandate things. You THINK regular bulbs are less expensive--and they are if you never actually feed electricity to them--but they're not.

If you take into account the electricity needed to run the bulbs, the new bulbs are far less expensive in the long run.

 

[Kentuckian]

I'm so glad YOU will be saving all that money.

 

[chickenhauler]

I don't buy 100 watt bulbs often, but they do have a use. Squiggly bulbs don't warm the chicken coop or keep the gas regulator from freezing up. Just put in my order at 1000bulbs.

 

[Mike in Ohio]

UH, because they are inexpensive and they work!!!!

This is why the government has to mandate things. You THINK regular bulbs are less expensive--and they are if you never actually feed electricity to them--but they're not.

If you take into account the electricity needed to run the bulbs, the new bulbs are far less expensive in the long run.[/QUOTE]

It is not the governments job to tell me what light bulb or any other product I should use.

I put 2 of the cfl bulbs into the fixture in the room I am sitting in right now to replace the 60 watt bulbs that were in there. There is noticeably less light in this room than before. I also replaced the bulbs in the kitchen with the cfls. Now I will see if they actually save me any money, and then I will decide if the alleged savings are worth the light fixtures putting out less light. At this point having less light is very annoying, so the savings better be substantial to justify the inconvenience.

 

[boostedgt]

60" tv's are fine but ban 100w lightbulbs!

 

[Knuckle Buster]

This is why the government has to mandate things. You THINK regular bulbs are less expensive--and they are if you never actually feed electricity to them--but they're not.

If you take into account the electricity needed to run the bulbs, the new bulbs are far less expensive in the long run.

It is not the governments job to tell me what light bulb or any other product I should use.

I put 2 of the cfl bulbs into the fixture in the room I am sitting in right now to replace the 60 watt bulbs that were in there. There is noticeably less light in this room than before. I also replaced the bulbs in the kitchen with the cfls. Now I will see if they actually save me any money, and then I will decide if the alleged savings are worth the light fixtures putting out less light. At this point having less light is very annoying, so the savings better be substantial to justify the inconvenience.[/QUOTE]


That aswered my question. Doesn't sound like they are worth the change over, in my case.

 

[boostedgt]

i changed to cfl's in most places but i need regular lights in the bathroom, i want instant bright light for shaving and dumping

 

[bazzateer]

i changed to cfl's in most places but i need regular lights in the bathroom, i want instant bright light for shaving and dumping

You must have a huge bathroom if you can't find the toilet in dim light!

 

[boostedgt]

You must have a huge bathroom if you can't find the toilet in dim light!

i just dont like pooping in low light levels

 

[browntown]

With the exception of one chandelier on a dimmer, I think every light I have in this house is now fluorescent. My electricity is through a co-op which sent us free cfl's including the flood light type for all the pot lights in the house. As the old ones burn out, I've replaced them with cfls.
The light is much whiter, but is less bright subjectively. I'm just cheap and lazy. Power company sent me free bulbs that supposedly last longer, and I rather use them than buy new. Plus it seems like the "green" thing to do, even though there is heavy metals in those bulbs.

 

[Shadowdog500]

You must have a huge bathroom if you can't find the toilet in dim light!

Wonder if it has one of those government mandated water saver toilets that you have to flush three times to get it to work.

Chris

 

[Senorpablo]

This is why the government has to mandate things. You THINK regular bulbs are less expensive--and they are if you never actually feed electricity to them--but they're not.

If you take into account the electricity needed to run the bulbs, the new bulbs are far less expensive in the long run.

It is not the governments job to tell me what light bulb or any other product I should use.

I put 2 of the cfl bulbs into the fixture in the room I am sitting in right now to replace the 60 watt bulbs that were in there. There is noticeably less light in this room than before. I also replaced the bulbs in the kitchen with the cfls. Now I will see if they actually save me any money, and then I will decide if the alleged savings are worth the light fixtures putting out less light. At this point having less light is very annoying, so the savings better be substantial to justify the inconvenience.

Well, that's your opinion and you're certainly entitled to that. If it was up to you, we'd probably still have asbestos on the market and cars without 3 point seat belts.

The problem is, there's a whole country filled with people like you who apparently don't get it. You'd rather pay $.60 for a light bulb and spend $36 per year using it, than $2 for a bulb which puts out the same amount of light for $12 per year. That doesn't even take into account that CFL's last longer.

You're wasting electricity for no benefit, and you're driving up the price of oil and gasoline--for everyone--while doing so. So, yes, it is the governments job to tell you what to do--they're protecting me from people like you, and they're helping you at the same time, though you may not fully understand it.

Why is it that no commercial buildings or large companies have used incandescent lighting for decades? Because it doesn't make any financial sense. It doesn't make any sense for you either.

Go out and stockpile your energy hogging bulbs if you want to, I don't care. The bottom line is, most folks will just buy what's available to them, and in the end the country will be saving a substantial amount of energy in the process--with or without you.

 

[1948]

so like, this week, on days of our lives......

 

[StaggeringGoat]

I put 2 of the cfl bulbs into the fixture in the room I am sitting in right now to replace the 60 watt bulbs that were in there. There is noticeably less light in this room than before.

You clearly chose the wrong bulbs. Don't blame user error on fluorescents. Far too many people do that....

 

[ajchien]

Are halogens banned too?

 

[78 bronco]

Well, that's your opinion and you're certainly entitled to that. If it was up to you, we'd probably still have asbestos on the market and cars without 3 point seat belts.

The problem is, there's a whole country filled with people like you who apparently don't get it. You'd rather pay $.60 for a light bulb and spend $36 per year using it, than $2 for a bulb which puts out the same amount of light for $12 per year. That doesn't even take into account that CFL's last longer.

You're wasting electricity for no benefit, and you're driving up the price of oil and gasoline--for everyone--while doing so. So, yes, it is the governments job to tell you what to do--they're protecting me from people like you, and they're helping you at the same time, though you may not fully understand it.

Why is it that no commercial buildings or large companies have used incandescent lighting for decades? Because it doesn't make any financial sense. It doesn't make any sense for you either.

Go out and stockpile your energy hogging bulbs if you want to, I don't care. The bottom line is, most folks will just buy what's available to them, and in the end the country will be saving a substantial amount of energy in the process--with or without you.

wow can hardly tell you are from Commiefornia.

 

[dadsEH]

and dont forget to get a few more rolls of tin foil while you are out picking up the 100 watters!!!

 

[cak446]

Around here, for at least 7 months of the year the extra heat from an incandescent light isn't wasted. It helps heat the house.

I agree using incandescent lights is a waste of money, in warmer areas where air conditioning is being used, but around here the cost savings isn't all it's hyped up to be.

I use cfl lights in my house, that is heated with natural gas. I also use them in the garage in the summer time. However in the winter I switch back to incandescent in my out door lights and garage since the cfl's take way to long to put out any usful light when it's well below freezing.

Any working bulb that I have replaced with a cfl, goes out to our farm house that is heated with electric heat. As any extra energy wasted from the bulbs, equally reduces the heat needed from the electric baseboards.

 

[sdowney717]

Say you dropped and broke a cfl bulb on the kitchen floor.
Calling the hazmat team in for a cleanup will quickly eliminate any savings from using the bulb. When the bulbs drop and break they volatize mercury which you breathe in and get brain damaged and start talking and walking funny.
The helping hand of the government is at work in your life more and more. It is for your
own good since you dont know how to help yourself and they know better and want to control all aspects.

And then there is the big one that they do not talk about. What happens if one of the compact fluorescent bulbs breaks? Do you realize that you cannot simply go get the broom and dustpan and sweep it all up and throw it into the trash? Oh no, that will be illegal. Should your toddler pull down a lamp by its cord or the dog knock over your pole lamp and some of these CFLs should break, you have to call a specialist to come and decontaminate your house, or at least that room. These CFLs contain a small amount of mercury, a highly toxic liquid at room temperature and partially gas and liquid inside these CFLs. When one breaks a hazmat team needs to be called to properly clean the environment of even the smallest amount of mercury. It will be illegal under EPA regulations to simply STS, as I like to call it, meaning sweep, toss, and shut up. So, break one of these, as I said before, new-fangled CFL bulbs and it is estimated that initially cost anywhere from $1,000.00 to $5,000.00, until sufficient people get trained. Even after there are sufficient numbers of trained people, since it will take special equipment and detection meters and a fair amount of time to properly dispose of your broken light bulb, it will never be all that affordable, and you have to call a “professional”, it’s the law! So, now those crazies who are stocking up on good old incandescent light bulbs might not be all that crazy after all. My solution is I will simply only buy rather expensive and rather unbreakable LED light bulbs. Nope, no CFLs in my house.

http://beyondthecusp.wordpress.com/category/environment-protection-agency/hazmat-team/

 

[ddawg16]

So much mis-information.....

wow can hardly tell you are from Commiefornia.

Bronco....was that necessary? And it added nothing to the discussion....

Sorry...but most of you don't get it....which is why the laws get put into place.....

The discussion has been had here many times and it's the same story...the same group of guys complain about government regulation and how bad the light is.....

In reality, I bet most of you could not tell the difference in light between a CLF or incandescent....

Costs? Yea....incandescents are cheap.....but by the time you have bought a couple of boxes.....good chance all those bulbs will still not last as long as one CFL. So, when you add up how many incandescents it takes to last the life of one CFL....the CFL is cheaper....not to mention it uses 1/4th the power.....

But thats ok....go ahead and stock up on incandescents.....it's your money

 

[TMcCay]

ddawg and everyone else for the new lights.

I really have to disagree with all of you. I have bought a couple of different name brands of the new CFL's and they have done nothing but cost more money in the end than my incandescents have. I have yet to have one of them last for any length of time. Not one of them have lasted a year yet and so where was the savings? I get approx. 18 months out of incandescents in the same fixtures. And as far as the government saving energy the government has a pretty poor track record as far as I can tell with their decisions.
E-10 (now 15)- lower miles per gallon, higher maintenance cost but more taxes paid!!,
Daylight savings time has been proven to be a bust, Higher energy consumption instead of lowerand the list can go on!!
T

 

[adam728]

Say you dropped and broke a cfl bulb on the kitchen floor.
Calling the hazmat team in for a cleanup will quickly eliminate any savings from using the bulb. When the bulbs drop and break they volatize mercury which you breathe in and get brain damaged and start talking and walking funny.
The helping hand of the government is at work in your life more and more. It is for your
own good since you dont know how to help yourself and they know better and want to control all aspects.


http://beyondthecusp.wordpress.com/category/environment-protection-agency/hazmat-team/

Illegal to clean up? Hazmat team? Bwahahahahah
http://www.epa.gov/cfl/cflcleanup-detailed.html

You need to break 100 of these bulbs to have close to as much mercury as an old thermometer.





I think it's rather hilarious how strong some peoples feelings are about lightbulbs.

We switched almost everything in the house to CFL probably 5 years ago. Right in the beginning we had 2 Phillips ones stop working, but otherwise have not changed any.

I even went CFL in the garage with some 150 watt equivilent bulbs. Lots of horror stories about how they don't work in the cold, etc etc. Yes, they take 2-3 seconds to turn on when it's below freezing in the garage, and 2-3 minutes to reach full brightness. Absolutely not a big deal for me. Our front porch light has a CFL now as well and automatically turns on at dark. Even when below 0F it has worked every night.

I think chickenhauler is making the only intelligent argument for regular bulbs here. And, from what I've read in the past, regular bulbs will still be available, just as "heat lamp bulbs".

 

[sdowney717]

E-10 (now 15)- lower miles per gallon

sure does, think about it, you get less mpg with ethanol in the gas.
So where is the savings?
Your not saving any gasoline are you. You burn more e10, so your burning more gasoline.
This and many other issues means its a money grabbing scam on the consumer.
At least they did away with the ethanol subsidy. Now with the EPA mandating ever increasing amounts of ethanol we will get to pay more and more for worse and worse fuel. At least until the people decide enough is enough.

 

[evs1]

I bypassed the CFL's and went to LED's. Don't like the potential problems with the CFL's. I keep a good supply of incandescant 100 and 150 watt bulbs around because they make safe, handy heaters for things like Fido's box, the well house, and any other small enclosed space. 3.4 btu's per watt equals 510 for 150 watts and 340 for 100 watts. No open flame, and cheap/easy to change out.

 

[kennyb52]

I'm staying out of this.......and continue to use candles!

 

[Tbucit]

After reading this thread I do have a few questions. I have approximately 80 CFL's in my shop. They have been in about 14 months but I have replace about 20 of them. My question is did I do something that makes them burn out quicker? I thought at first that the expensive but most likely cheaper ones I got from Lowes was the problem but I got 30 from 1000bulbs and some of them failed after 1 month. Now these did have a 1 year replacement.
As for the light it is bright enough for me but I am using 100 watt equivalents.

One last thing, I too think the government is into to way too many things instead of doing what needs to be done for this country and this has been growing for many years so I am not Obama bashing.

That's all

Randall

 

[Gary S]

and when my squiggly light containing mercury burns out, i throw it away and buy another $8 bulb....

DOH!

Wow! You need to shop somewhere else. I get my CFLs at Menards on sale for less than $1 each.

And, I haven't bought any in years because they are all lasting and lasting. The first ones I put in my house were installed in 2003. They still haven't burned out, so I gradually replaced every incandescent in the house so now I pretty much never worry about failing lamps anymore.

 

[draglink]

I hate the gov't telling me what type of lightbulbs I HAVE to use in my home I hate ****** CFLs, I have seen many, I dont like any of them. In fact just the sight of the stupid looking curly thing pisses me off- back to govt

I dont use many 100w, I have a few 75w, I mainly use 60ws....I will stockpile before the ban.... also I have many chandelier type fixtures in my home that would look terrible with CFLs

Keep your CFLs, I'll spend an extra $5.67 a month on my power bill for my incands

 

[Boost Creep]

i think reading this will help alot of misunderstandings on these bulbs
http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/cfl.asp

also, i've found i can get more light with a cfl than a standard bulb. for example, in my barn i took out several of the 100w bulbs and replaced them with 150w equvilant bulbs that if i remember right from when i swapped years ago, use 60w of power. more light with less electricity. these are quite noticable brighter than the standard bulbs i haven't swapped yet. these have been in a good 3 years and have never not lit even when its below zero.

my apartment had almost every bulb swapped out for cfl's and worked great for the 4-5 years i had em in. i'd put some in the house i moved into but 90% of the lights here are on dimmer switches.

 

[Boost Creep]

i haven't used this type yet so i can't say for sure but i would bet that it would make it alot harder to break the actual light inside with this outer cover on it. and if it does break maybe contain it? i've seen em at several stores but never needed any at the time

 

[Al Bundy]

If the technology was all that great there wouldn't be any need for the government to mandate it. I can assure you that the people who created the legislation and a good percentage of those that voted for it will all profit handsomely from it. And the sheeple like Pablo eat up the rhetoric about how great this is for everybody and how the government is saving us from ourselves. Doesn't anyone find it odd that in an age where tens of thousands of companies have been put out of business because of the cost of handling hazardous materials that the government if forcing everyone to use a product that contains mercury? What's going to happen when millions of these bulbs end up in the landfills and poison our ground water? Mercury doesn't just go away. There's already unacceptable levels of it in a lot of places. We're told not to eat fish more than once a week because of it. It might be nice to think that they will all be properly disposed of, but how about we face the reality instead. We've had mandatory recycling in NY now for years. Plenty of recyclables still get thrown in the trash. The problem with a bulb is it gets broken and the mercury gets all over everything in the bag. You can't separate that.
It's great that the government regulates things roads so we all aren't in mortal danger every time we drive somewhere. And air traffic so planes don't just fall out of the sky. And asbestos so my family isn't exposed to hazardous materials. But forcing us to use a different bulb because they deem it to be better for us? They are overstepping their authority. Someone commented about people getting all worked up over a light bulb. This is about more than just a bulb. And it's not about paranoia. This is how freedom disappears. One small step at a time. The next thing you know they are running your whole life.
And before the flaming starts, I do use some of these bulbs in my house. There are some places that are a PITA to change the bulb. I like the fact that they last longer. But I don't see the need to use them in the whole house. If I'm paying more to use the traditional bulbs, that's my prerogative. It is my money. And as far as that driving up the cost of energy But that's a whole new topic.