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1968 GTO Resurrection

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The GTO story

Sometime in the early 80’s my uncle purchased a 1968 GTO in Virginia, where he test drove it, put it on a trailer and shipped it to Spring Valley NY. The car resided in my grandparents barn where early on some work was performed (front end disassembled, carb work done etc) – the details are fuzzy as he doesn’t recall specifics, just that he hoped to drag race the car at some point.

I remember paying in the barn as a kid, always careful not to mess up the GTO. As I became of driving age I’d casually mention the car in hopes of being able to purchase it. The answer always came back as “No, I’m going to fix it up and use it”. This conversation went on for nearly 30 years as the car sat silently awaiting someone to reassemble and drive it.

At some point in the time line my grandfather passed and we sold the property the barn was on, forcing a decision on storage location of the car. My uncle decided to move it to my grandmother’s house where it stayed until her passing and subsequent sale of the property.

In October 2018 I (and my brother) asked again to buy the car, reply was “No, but you can have it”. So begins the GTO resurrection.

While in the barn, the car was spared any damage from the elements. Once moved to my grandmother’s house it began deteriorating. The extent of which wasn’t known as no-one had laid eyes on it for years. I asked family members who were at my grandmother’s house taking care of the clean up after her death to take some photos of it, specifically the front end as it had been disassembled and not put back together when moved from the barn to the house. The photos showed the hood detached, fender removed and driver’s side suspension disassembled. Both front wheels were MIA in the photos. I gathered what tools I thought we would need, purchased some new ball joints and two used wheels from the junk yard and set out at 4am with my brother and a borrowed trailer from Buffalo to Spring Valley to load up the car.

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The drive to Spring Valley was uneventful. This is the scene we arrived to:

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It's hard to see, but there is a large oak tree in the background. That becomes important later.

I hooked the power washer to the water heater and it made short work of the dirt and also some of the paint.

3 hours after arrival we had the car reassembled enough to facilitate loading it in the trailer, washed, loaded and tied down.


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We then jumped on a train and headed to Manhattan to get some pizza.

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Next post - Driving back to Buffalo


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A new car was driven-to a barn and disassembled, and left that way until you acquired it? What a shame it wasn't better-stored its entire life. Good luck with the work.

I had a '67 GTO convertible w/4-speed once, but when I was offered 3X what I paid for it, "goodbye!" That was a duration of less-than a year of ownership, and no real expense in maintaining it or modifications.

I still have a pair of headlight bezels I found when I tore-down a shed recently.
 
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good luck
I still have a few 68 parts kicking around but it looks pretty complete.
I will caution you about 68s.
It was like a red headed step child.Lots of one year only parts in it.
Good news is most of the 69(more popular) stuff does interchange.
 

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Love those cars. A guy on my route did a frame off nut and bolt on a 69/70 convertible 4 speed car. He claimed there were only a few hundred made. Painted it the bright orange and put Judge stripes on it.

Instead of powder coating he cut corners by buying NAPA spray on undercoating and his all his chassis parts and black stuff with it. It wasn't a pro job but it was very nice otherwise. Body work was extremely well done. I'd stop in on the route and check progress every few months.
 

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WOW that brings back good memories, I had a 68 convertible with a 70 Judge spoiler
Dang that car was fast ! A built 400 with a 4 speed etc .
 
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Thanks, I'm going to need all the luck I can get.

I never knew I wanted to go to Manhattan until now. :drool:

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Best pizza anywhere as far as I am concerned.

A new car was driven-to a barn and disassembled, and left that way until you acquired it? What a shame it wasn't better-stored its entire life. Good luck with the work.

I had a '67 GTO convertible once, but when I was offered 3X what I paid for it, "goodbye!" That was a duration of less-than a year of ownership, and no real expense in maintaining it or modifications.

It's a shame that for sure.

Good luck:thumbup:
That is going to be one fine project.
The subject matter is simply superior!:lol_hitti

Agreed, Thanks.

Luv those cars. Good luck on the project!

Thanks!

Sent a pm. I live 2 min from the Spring Valley border.

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good luck
I still have a few 68 parts kicking around but it looks pretty complete.
I will caution you about 68s.
It was like a red headed step child.Lots of one year only parts in it.
Good news is most of the 69(more popular) stuff does interchange.

Thanks. I'm finding this out as the 68 stuff is also more expensive.

Love those cars. A guy on my route did a frame off nut and bolt on a 69/70 convertible 4 speed car. He claimed there were only a few hundred made. Painted it the bright orange and put Judge stripes on it.

Instead of powder coating he cut corners by buying NAPA spray on undercoating and his all his chassis parts and black stuff with it. It wasn't a pro job but it was very nice otherwise. Body work was extremely well done. I'd stop in on the route and check progress every few months.

I cutting a similar corner, no PC for this car either. It's not in the budget.

Cool project and story. Keep updating the progress.

What's the importance of the oak tree?

Thanks. The oak tree is coming up... stay tuned

WOW that brings back good memories, I had a 68 convertible with a 70 Judge spoiler
Dang that car was fast ! A built 400 with a 4 speed etc .

I wonder if this one will be fast, or on 1968 suspension technology fast enough? I hope to find out soon.

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I wish I could say the drive back to Buffalo was uneventful. Somewhere between Newburgh and Albany on I-87 the passenger side front tire on the truck shifted a belt. As the tire became out of round the front end started to shimmy – which ultimately resulted in the destruction of the driver’s side front tire as well. What was supposed to be a 6 hour drive turned into ~10 hours. Driving on the thruway at the minimum speed *****. The good news is that was the only drama and we made it back home.


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Love the 68 GTO. One day hopefully I'll get to build one also. Good luck on the project and I'll definitely be following along.

~Jim~
 

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My high school buddy had a 68 goat - 400 ci motor 400 trans and dual gate shifter. White exterior with red interior. Fun times. We graduated 1981.

Wish you the best with the build!
 
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The next day we unloaded the car and took stock of what kind of project we were embarking on. The resurrection of this car is not going to follow the standard path. I have very little space to spread things out, so each area of the car will be taken as mini project to break down the work and minimize the sprawl of parts that is sure to happen. Also the posting will follow different mini projects. Occasionally I worked on a few small things at once – so the photos won’t be chronological.

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The interior was “properly stored” with each piece removed and bagged – it made the stripping everything out of the passenger compartment much easier. We didn’t remove anything from the plastic, so the condition of the seats was unknown at that point. After another power washing session we determined the trunk floor was the worst area in terms of rot and decided to tackle that as the first body related project.

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To get the car into the garage, allow the garage door to close and leave room to access the front and back of the car; we pulled the fenders, bumper, radiator, and core support.

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Next we pulled the engine and got it on a stand in preparation for cleaning and testing. More on that later.

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That's about all I can write tonight, to be continued.

Ryan
 

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wow now I realize how lucky I am to have restored cars that still had paint on motor etc.
I cut a tail panel off a parts car for a guy and he said"this car is in better shape than the one Im restoring".
Im glad yours is pretty complete. Just remember to bag and tag... and take plenty of pictures.
 

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Awesome thread going to watch. When I was 14 my neighbor had a 70 Lemans and a 69 GTO Judge. He painted and worked on cars in his garage. I would go and help him and longed for the day I could drive and have a cool car like the Judge.

By 15 we needed a car and he sold us the Lemans, the car I helped him paint. I enjoyed that car. Only car I could lay in the trunk or on the motor to work on things. LOL

Good luck and keep it coming!
 
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wow now I realize how lucky I am to have restored cars that still had paint on motor etc.
I cut a tail panel off a parts car for a guy and he said"this car is in better shape than the one Im restoring".
Im glad yours is pretty complete. Just remember to bag and tag... and take plenty of pictures.

Fortunately the only missing major part I've discovered in the evaporator, blower motor and housing. The only minor parts so far are the trunk lock.

One think I'm not good at is taking photos. I get wrapped up in the work and all of a sudden it late. My brother is much better about it. We've been using the Harbor Freight organizers to keep track of parts.

Awesome thread going to watch. When I was 14 my neighbor had a 70 Lemans and a 69 GTO Judge. He painted and worked on cars in his garage. I would go and help him and longed for the day I could drive and have a cool car like the Judge.

By 15 we needed a car and he sold us the Lemans, the car I helped him paint. I enjoyed that car. Only car I could lay in the trunk or on the motor to work on things. LOL

Good luck and keep it coming!

Thanks. My uncle had a LeMans also, that was left outside the barn and was completely ravaged by the NY winters. Too sad to think about...

Got a NY Pizza place in Canton Ohio if you're up this way
I'd like to try it out, I'm that way frequently. I will however remain skeptical that anyone, even a relocated NYer can match pizza outside of NYC. It's the water - same for bagels.

Great thread!!!!! Following!

Thanks!

Good to see a shifting fork in those pictures!! Bravo for keeping it in the family..

Thanks. I've been reading your posts for some time and will try to incorporate some of the stuff I've learned into this build. I'm about 5 or 6 orders of magnitude lower in the sheet metal fab skill level however... hopefully I don't make you cringe too much.

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Thank you - I've been following your thread for some time as well.

I am in. Subscribed.

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Tonight I'll get to some of the trunk floor

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While the engine was out it was an opportune time to disassemble the steering and suspension and freshen everything up. The drivers lower A-arm was beyond repair, so that and all the suspension and steering wear components were replaced. I cleaned up and painted the front of the frame while it was all apart. I also put in a Jeep Grand Cherokee steering box for quicker ratio steering. The brakes were trashed from rust, so new discs, bearings, seals, calipers etc.

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Burned out the old bushing rubber - very quick method if you're not worried about paint.

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waiting for the old shell removal and sandblast
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fresh paint, ball joints and bushing shells. We ordered a full kit from energy suspension to replace all the old bushings.
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and all back together
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Congrats, good to see it stays in the family!:thumbup::beer:

It was us fixing it, or to the crusher. I think we made the right call.


Love the 68 GTO. One day hopefully I'll get to build one also. Good luck on the project and I'll definitely be following along.

~Jim~

It's going to be a wild right, thanks for watching Jim.

My high school buddy had a 68 goat - 400 ci motor 400 trans and dual gate shifter. White exterior with red interior. Fun times. We graduated 1981.

Wish you the best with the build!

Thanks!

used to live in Newburgh
didnt leave anything there so never went back

I grew up across the river in Hyde Park. Small world.

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On to the first body project – the trunk. At some point a critter made a house in the trunk, and defiled the floor to the point it rotted pretty significantly. It important to note that the critter was an acorn connoisseur. I’ve never seen so many acorns in a single space. Remember the oak tree from post 1, it provided a near endless food supply. Acorns made it into every nook and cranny. I may dub this the acorn rebuild…

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Both of these photos were taken after the 2nd power washing session. Removal of the the 1” thick layer of funk revealed there was much rust and not much floor.

I cut the old floor out leaving the braces in place. We ordered a new floor in three sections and patched it in. It was doing the seam welding that I realized finishing the car with only a TiG welder was going to be a challenge. After a few hours contorted in the trunk, there was not a lot of mental justification required on my part to grab a Hobart 189 MiG that was on sale at the local TSC.

Out with the old:
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fitting in the new:
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sealed up and weld through primer on the edges:
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plug welding the third panel:
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Patched in:
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I realized I left too large of a gap on the front wall - that took some extra fiddling to close up.

All welded in and sealed. For some reason the photo washed out. I'll grad another this weekend and replace it.
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With that the major work in the truck is done. I need to buy the body plugs and some adhesive to finish it off.


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Fortunately the only missing major part I've discovered in the evaporator, blower motor and housing. The only minor parts so far are the trunk lock.


Trunk is keyed same a glove box,get the code from it and have a new trunk lock rekeyed for that.

You said evaporator as in factory a/c?
If it was 64-7 Im sure I would have one.
68-72 wasnt something I collected a lot of factory a/c stuff for
but still have most of the under the hood stuff.
How about a factory power trunk release still in the box,NOS?
 

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looks like at some point the 4 piston brakes(67-8) were changed to single(69& up)
I did the same to my 67&68.But the 68 is going back to the 4 pistons for show purposes.
 
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looks like at some point the 4 piston brakes(67-8) were changed to single(69& up)
I did the same to my 67&68.But the 68 is going back to the 4 pistons for show purposes.

One of the POs did that - since I'm new to the Pontiac game it took me a while to figure out just what was going on with the calipers.

The outer portion on the HVAC system just arrived today, I now have everything less the blower motor and fan.

Depending one the $$ situation when this is ready to hit the road I may contact you about the trunk lock.

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I like this.

My first trip to the states some years ago chasing a young lady from CO saw me in the very fortunate position of having her brother loan me his for a day to take her out. Sooooooo much fun!

Sounds like a great time!

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