110V @ 50hz

[KansasArt]

We have to go to a destination wedding out of the country. Their electrical system is 110V @ 50hz. Can momma safely use her hairdryer, curling iron and whatever else them women folk use? Safely as in not damaging the appliances. What about phone chargers?
I’m guessing they won’t produce as much heat with the lower V, but will the reduced hz hurt the little blower on the hairdryer?

Thanks!

 

[Metal-Marc]

Where is that?

 

[theoldwizard1]

Hair dryer - no (motors don't like different frequency)
Curling iron - probably (just a heating element)
Phone charger (or any charger) - YES !

 

[kbuhagiar]

Where is that?

It appears to be Jamaica, that is the only country I could find that lists that specific voltage/frequency combination.

 

[wssix99]

Get out a magnifier and check out the fine print on the back of your appliances.

For your electronics chargers, you will see inscriptions that say something like "INPUT 100-240V ~ 50/60 Hz". These are universal chargers and only need an outlet adapter to function.

If your appliance is only 100-140V, you will need a transformer, but you will need to watch out for the frequency. Appliances with motors are typically not going to be tolerant of out-of-bounds frequencies. (This is why hotels put hair dryers in every hotel room...)

BTW - I assume you are going to a Caribbean island as those are the only places where we find 110V 50Hz?

 

[wssix99]

It appears to be Jamaica, that is the only country I could find that lists that specific voltage/frequency combination.

There are some others: https://www.worldstandards.eu/electricity/plug-voltage-by-country/

 

[Innovate1]

Look carefully at the labels on the appliances. Many small phone chargers and the like just rectify the line and use a switching converter that can accept a wide range of voltages and frequency so probably no issue. Blow driers use universal motors so frequency shouldn't be an issue so likely ok there too. But check the labels.

 

[mm08822]

60 hz motors will typically run at 5/6 of their 60hz speed. Short term run time should be ok, but not prolonged use for months/years.

 

[N_Jay]

We have to go to a destination wedding out of the country. Their electrical system is 110V @ 50hz. Can momma safely use her hairdryer, curling iron and whatever else them women folk use? Safely as in not damaging the appliances. What about phone chargers?
I’m guessing they won’t produce as much heat with the lower V, but will the reduced hz hurt the little blower on the hairdryer?

Thanks!

Check the label

 

[nadogail]

Based on my experience living in Spain, 1965-69, you may not notice a difference.

 

[Spareparts]

When I was in NAM most of the compounds were run off a generator, big thing then was reel to reel tape recorders. They would
the songs off the USO radio and play them later when the station was off air. Well the operator set the generator up putting out
120V 50hz. When the problem was found and fixed it made the tape recorders speed up a little, Them songs sounded funy.

 

[KansasArt]

Yes it’s Jamaica. Sorry, I should have specified that. Not looking forward to it. Staying in a all inclusive resort not my cup of tea. Would much rather stay in a hotel in a city where you can see the country, have a beer with the locals…. But thanks for the advice. I appreciate it!

 

[dogdog]

Yes it’s Jamaica. Sorry, I should have specified that. Not looking forward to it. Staying in an all inclusive resort not my cup of tea. Would much rather stay in a hotel in a city where you can see the country, have a beer with the locals…. But thanks for the advice. I appreciate it!

lol stay inside the resort unless you have locals guide.

Phone charger you should be ok.
Curling iron you should be fine
The hair dried unless it’s some thing fancy like the Dyson brushless. You should be fine, hotel resort should have hair drier anyways if not confirm by calling them. Traditional hair drier motor are brush ac motors. Not the induction motors that is frequency dependent.

 

[KansasArt]

I told her to use the hairdryer & stuff the resort provides. The look on her face!! You’d think I told her to share her toothbrush with some homeless vagrant.

 

[Packard V8]

FWIW, I've run dozens of electric motors on 50hz. Most of them don't notice the difference. Back in the day, buy an audio turntable and it came with a motor spindle or pulley for both 50Hz and 60Hz.

jack vines

 

[yhprum]

Same here, in Australia we are 240/50. When I run American applies with a 110v transformer, I can’t tell any difference at all for 10 plus years so far.

 

[Metal-Marc]

lol stay inside the resort unless you have armed gards.

Fixed.

https://travel.state.gov/content/tr...traveladvisories/jamaica-travel-advisory.html

 

[dogdog]

Fixed.

https://travel.state.gov/content/tr...traveladvisories/jamaica-travel-advisory.html

Years ago knew some one that love to travel to those resort designations for talking points, so he and his wife decided to venture out thinking he spoke some Spanish from school….. all he describe when he venture to town was that some guy drunk in a van and kept screaming “gato” which he thought it was funny some one scream “cat” until another person got into argument with that van guy and he left.

**Yea, don’t think he realizes they are about to be kidnapped…..

 

[dogdog]

I told her to use the hairdryer & stuff the resort provides. The look on her face!! You’d think I told her to share her toothbrush with some homeless vagrant.

One thing you should definitely bring if you enjoy a good cup of tea. Your own electric kettle. Never used the ones provided by the hotel/motel/resorts

 

[wyliesdiesels]

Fixed.

https://travel.state.gov/content/tr...traveladvisories/jamaica-travel-advisory.html

damn thats crazy... i think ill pass on going there

 

[mike93lx]

I told her to use the hairdryer & stuff the resort provides. The look on her face!! You’d think I told her to share her toothbrush with some homeless vagrant.

Lol. You new to this?

 

[JordanOH]

I’ve been there. No way I’d go back, absolute shithole. Send a card and go on vacation somewhere else.

 

[Metal-Marc]

One thing you should definitely bring if you enjoy a good cup of tea. Your own electric kettle. Never used the ones provided by the hotel/motel/resorts

Travel light. Always.

 

[KansasArt]

Well I sent Mrs KansasArt the link to the dept of state warning. She called the travel agency that arranged everything. They “assured” her that the resort takes security seriously and have had no incidents on their premises. We shall see. There might be 1 less GJ member here in a few weeks.

 

[mike93lx]

Well I sent Mrs KansasArt the link to the dept of state warning. She called the travel agency that arranged everything. They “assured” her that the resort takes security seriously and have had no incidents on their premises. We shall see. There might be 1 less GJ member here in a few weeks.

There is a huge difference between staying on resort and exploring the area. You'll be fine

 

[wyliesdiesels]

Well I sent Mrs KansasArt the link to the dept of state warning. She called the travel agency that arranged everything. They “assured” her that the resort takes security seriously and have had no incidents on their premises. We shall see. There might be 1 less GJ member here in a few weeks.

Seriously thats very subjective… what are their standards? 3rd world country or US?

 

[wyliesdiesels]

There is a huge difference between staying on resort and exploring the area. You'll be fine

Well apparently even the all inclusive resorts have a crime problem…

 

[dogdog]

Well I sent Mrs KansasArt the link to the dept of state warning. She called the travel agency that arranged everything. They “assured” her that the resort takes security seriously and have had no incidents on their premises. We shall see. There might be 1 less GJ member here in a few weeks.

You are absolutely fine as long as you stay within the resort area(s). You are well protected by both LEO and Anti-LEO alike, both gets paid well. It’s about when you wanted to travel in town and see the locals and party with them from post #12.


VVV

Would much rather stay in a hotel in a city where you can see the country, have a beer with the locals….

 

[MBfreak]

Units that has a magnetic circuit ( ie power transformers, electric motors ) at mains frequency may need a bit lower voltage at 50 Hz if designed for 60 Hz.
If you multiply the 60 Hz rated voltage with appr 0,91 you will avoid overfluxing.
Overfluxing leads to overheating of both coils and lamination, and sounds awful sometimes.

I repaired and overhauled 4 off 1938 electric motors for a swedish project involving a FUTURLINER.
Unusual design, repulsion motors. Rated 110 V 60 Hz, around 500 W. All should be as was.
After repair and reassembly I had access to a pro motor test area. ( Thanks to ABB)
All voltages and could select 50, 60 or 400 Hz. Well instrumented.

I was sure that the magnetic circuits would easily run on 110 V 50 Hz. Guys back the could not count! Or????
I was horribly wrong. They were perfectly designed for 110 V 60 Hz. At 7 % overvoltage losses incresed 35 %
Had to run them on 92 V 50 Hz.

And I guess that most electromagnets designed for 60 Hz is spot on.

Ola

 

[KansasArt]

Oh I know their reply is very subjective. I mean the folks talking your $ aren’t gonna bad mouth the place you just paid thousands for. I’m assuming besides local leo’s, and the military the major resorts pay extortion money to the local gangs for security. Kinda like businesses paid protection money to the mafia back in the day here. My only real concern is the 80 minute bus ride from the airport to the resort. This trip I’ll gladly stay with in the confines of the resort.