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tdkkart

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I'm considering this one. Look at what all is included.

https://www.directlift.com/Pro-Park-9-PLUS-Four-Post-Lift-P55C9.aspx


This is the one that I just installed a couple weeks ago. Very pleased, purchased from here:
http://www.derekweaver.com/rodders-garage/4-post-lifts/pro-park-9-plus-certified/

The extras included are options with BendPak, so by the time you order them for the BP the price pretty much comes out as a wash. Most BO dealer included shipping, most others don't, again a price difference, but you're paying for it one way or another. "Free shipping" is never free.
 

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Put me in the "hate four post" camp. I lift diesel pickups with a 2 post all day long with no problems.

If you are determined to buy a four post be aware that most have to be bolted down. They will not stand up on their own otherwise.

I do not know who makes a four post with a caster kit. I've never seen one in person or shopped for one.
 

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I installed a Challenger and a Rotary in my (work) shop and neither of those lifts will stand up by themselves.

I'd be interested in knowing which models do work with casters.
 

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Put me in the "hate four post" camp. I lift diesel pickups with a 2 post all day long with no problems.

If you are determined to buy a four post be aware that most have to be bolted down. They will not stand up on their own otherwise.

I do not know who makes a four post with a caster kit. I've never seen one in person or shopped for one.

In my experience, most four post lifts do not have to be bolted down. Also, most of the manufacturers sell caster kits for their four post lifts.

I'd had a Stinger lift in my garage for over ten years now, it's not bolted down and it has a caster kit. It's very stable when loaded, and it's easy to roll around with the caster kit even with a car on it (you can only move it with the car in the lowered position, of course.) Most of the other brands of residential four post lifts (Backyard Buddy, Bendpak and others) are similar.
 
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Gotta wonder where some people get their information??:headscrat:confused:

Are you in the business? Where are you getting your information? If I was looking a portable lift I would get the information from the horses mouth not from guys on a forum.

I did a little research today. I found caster kits were available for some of the newer, light duty, asian made lifts. Most of the 4 post lifts I looked at on the internet made no mention of portability or caster kits.

I've been in the automotive business longer than most of the members, here, have been alive. I've never seen (any) lift not bolted down. The (2) 4-post lifts I've set up myself had to be bolted down.

If you have more pertinent information, bring it. No need to disparage my comment.
 

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I agree that a 4 post would better bolted down and if you were in business using the 4 post you could be liable if it wasn't bolted down but in the home shop setting, like most of us are, I'd bet that most of the 4 post aren't bolted down.
 
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Are you in the business? Where are you getting your information? If I was looking a portable lift I would get the information from the horses mouth not from guys on a forum..........
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Blah Blah Blah........
I don't like you. You are just too smart for any of us!
 

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I really appreciate the input from people on this forum. Right now I am taking a close look at the BendPak 9XL and the Pro-Park 9 Plus Certified. Both look to be well built and priced ok. A third lift I'm considering is offered local to me (Minneapolis). Guys, please take a look at the following link and let me know how you think it compares to the BendPak and Pro-Park.

newfopolimoe.html


The company that sells it says they used to sell BendPak but this one is better. I'd appreciate input from people on this forum that know what to look for when purchasing a lift as I have no experience in this area.

Thanks in advance for your input.
 

69daytona4me

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Thanks for the input Ross/Kzoo. Keep the input coming guys. I hope to make a decision on this soon.
 

69daytona4me

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The BendPak rep says that a 220 powered pump will last longer than a 110 powered pump. Does that sound accurate? If so, I may have to have 220 put into the area where I will put the lift.
 

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The BendPak rep says that a 220 powered pump will last longer than a 110 powered pump. Does that sound accurate? If so, I may have to have 220 put into the area where I will put the lift.

That makes total sense. The 110v pump motor will have to work "harder" to move the same amount of hydraulic fluid under the same load so it stands to reason that it will not last as long as the 220v motor.

I've worked under a dozen 4 post lifts and helped a friend install one that had caster options and were not bolted down. It was noted in their user manual that the didn't need to be bolted down. The cross beams keep it all together once it's built.
 

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That makes total sense. The 110v pump motor will have to work "harder" ...

That makes no sense. The motor's feed voltage has nothing to do with how hard it works. A 1 HP 120v motor will work just as hard fed from 120 volts as a 1 HP 240V motor will work fed from 240 volts. The difference will be in the size of the wiring needed to connect the motor, switch contact ratings, etc., but other than that the motor itself doesn't know about voltage.
 

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That makes no sense. The motor's feed voltage has nothing to do with how hard it works. A 1 HP 120v motor will work just as hard fed from 120 volts as a 1 HP 240V motor will work fed from 240 volts. The difference will be in the size of the wiring needed to connect the motor, switch contact ratings, etc., but other than that the motor itself doesn't know about voltage.

The 110V pumps have a smaller HP motor, along with similarly smaller pump, which means they raise slower because they pump less volume. They can still lift the same weight, just slower. Assuming equal build quality there's no viable reason why they wouldn't last just as long as a 220v pump, or a 440V 3phase pump for that matter.
Most residential these days garages do not have 220v available, making 110v pumps available is nothing but a smart business decision by the lift manufacturers.
 
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