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uncle_scott

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I have been in my house for a year and a half now, and the garge has hardly been useable. Time to clean up and shape up. The house was built in 1946, and has been renovated. We are doing a few touches to it to personalize it a bit, but the garage has always been a sore spot. It is small at 9'x21', but it can easily have a small car in it, and after lurking here for a while, there are a few tricks up my sleeve to make the most of this small space.

I like to tinker on projects. I have built a couple of old VW's and right now my Porsche sits on the driveway while the remains of a cut up Porche 944 take up the majority of space. I also have a few bikes, and like to play mechanic and wood worker once in a while.

My idea is to create a place that will house my Porsche, but still provide workbench room and space for tools and projects when I pull the car out. I guess I will start out with what we have...:eyecrazy:

Barely accessible:
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I have a VR6 motor somewhere under that junk:
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My neglected Work Bench:
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My loft that I am moving:
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New loft location, tucked up above the garage door:
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First Steps:

I am cleaning off the existing loft. The ceiling height under it is only about 7' and it is very oppressive feeling making the space feel even more cramped. I will move it above the garage door so the door can still open, but when it is closed there will be space in between the joists to hang lights. I think this will give the place a more open feel. I have some recycled redwood decking 2x6 material that I am using for joists. I have already begun that process.

Next:

I am going to deep clean the place. The Porsche 944 just had the last sellable bits taken off, and will go to scrap. That will immediately open up a lot of floor space for me to work.

Plan:

My goal is to remove all of the old wall cladding and go down to the studs. I need to tuck/re-wire nearly everything, and then I can put up some insulation and sheetrock the place. I want it light and bright. I also want to be able to build shelves all the way into the studs area to maximize space.

I started this thread in hopes to stay motivated. Many of your garages have been inspiration. I hope to do the board proud with my mini space.

Just for kicks, here is the Porsche that I need to get off the driveway, and into the garage. I don't like it sleeping outside alone all night. :lol:
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uncle_scott

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Might seem like small progress, but I finally got the bones of an old Porsche 944 out of my garage. A friend of mine broke out the sawsall and went to town, it took a while, and it was probably some of the heaviest stuff I have ever lifted on a trailer, but it feels amazing to reclaim that garage space. I was low on time and had to just pile everything back in on some kitty litter soaking up oil. Over the next couple of weekends, I will start the re-wire and finish my new loft.

Between my wife and I, we have 5 bicycles! :dunno: I have two BMX bikes and a fixed gear bike. She has her mountain bike and a cruiser. I might need to build a shed out back jut to house the bikes. :lol:

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You guys are really motivating, thanks!!! As for 930dreamer's comment about storing my car...make me an offer. Money talks, lol.

I worked in there for a while last night. No new pics, just more de-cluttering and cleaning. The kitty litter did its job, so the floor can be walked on without picking up oily footprints.

Next is the loft clearing. I am not looking forward to dragging everything down from there, but it needs to be done. Onward and upward!
 

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I was in my house for three years before I could do more than walk through the shoulder-high piles of **** in the garage. I had to do all my work under a canopy in the driveway, which was just stupid. Finally taking the time to get everything out of there was a watershed moment for me. It showed me that I was spending more time looking for stuff I couldn't find than actually doing anything.

There's a lot you can do with a small space if you take a minute and think about the whole place and what you have to work with and what you want to do in it. If you can put a shed somewhere on the property you can relocate a lot of the stuff that is simply being stored in the garage and try to only include stuff you actually will use.

The Porsche is beautiful. Now give it a good home, and (my advice) don't take on new projects until your shop is up and functional. :)

I wish I had a 'before' picture of mine. It would shock people.

But here's another black 911:

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uncle_scott

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Jack - Thanks for the kind words. Your shop was an inspiration to me, and I found this site through a random vwvortex.com posting about your place quite a while back. The hinged tables, and your metal work will definitely influence what I want to have going on in my small but functional space. It is slow going, but it should be rewarding to see it come together.

As for the comment about not taking on new projects...that is what started my garage clean-out. I had been sitting on an old VW project that I just sold, and the Porsche 944 shell was part of the mix of parts that needed to go. At this point all I have left are a few bits and pieces to sell on pelican and ebay, and then I will be a one-project man for the first time in a long time.

The 911 was a dream car, and I often look at yours and wish for a long-nose conversion. I am going with an IROC-tribute, and I have already gathered all of the fiberglass to make the transformation. Now all I need is a good place to work. And that is coming right up thankfully!
 
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Hi UncleScott - I was REALLY happy to see another 'tiny' space. You have about 20sq. ft more than me . . .but then you are planning to put a car in the space! A couple of quick ideas came to mind and then I hope to keep trading 'small space' ideas with you:

-I have found that the biggest challenge is moving everything multiple times in order to get work done. For example, when you go to rewire, you will have to work on one side of the garage, then move everything, then wire the other side. This is compounded by the need to get all the **** off the driveway before turning in at night. One suggestion is to take the white table you have in the back of the photo (doesn't look like something you're trying to protect), put some casters on it and a makeshift plywood bottom shelf, and use it as a large rolling cart to pile everything on to make space while you work. You could stack a lot on that thing and send it into the driveway pretty quickly. I would imagine that working with the sawzall is frustrating trying to get around all the piles.

-I think the loft idea is going to be a huge help for you. Since it is over the garage door you most likely want to use it as storage for things not used often (tires, etc), and put upper cabinets for things you use more often along the side walls.

-I am learning a huge lesson in "get as much **** you don't use outta your space as possible". That doesn't mean you can't collect things - but boxes, lumber scrap, etc - get rid of it. Also, if you have things you only use seldomly, try to find other storage for them than in your small garage.

-Read through Jack's thread for folding table ideas - looks like you will need to go that route.

Post more pictures - I am looking forward to following your build!:thumbup:
 

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Wow, you've got a lot of potential!

I think that loft space is going to work wonders for your garage.

Think fold-up benches. Additional shelves would also get a lot of stuff off the ground and give you more floor area.

I see a lot of wood scraps and cardboard boxes in there - it might help to think like a minimalist and ditch the stuff you don't absolutely need.

If you like to play woodworker, there are a host of micro sized but fully functional woodworking tools you can get and you can slide them under a bench. A miter saw, if you don't already have one, would be tops on that list.

If I were you, I would try and prioritize your projects and either sell off or get rid of the stuff not related to your car or stuff that you are not going to be able to get to for a few years.

I can understand the bicycles as I am a bicycle fan, but if you were to pick just one, which would it be?

If you can pare down just a bit, then get some organization for what you want to keep, I see a killer garage in the works.

Keep it up! :thumbup:
 
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I also have a similar sized garage (10X20, but about 1/4 of it is only 9 feet wide). Luckily, I had height (about 11.5'). I put in a lift to store my hobby car. My daily driver gets parked underneath it.

When I did this last year, my idea was just for storing both cars in the garage and being able to work on the cars also.

The thing I found out about the lift was it is very useful for a bunch of other reasons:

1. Great to get things into the loft space like seasonal tires.

2. By having the car lifted, instantly creates a workspace for whatever you need to do.

3. I build shelves high up around the perimeter of the garage for storage. Again the lift makes it easy to get to those items.

In the end the lift cost less than $2500. If I did not have a car to go on the lift, I think I would have sealed up the 'hole' between the ramps with lumber or metal and then that area could become a workshop or storage area.

The $2500 in many ways is comprable to building a 10' x 15' shed but without having to build anything!
 
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A quick note to say that the support and encouragement that so many lend to others on this site is pleasing to say the least. You make people feel welcomed and supported. Cheers to all, doug.
 
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uncle_scott

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Hey everyone, sorry that I have left you hanging! I didn't expect my tiny garage to bring this much interest! Progress will be slow due to grad school and my porsche project. I have limited time, but I am going to keep moving...slowly, lol.

Kitty litter is cleaned up, the new loft has been planned out and I test fit a board above the garage door to make sure everything would clear. By the way...anyone need a VW VR6 motor?

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Right now the interior is ripped out of my car while I am planning an RS carpet install...
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The garage is going to be worked on this week. By the way, the idea about the rolling table was genius!!
 
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Hi Scott,

As a former owner of a few P cars myself are you going for uber lightness to race or what? I ask becauise I'm wondering if you'll be putting down any Dynamat (heavy!) or some lizardskin coating, etc?

Is that a 4x8 (or 10?) above the garage door? You'll have a lot of weight capacity if you can get a couple of those up there. Can't wait to see the improvements going in.
 
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Hi Scott,

As a former owner of a few P cars myself are you going for uber lightness to race or what? I ask becauise I'm wondering if you'll be putting down any Dynamat (heavy!) or some lizardskin coating, etc?

Is that a 4x8 (or 10?) above the garage door? You'll have a lot of weight capacity if you can get a couple of those up there. Can't wait to see the improvements going in.


Right now, I am going for a semi-stripped, but still daily driven car. Quite a bit of the original sound deadening peeled right off the floor with no effort. This won't be replaced with anything just yet. I don't want to commit to a product like DynaMat or some other very sticky sound deadening. Eventually this car will be taken down to the bare tub and rebuilt, so I want to be able to get the original paint off and make it very clean in the (hopefully not too distant) future. what I am doing now is a basic refresh so the interior is clean and liveable.

Exterior is getting a lightweight IROC tribute set of fiberglass bumpers and a ducktail. All AC components are out of the car along with having no stereo, and soon no power windows or mirrors. Every inch of 27 year old wiring I can pull from that car is a blessing, haha.

As for the loft, those are 2x6 redwood boards that I salvaged from my in-laws deck. They will be spaced about 16-20 inches apart following the old 2x4s inside the garage. Should make for plenty of storage for items that don't get used a lot (xmas, yard stuff, etc.)
 

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By the way, the idea about the rolling table was genius!!

I get that a lot. :lol_hitti

I had the same issue with small space and found myself moving things around more than getting anything done. Had a big folding table a rigged it with casters as a temporary cart - worked great and saved a ton of time. Doesn't have to be a permanent solution but will cut your "shuffle" time in 1/2 while you are getting the space in order! I like your progress!
 
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