11" Delta Drill Press?

[maquette]

Hello all,

I was recently given a bench top 1960 Delta 11-100 and would like to ask a question. With the belt off the pulley and the feed lever in the uppermost position, I can only turn the pulley by hand about a turn in either direction, and then it stops. If I lower the feed lever about 1/2", then the pulley turns freely all the way to the lowest position of the feed lever. Is this normal?

Looking at the parts list for this press I don't see any type of "lock", or anything else that would cause it to stop at the top. You can tell by my question that I know absolutely nothing about drill presses, but I'd like to be able to safely use this old girl in my garage. I've searched high and low, but haven't come up with an answer.

Thanks in advance to any and all with an explanation.

Tom

 

[McBrownie]

Hello all,

I was recently given a bench top 1960 Delta 11-100 and would like to ask a question. With the belt off the pulley and the feed lever in the uppermost position, I can only turn the pulley by hand about a turn in either direction, and then it stops. If I lower the feed lever about 1/2", then the pulley turns freely all the way to the lowest position of the feed lever. Is this normal?

Looking at the parts list for this press I don't see any type of "lock", or anything else that would cause it to stop at the top. You can tell by my question that I know absolutely nothing about drill presses, but I'd like to be able to safely use this old girl in my garage. I've searched high and low, but haven't come up with an answer.

Thanks in advance to any and all with an explanation.

Tom

Tom,

Welcome to GJ! That does not sound right to me. It should spin freely in any position. Post some pictures and you'll get some good instructions of how to take it apart and find out what is going on. By the way, the 11-100 is a great homeowners drill press. I have one myself.

Not sure if you have the older one:
http://vintagemachinery.org/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=15438

or the "newer" one:
http://vintagemachinery.org/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=11019

 

[bubinga]

sounds like the spindle inside the quill may be bent.
as stated above, needs to come apart for inspection.
did you try to hold it in the lowered spot and try running it.

 

[maquette]

I have the "newer" version, circa 1960. I had it apart when I first got it, but didn't notice any problems til I put it back together. I'll be able to get to it Monday and get the spindle and quill back out. I also have to rewire it and a new belt should be here next week. I also need to find a place for new bearings since I haven't had much luck with a search.

Funny you two posted a reply and I have a daughter that lives in Cleveland (we lived in Avon Lake) and my family is from the Wellsburg-Follansbee, WV area.

Thank you both and I'll report back after I get it apart again.

Tom

 

[maquette]

Oh, you wanted a picture. :>)

 

[Packard V8]

Thass an UGLY baby!

However, they clean up easily. My guess is once you get it apart, get rid of the rust and crud, the problem will go away.

And yes, they're a handy, small-footprint DP. I have one in my basement shop and it saves me many trips out through the snow to the big shop in the garage.

jack vines

 

[maquette]

Thass an UGLY baby!
However, they clean up easily. My guess is once you get it apart, get rid of the rust and crud, the problem will go away.
jack vines

I definitely agree with that description, but free is good.

Actually, I've already cleaned it up as good as I'm going to, I'll have to post another picture. I didn't notice the problem until after I cleaned it, which means I may have put my "magic touch" on it. I hope not.

Tom

 

[McBrownie]

I definitely agree with that description, but free is good.

Actually, I've already cleaned it up as good as I'm going to, I'll have to post another picture. I didn't notice the problem until after I cleaned it, which means I may have put my "magic touch" on it. I hope not.

Tom

Tom,

I live in Mentor, or "Menner" as we call it. . You are missing the table, but that can be found. And it can clean up and look like this with a bit of work.

By the way, my parents are from Fairmont and Weirton, WV.

View media item 54759

 

[maquette]

Tom,
I live in Mentor, or "Menner" as we call it. . You are missing the table, but that can be found. And it can clean up and look like this with a bit of work.
By the way, my parents are from Fairmont and Weirton, WV.

Small world, no? I don't think mine will ever look that good, but I'll settle for works well. I'll only be using it for drilling and not real precise at that.

Tom

 

[McBrownie]

Small world, no? I don't think mine will ever look that good, but I'll settle for works well. I'll only be using it for drilling and not real precise at that.

Tom

I was lucky with mine having all original paint. If you have an angle grinder, pick up some scotchbrite pads and the metal parts will shine right up. I think your paint is in pretty good shape too. I bet that will clean up too with a little work.

Here is a table on ebay if you want to go that route:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Table-8-X-8...141786?hash=item41a3edc09a:g:jMoAAOSwL7VWo99U

Mine looked like this when I got it.
View media item 54737

 

[bubinga]

McBrownie, Oh, you just cleaned up the paint?
looks good.
I don't have an old rockwell, but l have an old craftsman and an old Powercraft "cone head"
Heres the Conehead.
I brought it as you see it.

 

[McBrownie]

McBrownie, Oh, you just cleaned up the paint?
looks good.
I don't have an old rockwell, but l have an old craftsman and an old Powercraft "cone head"
Heres the Conehead.
I brought it as you see it.

Yep, just wiped it down and it cleaned right up. Other than one big ding in the table, this press appeared to have had a pretty easy life (and continues to do so). Just used it this morning even though it was 20 degrees in the shop. Brrrrr....

Like that Conehead!

 

[bubinga]

The rockwell cleaned up nice.
Yeah, I had to buy it.
It is smaller than it looked on craigslist.
That is the craigslist photo.
Yeah, it cold her too, I cant really work down there.

 

[maquette]

Well I took it back apart today and there is a brass sleeve that is held in place with a setscrew that had come loose. Tightened it up and everything works as it should (I think). I'll have a new belt in a couple of days and then I can check the runout. I did wire up the motor and she runs smoothly and quiet.

Anyone have a suggestion of a place to get bearings for this thing?

Here she is in all her glory. :>) Sorry for the reflections from the sidecar in the background. Again, thank you for your help.

Tom

 

[McBrownie]

Well I took it back apart today and there is a brass sleeve that is held in place with a setscrew that had come loose. Tightened it up and everything works as it should (I think). I'll have a new belt in a couple of days and then I can check the runout. I did wire up the motor and she runs smoothly and quiet.

Anyone have a suggestion of a place to get bearings for this thing?

Here she is in all her glory. :>) Sorry for the reflections from the sidecar in the background. Again, thank you for your help.

Tom

Wow! Excellent job! I'm not sure on bearings. I really like the industrial switch. I would like to get one like it for mine.

 

[Waterlooboy2hp]

Got to love how these machines come back to life, with some time, elbow grease and a dash of paint.
I bought 3 drill presses for $75.00 and one of them was an 1100-100. It was missing the table. I modified Grizzly parts, that tilt, to replace it.

When you say bearings, I guess you are referring to the bronze spindle bushings. Get the dimensions and check E-bay, or most any bearing supply house. If you want to go with a bit of overkill, you can use the ball bearing spindle assembly, from a Delta DP-220. It fits right in. That is what I did on mine.---- John

 

[maquette]

Wow! Excellent job! I'm not sure on bearings. I really like the industrial switch. I would like to get one like it for mine.

Thanks. I see the switch on Ebay, but the prices are very dear to me. I'm glad mine came with this one. :>)

Tom

 

[maquette]

Got to love how these machines come back to life, with some time, elbow grease and a dash of paint.
I bought 3 drill presses for $75.00 and one of them was an 1100-100. It was missing the table. I modified Grizzly parts, that tilt, to replace it.

If you want to go with a bit of overkill, you can use the ball bearing spindle assembly, from a Delta DP-220. It fits right in. That is what I did in mine.---- John

John,

That press is beautiful to me! When you say the ball bearing spindle from the 220, do you mean the whole spindle and bearings from the 220? If it's just the bearings, do you know the number for them, or is it a measure and hit the suppliers?

Thanks,

Tom

 

[Waterlooboy2hp]

John,

That press is beautiful to me! When you say the ball bearing spindle from the 220, do you mean the whole spindle and bearings from the 220? If it's just the bearings, do you know the number for them, or is it a measure and hit the suppliers?

Thanks,

Tom

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The entire spindle. The ball bearings by themselves, will not fit the spindle, that has the bronze sleeve type. One of the other 2 drill presses, that I got at the time, was a 220. I only noticed by chance, that the 2 spindle assemblies would interchange. ---- John

 

[maquette]

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The entire spindle. The ball bearings by themselves, will not fit the spindle, that has the bronze sleeve type. One of the other 2 drill presses, that I got at the time, was a 220. I only noticed by chance, that the 2 spindle assemblies would interchange. ---- John

Thanks for that information John, I'll start looking around.

Tom

 

[bubinga]

Nice Job guys,
picked this up tonight for $75.00
These are the craigs list pictures,
Better pics to come.
Lots of guys call Lynn at actuate bearing.
get the number and dimensions off the old bearings.
E bay Bearings USA I've had good luck with.
reasonable too. free shipping.

 

[Waterlooboy2hp]

Thanks for that information John, I'll start looking around.

Tom

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Another plus on using a 220 spindle, is that the body of the spindle is about 1/2" longer and also has a longer series of teeth on the gear track. You gain some on the length of the down feed.

I plan to add a 3ed step pulley, for lower speeds. Saw a few conversions and there is not a whole lot to it. I don`t think the low speed option was ever available, from the factory though. --- John

 

[bubinga]

Wonder if mine has brass sleeves or roller bearings?
That is actually a home draft line. I plan to give it a nice face lift..

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[bubinga]

Toot Toot... Lol.....
I thought it was a pretty cool looking drill press.

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[McBrownie]

Wonder if mine has brass sleeves or roller bearings?
That is actually a home draft line. I plan to give it a nice face lift..

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I did not need to take mine apart, so I'm not sure either. I did have about .007" run out on the chuck when I got the drill press. Using an indicator, a deadblow hammer, a block of wood, and a few good whacks in the right place, I got that to under .001". There is no slop in the spindle, so I didn't see a need to do anything else. Interesting that there is an upgrade available!

 

[CalsXS2]

If you guys go the DP220 spindle route make sure you get good bearings. Those are obsolete.

There are a couple of companies reproducing them. But they are not cheap. The cheapest I have found is $30 per spindle bearing, and $45 for the pulley bearing.

Just thought I'd give you guys a heads up.

 

[Bobioz1]

I have a DP220 and I put normal bearings in it. I.E. no funky inner race. They work just fine. Those obsolete bearings were for "quick" changes to sanding spindles and such that probably weren't good for the press anyway.

 

[maquette]

The bearings I'm looking for are shown in the parts diagram and listed on the following page at:

http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/698/5655.pdf

They are item #25 SP-5373 Bearing and Item #54 SP-5330 Bearing

The sleeve I was referring to is item #24 DP-264 Sleeve

I don't know if the bearings are pressed on or not, or how to tell. They both show a different type of retainer. I've been Googling my **** off, but haven't found an answer, or a definitive # to use for reference to the bearings. I realize if I take them out they may have a number on them, or perhaps I could measure them and contact one of the bearing houses, but it sure would have been nice if Delta had included that number in the parts list.

Just throwing this out in case some kind soul has had the same issue for replacing the bearings and is willing to share that info.

You all have been very helpful, thank you.

Tom

 

[bulletpruf]

Tom -

Nice job on the drill press.

Noticed the avatar - HALO jumpmaster? Army SOF? Spent some time in SOF, Army and joint. Currently in a NATO billet overseas.

BTW - for you and McBrownie - my wife's family is from Bridgeport, WV. Not too far from Fairmont. Nice place.

Scott

 

[maquette]

Tom -
Noticed the avatar - HALO jumpmaster? Army SOF? Spent some time in SOF, Army and joint. Currently in a NATO billet overseas.

BTW - for you and McBrownie - my wife's family is from Bridgeport, WV. Not too far from Fairmont. Nice place.

Scott

Hey Scott,

Yes, HALO jumpmaster circa 1969. SF in 60's and 70's, retired in 1980.

Isn't Bridgeport the speed trap capital of WV right on the river? :>)

Hope you have a great assignment and remembering to keep your powder dry. When are you finishing up?

Tom

 

[bulletpruf]

Hey Scott,

Yes, HALO jumpmaster circa 1969. SF in 60's and 70's, retired in 1980.

Isn't Bridgeport the speed trap capital of WV right on the river? :>)

Hope you have a great assignment and remembering to keep your powder dry. When are you finishing up?

Tom

Tom -

Ok, didn't realize we were doing HALO that long ago. Must have some good stories... I'm just a static line guy with about 30 jumps; never had the chance to go to HALO school

Italy is great. I'm eligible to retire in 6 months, but we'll probably stick around for a while longer.

Scott

 

[maquette]

Just wanted to finish my thread off with a sincere thanks to all for your guidance and suggestions. I found the bearings I needed and the porous bronze bushings for the quill too. My machinist friend had to hone the bushing out just a hair to let the spindle move freely, but now all is good.

I now have a fifty six year old benchtop that runs great and will do all I need to do in the garage. Guess I'll have to look around for something else now!

Regards,

Tom