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1st pass with miller 211 MIG

05wrangler

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this is my 1st pass with my miller 211 mig welder. feel free to pick it apart. learning as I go. setting:

material: 1/8 black pipe
wire speed: 30 (set slow I don't move very fast yet)
amp setting: 6.5 @ 120V
Gas: just realized it was off :headscrat

what do you guys think?
don't mind the plywood :bitchslap

 
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gte718p

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Looks decent especially with gas off? Are you running flux core wire? it looks like you are and gas is not required. Clean the surface better before welding. Also chop a cross section to see how you did on penetration. Also need a side profile picture to judge.
 

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agreed! it's way too cold. Turn it up and lay in to that pipe. You want to see a real hot burn on the inside of that pipe.
 

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What size wire ? .030 ? Did you try the 211 on AUTOSET ? It seems to me to run HOTTER on auto. Check chart on cover for starting settings and go from there , up ? down. Do you have gas regulator set properly ? Are you on 115 volts or 230 power supply ?
Is the polarity correct ? page 28 MANUAL
 
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my wire is .03, I did try the autoset but seamed like it was feeding the wire to fast for me. so I set the wire feed on 30-35. my gas is set at 20. (from what I have read that might be a little high?). its running on 120 right now and polarity is set as from the factory where the clamp is your ground.
 

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I agree with everyone else it cold the first welds. You can see in the side profile it is stacking on top of the base instead of melting in. The weld on the bottom of the cross section of the second set might be a little hot. You have a fair intrusion into the inside.

I think your wire speed might be a little high on the gas welds. Still need to clean the base metal better. With gas shielded welding you shouldn't have as much **** on the bead.
 

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1st. Lets get a well built wire brush (good) or a grinder (best) and get to work on removing any paint or mill scale. You want to brush or grind down to shiny metal.

2nd. If you're using gas, don't use the flux core wire. for just gas, rub a little acetone on the bare metal after grinding. This gives me my prettiest welds. Do the same for flux.

3rd looks like you're getting the idea of heat. Start hot and as you go along (depending on gauge or if you're staying in the area) back of the hit just a touch. This will help with your learning curve and you'll get better as you go along. It's better to be a little hot than cold and risk a break. Too hot will compromise the weld as well by weakening the parent material around it which is more common on thinner materials.

last, your wire speed it too high. Your beads are close to even, damn good if you're a beginner. Slow that feed down till it's too slow, go a quarter inch and stop. Check your penetration and heat. If it's good you can start speeding up. If not, keep adjusting. Find some flat stuff too.
 
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thanks for the feed back guys!

1st. Lets get a well built wire brush (good) or a grinder (best) and get to work on removing any paint or mill scale. You want to brush or grind down to shiny metal.

2nd. If you're using gas, don't use the flux core wire. for just gas, rub a little acetone on the bare metal after grinding. This gives me my prettiest welds. Do the same for flux.

3rd looks like you're getting the idea of heat. Start hot and as you go along (depending on gauge or if you're staying in the area) back of the hit just a touch. This will help with your learning curve and you'll get better as you go along. It's better to be a little hot than cold and risk a break. Too hot will compromise the weld as well by weakening the parent material around it which is more common on thinner materials.

last, your wire speed it too high. Your beads are close to even, damn good if you're a beginner. Slow that feed down till it's too slow, go a quarter inch and stop. Check your penetration and heat. If it's good you can start speeding up. If not, keep adjusting. Find some flat stuff too.

I think the wire I am using is not flux. im going to try to score some flat steel from the iron workers at work tomorrow if I can and turn the wire down and heat. and see what I can do. my weld to me looks like it is really "tall". or thick. what do I need to do to clean it up and make nice have moons? could this be from my gas flow being to high? sry for the rookie questions.
 

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Go to weldingtipsandtricks.com ...watch all the mig videos.

Did this welder have flux core in it when you bought it?
 
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OK, I would read the manual and check for sure that the polarity is set for solid core. Then watch some of the vids, you will be cruisin in no time.
 

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thanks for the feed back guys!



I think the wire I am using is not flux. im going to try to score some flat steel from the iron workers at work tomorrow if I can and turn the wire down and heat. and see what I can do. my weld to me looks like it is really "tall". or thick. what do I need to do to clean it up and make nice have moons? could this be from my gas flow being to high? sry for the rookie questions.

Your gas will vary by machine. Check your specs. And the taller the joint, the colder it is so that would mean we need more heat and we need to slow down the feed. What you see is the result of the molten filler metal melting on top of your joint. What you want is the joint or base metal to melt with your filler wire. Definitely check out weldingtipsandtricks on youtube.

and just my personal opinion, it's best to learn on thinner stuff to get a better idea of how certain gauges are more/less sensitive to heat.
 

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I'm glad you started this thread!
I've already learned a couple tricks (like the acetone).
Keep up your practice, and GJ'ers, keep up the advice!
 

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Even with the gas on, you have SERIOUS porosity issues. Has nothing to do with your metal prep. As long as there isn't some heavy rust present, you're fine. I weld through rust, paint, zinc and millscale everyday

Are you using a gauge or a flowmeter? You wanna be right around 15-20cfh. C25, Co2?

Fluxcore looks like dull nickel, solid core looks like copper

SLOWER WIRE SPEED EQUALS HOTTER WELDS
 
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Even with the gas on, you have SERIOUS porosity issues. Has nothing to do with your metal prep. As long as there isn't some heavy rust present, you're fine. I weld through rust, paint, zinc and millscale everyday

Are you using a gauge or a flowmeter? You wanna be right around 15-20cfh. C25, Co2?

Fluxcore looks like dull nickel, solid core looks like copper

SLOWER WIRE SPEED EQUALS HOTTER WELDS

I am running 75/25 co2/A gas. I set my CFH to 20. I got some 1/8 inch steel yesterday and have been playing around with that. much easier than the pipe I started on
 

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I am running 75/25 co2/A gas. I set my CFH to 20. I got some 1/8 inch steel yesterday and have been playing around with that. much easier than the pipe I started on

Make sure the plate steel your working with is cleaned of the mill scale before you weld. It's a PiTA to get that **** off.
Keep up the work! I'm utilizing the tips from the GJ members here too! :thumbup:
 

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I didn't get the rebate either, but at $1015.00 for my 211, I figured I did pretty good buying it in Canada!

Mark
 
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