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12 Inch Sliding Compound Miter Saw

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Hi All...I am in the market for a 12-inch sliding compound miter saw for finish carpentry and I was wondering if any members have some recommendations. I am not a pro. Looking at the Dewalt, Milwaukee, Bosch and Makita (or others if need be...) What experiences can you folks share? I appreciate your help. Thank you.
 
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Do you really need the 12"? I ask only because the blades are not as plentiful and usually 2x the cost.

I wish someone asked me the same question years ago. I have a Ridgid on their MSUV and its a nice setup for myself. Any one of the ones you listed should provide years of good use.
 

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I have the new dewalt 12" dual sliding compound miter saw and stand. It has been a super solid saw so far. I did upgrade to a nice Freud fine finish blade on it. If I didnt buy the dewalt I would have gone with the Bosch axial glide.
 

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Milwaukee 6955. I've cut a massive amount of hardwoods with mine.It's a great machine.
Morons didn't include a clamping rig(too busy designing heated jackets and bottle openers) but the Besseys are on the wall next to it.
The next biggest plus. 5 year warranty.Very important in the world of junk, plastic and gizmos.
 

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I have the Bosch GCM12SD, great saw, no movement in the slide.

The stand is nearly as important as the saw, I have mine on a Ridgid MSUV as well.
 

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Dewalt with a ridged stand, I watched the guys framing my house leave there Dewalt out every night with nothing but a tarp over it. They had it for 8 years and frame year round.

That was all I needed to know
 

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Hi All...I am in the market for a 12-inch sliding compound miter saw for finish carpentry and I was wondering if any members have some recommendations. I am not a pro. Looking at the Dewalt, Milwaukee, Bosch and Makita (or others if need be...) What experiences can you folks share? I appreciate your help. Thank you.

I haven't used one but the Bosch Glide can be set up flush to a wall and still get full cuts since it articulates on a hinged arm instead of sliding on a rail type system which needs clearance in the back. Supposed to be more accurate as well.
 

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I have and recommend the dewalt 12" slider. I build furniture as a hobby and this is my preferred miter saw. As stated above, get the led light, not the laser. Having used both, the LED light is far superior and requires no adjustment for it to accurately show your cut line.
 

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I have the 12" Hitachi with laser and like it ok. It is one of the cheaper SCMS and it does what I ask of it.

Would get the Bosch now with the fancy arm.

Definitely go 12" for the extra cutting capacity.
 

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I've been using the DeWalt and HF versions. The quality of the cut is mainly dependent on the blade, so just buy a nice fine tooth blade and go slow on nice hardwoods.

Depends on your budget and how much quality of feel matter to you.
 

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I've been using the DeWalt and HF versions. The quality of the cut is mainly dependent on the blade, so just buy a nice fine tooth blade and go slow on nice hardwoods.

Depends on your budget and how much quality of feel matter to you.

True, the quality of the cut is dependent upon the blade. However, the accuracy of the cut is dependent upon the saw. Accuracy is key.
 

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The 12" is a beast and it's not a trim saw although many use it for small trim. I prefer a 10" for moldings. In fact, I've used 8 1/4" for so many years the 10 seems rather large to me. I think the 12" slider will cut a 4 x 6.
 

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The 12" is a beast and it's not a trim saw although many use it for small trim. I prefer a 10" for moldings. In fact, I've used 8 1/4" for so many years the 10 seems rather large to me. I think the 12" slider will cut a 4 x 6.

You need a 12" to cut any 4x lumber, or cut a 2x4 the tall way.
It's fine for trim. Yeah, blades are expensive, but with more circumference, you get more cuts before they wear out. Proportionately, the cost of blades ends up the same.

The Bosch axial glide is incredible, but out of my budget. I have the original DeWalt 12" slider (the one with the vertically oriented bars) and love it.
 

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True, the quality of the cut is dependent upon the blade. However, the accuracy of the cut is dependent upon the saw. Accuracy is key.

I would agree, and even though the 45 and 44.5 degree marks on the DeWalt are more true to their displayed angle than the HF, once you dial in the HF and find the marks that get you an exact measured angle the repeatability is comparable. So I haven't noticed a loss in accuracy as a hole.

That said, I wouldn't use the HF for full time or professional use. I did use it a ton including making 7 pieces of furniture - it just doesn't instil a lot of durability confidence.
 

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You need a 12" to cut any 4x lumber, or cut a 2x4 the tall way.
It's fine for trim. Yeah, blades are expensive, but with more circumference, you get more cuts before they wear out. Proportionately, the cost of blades ends up the same.

The Bosch axial glide is incredible, but out of my budget. I have the original DeWalt 12" slider (the one with the vertically oriented bars) and love it.

Appreciate the advice. I've only run trim for 40 years so anything I can learn is a bonus.
 
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I'm a Milwaukee fan boy, but when I'm in the market for a 12" SCMS (which I'm planning in the next few months..) I'll be taking a long hard look at the Bosch unit.
 

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Appreciate the advice. I've only run trim for 40 years so anything I can learn is a bonus.

Not trying to "correct" you by any means. The smaller saws are much lighter, and when portability is important, that's a liability against the 12" saws. Mine hardly ever moves, so I'm fine with the added weight.

A 10" is sufficient for many things, and with the slide, a better 10" saw can cut a 10" deep shelf just as well as my 12" sliding saw. Neither is a true radial arm saw, but I still like the reach of my 12" saw.

As for having a true 4" cutting depth, the 12" has the advantage of being able to cut miters on large crown moldings in an angled sled without having to setup compound angles. Not a deal breaker, but a nice plus.
 

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Dont tell Bosch this.

Dewalt 717 can cut a 4x4 as well..... even a fixed 10" Miter saw can cut a 4x4 @ 90 degress. http://www.dewalt.com/tools/machinery-miter-saws-dw713.aspx

<sigh> I hate it when companies try to push a 10" blade past its limits. Look closely at the blade hub. The stabilizing washer is nearly non-existant.

That leads to vibration, splintering and burning. All made worse when you buy a narrow kerf blade (which I prefer for most chop saw tasks).
 

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I have a Ridgid 12" slider and an older 90's 10" Ryobi non-slider. With any slider, you get less accuracy than any non-slider, and 10" non-slider will be more accurate than 12" non-slider also, as the blade wobble is less with a 10 vs 12 and the side to side play in any slider is greater than a non-slider without those rails to deal with.

So my old 10" Ryobi is, yes, more precise a cut than the much more costly 12" Ridgid slider. So I still use it where it works out. But for capability, and really, a substitute for a radial arm saw, you would want a slider, either 10" or 12". 10" is much lower cost than 12" and can do almost as much, so would make sense for many. I got the 12" Rigid slider used for all of $225, so not too bad there for that. It is very nice, powerful, and capable, and one I would recommend for a 12" slider. It is huge and heavy though, and not really portable. For job site portability, you would probably want a different one. In fact, that is how I got mine used, from a contractor who got sick of lugging it around. Great for my basement workshop use. My old 10" non-slider is what goes places when I need a portable saw, and covers most of the needs that way. I think 10" sliders are underrated and would cover most peoples needs well if they only have one. Blades are cheaper also. Always wax your blades/teeth whatever you have to make cutting easier and last longer and get any sticky residue off the blades please. - Paul
 

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<sigh> I hate it when companies try to push a 10" blade past its limits. Look closely at the blade hub. The stabilizing washer is nearly non-existant.

That leads to vibration, splintering and burning. All made worse when you buy a narrow kerf blade (which I prefer for most chop saw tasks).

I had a Bosch 10" slider for years and had no problems cutting 4x4s with it. Would just barely cut them, but it did so with no problem. Had that saw for over 10 years and then bought a 5412L (12" slider) that was slightly used. Love that saw. The axial glide saw is a dream but a really expensive dream.

I haven't seen any of the negatives you describe. I use both standard and thin kerf blades.
 

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Hi neighbor. I've used them all and keep coming back to Dewalt. I currently have a 10" compound, 12" compound, and 12" slide compound. Let me know if you'd like to try them before purchasing.
 

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It sure would be hard to beat the Dewalt 12" slider. :)

The only drawback I've noted is it's a heavy beast to move, and awkward to grab when doing so. For its intended purpose it is GREAT however.
 

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If you want to keep the saw stationary at the wall, go with their new Bosch or Festool as their sliding arm extends only in one direction.

I have the Dewalt DW717 10" sliding double-compounding saw and it works well for me because I move it around on a stand.

I chosed 10" over the 12" because it can rip 4x4, blades are less expensive, and the saw is lighter. During when I bought the 10" saw, the 12" saw was the same price.
 

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I confused what you mean by a saw arm that extends only in one direction, doesn't that take away the double compound function?
 

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Not trying to "correct" you by any means. The smaller saws are much lighter, and when portability is important, that's a liability against the 12" saws. Mine hardly ever moves, so I'm fine with the added weight.

A 10" is sufficient for many things, and with the slide, a better 10" saw can cut a 10" deep shelf just as well as my 12" sliding saw. Neither is a true radial arm saw, but I still like the reach of my 12" saw.

As for having a true 4" cutting depth, the 12" has the advantage of being able to cut miters on large crown moldings in an angled sled without having to setup compound angles. Not a deal breaker, but a nice plus.

I prefer to cut crown and cornice upside down (and backwards) with the spring angle up against the fence using a 45º or 22.5 angle as required. Compound miters just make exact cuts more difficult.
 

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I meant to say that if you are standing in front of the saw, the sliding arm extend only toward you and not to the back and hit the wall. Look at Festool to see their design to get better understanding. That's the biggest drawback of my Dewalt DW717; if I place my saw close the wall, my slider will hit the wall. However, that doesn't bother me because it's portable.

Only Bosch and Festool have different sliding function in the market that I know of. Dewalt, Milwaukee, Hitachi, and Makita all have the normal sliding function.
I confused what you mean by a saw arm that extends only in one direction, doesn't that take away the double compound function?
 
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He means that there's no rails that extend beyond the back of the saw. It takes up a lot less room that way and makes it easier to store.

This is my Bosch 12" glide saw in a Gladiator cab.

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Hi All...I am in the market for a 12-inch sliding compound miter saw for finish carpentry and I was wondering if any members have some recommendations. I am not a pro. Looking at the Dewalt, Milwaukee, Bosch and Makita (or others if need be...) What experiences can you folks share? I appreciate your help. Thank you.

You would be wise to schedule a "test drive".

Hi neighbor. I've used them all and keep coming back to Dewalt. I currently have a 10" compound, 12" compound, and 12" slide compound. Let me know if you'd like to try them before purchasing.

:thumbup:
 

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I think most of the manufacturers have a unique feature that sets them apart. I don't think you could go wrong with any of them so it might be a preference here.

Dewalt. Xps shadow line is always dead on and doubles as a work light
Bosch. Front bevel controls on their saws are handy
Milwaukee. Digital readout can make cutting odd angles easier
Makita. Dunno?
 

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Only Bosch and Festool have different sliding function in the market that I know of. Dewalt, Milwaukee, Hitachi, and Makita all have the normal sliding function.

The Festool still uses a rail with linear bearings. It's just that the head glides on the rail (like a radial arm saw), instead of the rails sliding in the base (like most sliding miter saws). I believe it is still deeper than the Bosch.

The Bosch glide saw is simply amazing, and completely unique in the market.
 

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I have gotten into kitchen/bath remodeling business. I have been using my ryobi chop saws for a few years. I have no complaints. I don't do much 2x6 framing or 4x4 post cutting so the 10" works perfect for me. I do a ton of crowns and baseboards and have no issues with the accuracy of the ryobi.

With that said I will eventually replace the slider with a Dewalt 12" just so I have the versatility available. I am in no rush, but I think the dewalt is a nice saw.
 

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