2017 Garage Sale Thread

[3baygarage]

That odd wrench is only marked "Charley" and is a "ratcheting" DOE - which I've never seen before now. I think Charley is the brand name. I'll take better pix today.

Brian

Oh, I referring to your unknown alloy steel dbe. Actually I see you have an unknown "s" wrench of military issue also, that I missed the first time. I'm sure the guys will be all over that.

That Charly, thats an oddball.

Honestly I think you deserve a "You ****" between seeing what you paid for the P&C square set, plus the C series Craftsman breaker bar, and the unmarked 1/4 set, not to mention the rest.

Hey, that stuff gets me going, unlike lathes, saws and drill presses. Sorry all .

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Thanks, 454ragtop. You are correct, and ttpete pointed out the same thing.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

That odd wrench is only marked "Charley" and is a "ratcheting" DOE - which I've never seen before now. I think Charley is the brand name.

That Charly, thats an oddball.

I don't see this wrench anywhere. Where am I missing it?

Oh, I was referring to your unknown alloy steel dbe.

That's a weird one. I was looking at it on the DBE thread. Vlchek used that term ("ALLOY STEEL") as a branding mechanism in the 1940's, but that doesn't look like a Vlchek DBE. (EDIT: they did make round shanked DBE's in the 30's, when they were using Chro-Moly.)

 

[gregaz]

First, let me say that this is an AWESOME thread. Thank you to those of you who participate. I love the hunt, and I love watching others score finds.

I've been dabbling in my area a bit - I live near Sun City, and there are many estates sales every weekend. It's kind of morbid, but I've found lots of really cool tools.

Then yesterday, I stumbled upon a mechanic who is selling off most of his tools. Scored some REALLY cool stuff in a single stop - and got a great deal to boot. Plus, the guy was super nice - an absolute pleasure to deal with.

Anyway, here are some highlights:

1. Kennedy 620 box that was full of tools. Some are keepers, some will be sold at a garage sale.
2. Several old-skool Bonney wrenches.
3. A Dunlap pipe wrench.
4. A Craftsman US made drill bit set.
5. A Blue Point valve spring compressor.
6. Some random Blue Point, Plomb, Hazet, Photo and Cornwell wrenches.
7. Coes monkey wrench.
8. Holo-Krome Hex set.

And honestly, this is like 50% of it.

Some photos are attached. Will post more in the next post.

 

[gregaz]

Continuation and a couple of questions -

Anyone know what the ratchet is? It takes a weird hexagonal socket.
What is this tool (the one with the holes in it - made by Indestro)? It was one of the ones already in the toolbox, but I don't even know what it is! LOL!

And a thought - is there a TRADE thread anywhere on here? I am also a member of Bike Forums, and the Vintage and Classic guys have a thread where people trade parts, or look for stuff that others may have in stock. I think this would be awesome - for example, as cool as the Bonney wrenches are, all of my cars are metric, and I would gladly trade these for some metric tool, or even something else. It would be cool to see these go to someone who could keep using them.

 

[jakemac]

The Indestro is a Flairing tool for flairing the ends of tubing to fit compression fittings on fuel and brake lines.

The ratchet is just a hex drive ratchet. An early attempt at a drive standard until the square drive finally won out.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Several old-skool Bonney wrenches.

Looking WWII from here. Bonney used a Letter-Letter (Month-Year) date code. Wartime date codes ended in S, T, U, V, and W. Please let me know what they are. Also, I can see the Industrial Standard Numbers (ISN's) on several of the wrenches, including 1034, 1033-C, and 1731-A. What are the others?

The ratchet is just a hex drive ratchet.

True, but looking awfully Plomb-ish to me!

 

[I8AWRENCH]

Not many good looking estate sales going on last few weeks so I have resorted to Facebook and hit the flea market last weekend. Paid a decent amount for these ratchet wrenches but nowhere near new prices and these are brand new ones. All my RWs are flat or flex/flop depending on brand so these will work out nice. 250 for both sets.
At the flea picked up a fl80f and a f936 for 60 once again not screaming deals but I'll flip the 36 so I can have the flex for a decent price.

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Maybe my favorite pick as of late - $2 at the flea . Not one for stickers on the tool boxes but this might go on the side of one - aluminum too !




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[Craptain]

It has "Patina" the seller said. LOL .... But I bought it anyway for $20. And it came with some original paperwork that I haven't yet checked out.

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[3baygarage]

I don't see this wrench anywhere. Where am I missing it?


That's a weird one. I was looking at it on the DBE thread. Vlchek used that term ("ALLOY STEEL") as a branding mechanism in the 1940's, but that doesn't look like a Vlchek DBE. (EDIT: they did make round shanked DBE's in the 30's, when they were using Chro-Moly.)

It's within the Williams flare nut set.

The Indestro is a Flairing tool for flairing the ends of tubing to fit compression fittings on fuel and brake lines.

The ratchet is just a hex drive ratchet. An early attempt at a drive standard until the square drive finally won out.

Looking WWII from here. Bonney used a Letter-Letter (Month-Year) date code. Wartime date codes ended in S, T, U, V, and W. Please let me know what they are. Also, I can see the Industrial Standard Numbers (ISN's) on several of the wrenches, including 1034, 1033-C, and 1731-A. What are the others?


True, but looking awfully Plomb-ish to me!

I wouldn't be surprised if someone modded a 9/32 drive ratchet into a 1/4 hex.
Or it could be factory


Gregaz- thanks for joining us. The more the merrier in the GS thread.
Are those two sockets next to the ratchet hex drive? If they are, any chance you could take a side pic of them. If they dont look like Plomb it's possible someone altered the ratchet to fit them.

It has "Patina" the seller said. LOL .... But I bought it anyway for $20. And it came with some original paperwork that I haven't yet checked out.

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Very nice patina for sure! Please do post up the paperwork on the box if you have that.

 

[Rileysan]

I don't see this wrench anywhere. Where am I missing it?

That Charley "ratcheting" DOE was with the Williams line wrench set I purchased. The camera ran out of space on the memory card so will have to get a detailed picture later.

Brian

First, let me say that this is an AWESOME thread. Thank you to those of you who participate. I love the hunt, and I love watching others score finds.

Be careful not to get too wrapped up with this thread! A lot of these guys are pros and will make you crazy trying to keep up!

Brian

 

[Rileysan]

I cleaned up the rest of my swap meet items this morning and found some really interesting items. I know that sounds weird - how do you "find" interesting items the day after you bought them?!?

When digging through the dollar tables, I have a tendency to throw items in my bucket without more than a glance. These items might include things I'm looking for, things I know have value, or things I think are unusual. It was the latter that caught me off guard this morning!

First off, here's a photo of all the dollar items I bought. Every thing here was $1/ea including the sockets, which I don't like to pay that much for unless they are truck brands or something I'm looking for.

This lot covers all the good stuff. Snap-on, Williams, Plomb, Proto, P&C, S-K, Blackhawk, Bondhus, Allen, & Craftsman. I'll get to the oddball items next post.

For those interested, here's a few of the more interesting items:

- Snap-on F-4-D "Ferret" 3/8" drive speed wrench
- Blue Point No. 2225 11/16" x 25/32" DOE
- Plomb #3226 3/8" x 11/32" right angle DOE
- S-K #40253 1/2" drive breaker bar. The knurled handle is the same diameter as the rest of the shank, which I find unusual.
- Plomb 1/2" drive Drag Link socket
- Craftsman BE 1/2" drive, 3/4" deep socket to complete my set!
- Very early Phillips right angle #3 & #4 screwdriver. The stamping states: "Phillips Lic. 7" "Pat. ***" "Bridgeport, Ct. USA"

Brian

 

[Rileysan]

Now for the interesting stuff. When I grabbed the female ratchet, it was covered in paint & rust and the maker's name wasn't readable. All I did was make sure the ratcheting mechanism worked before I tossed it in my bucket, then I forgot about it.

So what is it? It is a "Lowell Wrench Co." No. 22 reversible 5/8" drive ratchet. That's right, reversible! At the end of the handle is a thumb screw selector. It's missing a screw on the cover plate but other than that, it seems complete, and it works perfectly!





Next up is a Blackhawk socket set. I had to dig for a good 30 minutes to find all of these sockets on that table and I hope I didn't leave any behind. My first thought was "these look odd" but I couldn't put my finger on it. Other than the locking pins, the only other thing that stuck out to me was that every socket had a patent # on it. Who goes through that much trouble to stamp a socket with that much information?!?

As I was cleaning them up this morning, I learned what it was I was missing. This set is 7/16" drive! This is the first time I've ever come across 7/16" drive tools of any type. I have work to do to learn exactly what I have here, but now I'm happy to have spent $1/ea.

The front row are 8-pt sockets and back row are 12-pt sockets.

All sockets are marked with the following:

- "Blackhawk"
- "Made in USA"
- "US Pat's. 1927844 Re. 19287"
- Model #
- Sizes: 3/8" to 1"






Note: I accidentally left a 1/2" deep socket from this set out of the picture.


Brian

 

[LesserSon]

Great finds, guys!
Last week while the wife and I were walking dogs, I picked up two tool totes, one if which was a Kennedy filled with mostly junk: used and cracked sparkplugs, a few washers and 12 pieces of security-type lightweight lugnuts. Free is free.
I hit the Quakertown flea late Saturday morning driving back north from returning my daughter’s lab puppy to her in Philly. Just bought random small items toward filling holes in socket sets. I bought a 1/4dr Bonney refrigeration ratchet for $2 and left behind a Whitworth Blue Point Supreme DOE for $5. Also spotted a leather-handled SK tool tote with the high-peaked top. It was painted black on the outside but dark brown original inside. Haven’t gotten around to cleaning the last SK tote I bought, so I let that go, too.
Pumpkin-pie Blizzards are back at Dairy Queen!
Sunday morning, we took a drive up rt33 past Wind Gap to the Blue Ridge flea. Haven’t been there since last year. Passed up a Bonney 7/16 nutdriver and a Bonney cape chisel that had been ground to a narrow profile for some reason. Wish now I had bought both, but oh well. I did get a Bonney CV 1/2dr extension for $3, while passing on an Indestro 1/2dr extension with both ends male for $5. And for $1, bought this cast iron Calder wheel dresser.

 

[gregaz]

Looking WWII from here. Bonney used a Letter-Letter (Month-Year) date code. Wartime date codes ended in S, T, U, V, and W. Please let me know what they are. Also, I can see the Industrial Standard Numbers (ISN's) on several of the wrenches, including 1034, 1033-C, and 1731-A. What are the others?


True, but looking awfully Plomb-ish to me!

Just checked - it appears that I have quite a few war-era ones in the batch. See the pictures. Any specifics you need - just let me know!

<SNIP>
Gregaz- thanks for joining us. The more the merrier in the GS thread.
Are those two sockets next to the ratchet hex drive? If they are, any chance you could take a side pic of them. If they dont look like Plomb it's possible someone altered the ratchet to fit them.
<SNIP>

Thank you - and see the pictures.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Craptain: That's a cool Herbrand box. I think Twertsy just picked up the same one. Are you going to remove the decal and blast it? Are those Racing-related stickers? Herbrand was the official tool supplier for the Indy 500 for many years, and in the classic years. ;

I wouldn't be surprised if someone modded a 9/32 drive ratchet into a 1/4 hex. Or it could be factory

I don't know either, but it was definitely made by Plomb or one of Plomb's factories. Many of the branded and unbranded ratchets have that "0" forge mark. EDIT: I just saw that gregaz posted a shot of the flip side as I was posting this. See the mismatched screws? I'm thinking your hunch was good.

That Charley "ratcheting" DOE was with the Williams line wrench set I purchased.

I see it now. I was looking for something akin to a CAM-LOC wrench. Why are you calling it a "ratcheting" wrench? It looks like a DOE with a hex throat, like old Cornwell and MAC. Am I missing something?

- S-K #40253 1/2" drive breaker bar. The knurled handle is the same diameter as the rest of the shank, which I find unusual.

Williams did that for awhile in the 40's too.

 

[3baygarage]

Yep. Thanks Gregaz. Those would appear to be indestro hex sockets with the ratchet.

 

[Craptain]

Craptain: That's a cool Herbrand box. I think Twertsy just picked up the same one. Are you going to remove the decal and blast it? Are those Racing-related stickers? Herbrand was the official tool supplier for the Indy 500 for many years, and in the classic years. ;
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Actually no. To both questions. I intend to use a chemical de-rust in order to preserve as much as possible. And the original owner worked for a Cadillac dealer. One of the decals is from the dealer. The other is a union logo. I will post close ups of both later.

It is actually going to become a machinist chest for me.

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[Rileysan]

I see it now. I was looking for something akin to a CAM-LOC wrench. Why are you calling it a "ratcheting" wrench? It looks like a DOE with a hex throat, like old Cornwell and MAC. Am I missing something?

Sears marketed the Craftsman version of these as "ratcheting open end" wrenches because you could reverse directions 60° and the design allowed the wrench to slip back to a new position without pulling the head of the wrench off the fastener. They were not well received!

Brian

 

[Private Lugnutz]

It is actually going to become a machinist chest for me.

Nice.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Sears marketed the Craftsman version of these as "ratcheting open end" wrenches because you could reverse directions 60° and the design allowed the wrench to slip back to a new position without pulling the head of the wrench off the fastener. They were not well received!

Haha. Okay. So, just like you can do with a round throat DOE wrench if you're good with it, except it would grab for sure every time. Interesting. Referring to that as "ratcheting" was a bit of a stretch by Craftsman, but a clever collaboration between design and marketing. Thanks.

 

[glenmore]

My treasure find this past weekend, a WW2 barbed wire cutter, dated 1942 for a couple bucks.

 

[Outlawmws]

It has "Patina" the seller said. LOL .

Very nice patina for sure! Please do post up the paperwork on the box if you have that.

Lugz: See?

 

[NJ Marty]

I did ok at the last sale I hit. All old stuff and a few full beers also.
All was bundled for about $30

 

[Outlawmws]

Sears marketed the Craftsman version of these as "ratcheting open end" wrenches because you could reverse directions 60° and the design allowed the wrench to slip back to a new position without pulling the head of the wrench off the fastener. They were not well received!

Brian

Haha. Okay. So, just like you can do with a round throat DOE wrench if you're good with it, except it would grab for sure every time. Interesting. Referring to that as "ratcheting" was a bit of a stretch by Craftsman, but a clever collaboration between design and marketing. Thanks.

Quite a few companies played with the idea including SO. I have a few Craftsman "Combo" versions and these SO DOE ratcheting wrenches.

In certain applications they can be very handy, but not for general use. There is also learning the trick of it which can be frustrating for the thumb fingered... I can't see my brother mastering it easily for instance ...

 

[Smokeshow69]

Quite a few companies played with the idea including SO. I have a few Craftsman "Combo" versions and these SO DOE ratcheting wrenches.



In certain applications they can be very handy, but not for general use. There is also learning the trick of it which can be frustrating for the thumb fingered... I can't see my brother mastering it easily for instance ...

Yes, well explained... You will not use them often, but when you do, they are worth their weight in gold!


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[Private Lugnutz]

Lugz: See?

I did see that! Haha. But I'm pretty sure Craptain was being facetious and that 3bay was playing along after that. Unlike the seller, who apparently meant it.

I'm not going to argue with you guys on the "ratcheting" DOE's. They seem gimmicky to me, and I've gotten along fine without them so far, but I can imagine applications where they would be useful, especially with the slimmer profile, when you can't get a CAM-LOC around a fastener.

 

[Craptain]

I did see that! Haha. But I'm pretty sure Craptain was being facetious and that 3bay was playing along after that. Unlike the seller, who apparently meant it.

Nailed it.

So I looked at the papers and they have nothing to do with the box. Take a look anyway. And a look at the decals.

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[tjdux]

Ok so i scored to decent bench vices today. $20 a peice but both are in need of some TLC and repair.

First one is a Cummin brand with a spinning head that has regular and pipe jaws. Unfortunately it's not an american made brand (china sticker right on it), but not bad vice for $20. It's major issue is that the head doesn't lock. I also am not even sure what the locking mechanism is.

My only guess is that it's somwthing to do with this collar on the rear end.

Now this second one im far more excited about.

I can't find a brand anywhere but its got most of the model number on this sticker and i bet some you the vice junkies on here will know just from that big 6 on the side.

Its issue is that the handle is missing and that it will not tighten. When i spin the rod it moves out but will not pull back in.

I think I've read that there's a thread for vice repair somewhere here on GJ im sure they could help me out some. Does anyone have a handy link for it?

Thanks

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[3baygarage]

Probably this thread:

Vise Repair 101

I do believe that big vise is also an import. If it opens/closes though, I'm sure a handle can be fitted somehow and you have yourself a big vise at a fair price.

 

[tjdux]

Probably this thread:

Vise Repair 101

I do believe that big vise is also an import. If it opens/closes though, I'm sure a handle can be fitted somehow and you have yourself a big vise at a fair price.

Thanks that's the link i was searching for i beleive. Be nice if it's not an import but for 20 bucks and assuming i can fix it cheap enough, yeah, not gonna be too unhappy.

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[3baygarage]

If you Google around for images look for Duracraft vises and Rockford to see some similar.

 

[454ragtop]

Thanks that's the link i was searching for i beleive. Be nice if it's not an import but for 20 bucks and assuming i can fix it cheap enough, yeah, not gonna be too unhappy.

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Sadly, it is a generic Asian import. Your other vise with the rotating head may lock the rotation when you tighten something in the jaws. Give it a try, I have one like that.

 

[chrislehr]

Picked up my pallet from a recent IRS auctions win or three. everything there, shipped was about $450.

24 24" clamps (Jorgensen)
25 3 way pony clamps (us)
4" vise (wilton US)
5" vise - unknown something chicago made
ww vise from jorg (us)

 

[lowbucktruck]

Wow Craptain... that Herbrand chest is freaking cool. Nice find!

 

[3baygarage]

Made the rounds this week, stopping at a pawn shop yesterday, another pawn shop and flea market today, and then a CL sale.

Yesterday yielded the 5 pieces up at the top for $5. Snap On flat blade, Mac spark plug swivel and deep impacts, a Kobalt (Williams) deep, and a short SK 3/8 extension.

Today I found the long Snap On Phillips for $10 at a pawn shop.

Checked out a CL sale and found the Snap on short phillips to match! The yellow Snap On tri lobe, 3/4 TRW ratchet , large Billings adjustable with Pierce Arrow stamp, and twin Fleet and Proto Challenger ratchets. Something to the tune of $73. Not cheap but worth the ride. Met another cool tool enthusiast.

The rest is from the flea market for $15:

Proto 1-1/4" angle wrench to go with those from last week. Again .

SK 3/8 ratchet, SK wrenches and a Bonney, Proto 4" adjustable, Klein pliers, Wright ratchet wrench, old Craftsman amber 1/8 screwdriver, Husky 1/4 socket driver.

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[3baygarage]

A close up of the Pierce Arrow logo, so you guys don't think I'm b-sing.

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[BlueBomber]

A close up of the Pierce Arrow logo, so you guys don't think I'm b-sing.

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3Bay, that's a cool old wrench, but it is from the Pierce bicycle company, rather than the Pierce-Arrow automobile manufacturer. Somewhere in my stash I've got a DOE or an SOE witht he same logo, and I got excited too, at first. Still, a pretty cool find--easily first few decades of the 20th century.

 

[duddly]

3Bay, that's a cool old wrench, but it is from the Pierce bicycle company, rather than the Pierce-Arrow automobile manufacturer. Somewhere in my stash I've got a DOE or an SOE witht he same logo, and I got excited too, at first. Still, a pretty cool find--easily first few decades of the 20th century.

(I don't have either but..) I believe the Pierce Arrow bicycle tools tended to be 6 inches or less - if that is a 15 inch wrench it may be automobile.

(either way it's a cool wrench!)

 

[BlueBomber]

I don't think so. Pierce-Arrow tools had "Pierce-Arrow" on them. The "Pierce" name with the arrow shape on either side was the logo/trademark used by the bicycle company.

Again, I thought I had one too, and was really excited, but after researching it, I discovered otherwise.
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