2017 Garage Sale Thread

[Outlawmws]

Late to the party with my + 1!

Outlaw:

Like others have said, that New Process drill bit holder is great.

Looks like they started around 1880, but not sure when the company ended production.

Mike

Thanks Lugz and Mike!

Mike, looks like we found the same reference:

New Process Twist Drill Company is a Massachusetts Domestic Profit Corporation filed on December 1, 1888. The company's filing status is listed as Involuntary Dissolution and its File Number is 041667210. The company's principal address is (was) 34 Court St, Taunton, MA 02780.


Address is now a parking lot. It once was "riverfront" property, but I think that is now under ground?

 

[Bill Ramsey]

That index is art.

Will you restore, or leave like this?

 

[jakemac]

rmalkow2 - love the mancave score.

 

[Outlawmws]

Thanks Bill. I think this one gets the Etank, and a place of honor on my little indoor workbench. I'll keep it bare metal I think.

 

[poppinjohnnies]

Got these goodies today. Magneto test bench, bent propeller for a wall hangar, cool old battery charger, metal rollers, anda sweet old Delta band saw.

 

[poppinjohnnies]

Not sure why these pictures are sideways...

 

[Outlawmws]

Nice finds on the slip rolls and edge turner (I think) Didn't see the propeller?

 

[poppinjohnnies]

Here’s the prop. That thing is an edge roller- a very old one.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Here's where I posted phots from today's haul...

Challenger's Warrior 24-pc combination socket set on its own thread here.

Cornwell obstruction wrenches on the 'Show off your DOEs thread' here.

Snap-On, Blue-Point and Herbrand DBE wrenches on the 'Show off your DBEs thread' here.

The Red Devil JAK-NIFE on the 'Red Devil' thread here.

Bonney stuff on the 'Bonney affliction' thread here.

DUNLOP tyre spoons here.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Thumbnails attached of the antique "VLCHEK" special combo wrench.

Matches the branding on this "VLCHEK" flat head valve lifter I found earlier this year, which dates to 1915.

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[Provincial]

Lugs, that Vlchek combo wrench is just like the one Ford put in the standard tool kit with each car. The open end is for spark plugs and the box end is for head nuts. The size of the open end determines which year car it fit. Earlier cars had a bigger hex on the spark plugs, hence a larger open end.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Thanks, Provincial.

 

[ktkawaguchi]

I have been lurking all around GJ and came across this thread looking up a thrift store find and ended up skimming the whole thread from start to finish. I wanted to post today's finds from a garage/tool only family run estate sale today. I'll list out what my bundled $30 took home. I spent a few hours figuring out what I could about many of them, but perhaps folks here can enlighten me where I've fallen short. If anybody wants better detailed pics of anything or any questions at all about these please let me know.

Arcturus Mfg Corp 41-W-1008-10. ⅝ and ¾+
Armstrong 27A DOE 9/16 and ⅝
Armstrong 672 Slightly Offset DOE ⅜ and 7/16
Coes Monkey Wrench 10-⅛ long (MFG Under L COES pat2 Steel)
Dunlap Pipe Wrench 14 inch (12 inch closed) Germany
Ford M 01A-17017B Offset DBE (Moore Forge) 1940-1948 Model A Head Nut and Spark Plug
Hinsdale HD5 Slight offset round DBE 13/16 and ⅞ 1933 to late 1930s
Indestro Economy Combo ⅞ and ¾ pointed oval panel Select Steel Made in USA not Chicago
[Indestro] Select Steel Offset DBE 13/16 and ⅞
Indestro Nut and Tap DOE ⅞ and 1 Keyhole
Indestro Nut and Tap DOE ¾ and ⅝ Square hole
Indestro Nut and Tap DOE ½ and 9/16 Square hole
Klein Diagonal Cutters 1950 Logo
LectroLite TruFit 3004 Offset DBE ¾ and 25/32 1945 to late 1940s
McKaig-Hatch L6468 SOE 13/16 Plain Circle MH
NASA 1161 Combo 7/16 Stamped J toward box end
OTC E2528 DOE Chrome Vanadium ⅞ and 25/32
P&C 2234 Slight offset round DBE 1-1/16 and ⅞
Pexto 13-7 Gas Burner Plier
Plvmb 1136 DBE 11/16 and ⅞ 1945 to 1948
Stanley No 12 Square
Williams Superrench 1039A DOE 1-½ and 1-5/16 ALLOY and V

??? Rusty V-5???? DOOE ⅞ and ⅞
??? Rusty ????? DOE ¾ and 13/16 Hexagon C stamped
??? Rusty ???? (BU[HN][LE] stamped into handle) DOE ¾ and 15/16
??? Gas Burner Plier no markings found

Honestly some of the rusty pieces are for me to experiment with electro-un-rust-plating steel. I have not yet come to a conclusion if taking the rust off tools is better or if it is cherished 'patina' like on other vintage items.

I'll gather up some of my thrift store and garage sale finds into another post. I normally just buy what I would use or find interesting. But this thread has inflicted me with a disease...I mean new hobby

Happy Hunting Everybody.

Kevin.

 

[3baygarage]

Thanks for joining us.

We welcome your finds. The disease keeps spreading around this place and believe me the doctor is never in.

 

[3baygarage]

lugz must have been Vlchek day, I picked up one of their all steel screwdrivers.

Today was a pretty good day at the flea. There was a vendor with a lot of tools selling things for $1 and less.

I pieced this Kraeuter set of single offset ends together. They were mixed around. First found 2, then another,etc.. Found the last two under a stack of jeans. That's always fun. Still missing a few pieces but this is all he had.

Pics of other stuff tomorrow hopefully.

 

[Mr_P]

Welcome aboard ktkawaguchi. I live in Fresno for about a year and a half but didn't have a shop for all my goodies now, I'm sure you'll find plenty of good sales to build your toolset out there.

 

[Mr_P]

I guess I don't need this extra hour of sleep tonight. How's about some eyecandy for anyone else with this problem.... here's my $2 buy from an estate sale yesterday. Most items came from the free pile except for the 2 Starrett Calipers and the Harold O. Baker machinist vise.....

 

[Mr_P]

Here are the pics

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[Private Lugnutz]

Arcturus Mfg Corp 41-W-1008-10. ⅝ and ¾+
Indestro Nut and Tap DOE ⅞ and 1 Keyhole
Indestro Nut and Tap DOE ¾ and ⅝ Square hole
Indestro Nut and Tap DOE ½ and 9/16 Square hole
I have not yet come to a conclusion if taking the rust off tools is better or if it is cherished 'patina' like on other vintage items.

The Arcturus is from WWII. That's an early Federal Stock Number. Nobody has ever seen any other Arcturus tool or any DOE wrench without an FSN. Conclusion is they formed to take advantage of wartime contracts.

The Indestros are from an auto-kit, kept together with a thumbnut through the middle. Not common. Not rare, but not common in my experience. I see plenty of J.P. Danielson and unbranded. EDIT: GJ member four.cycle may have a different assessment.

In my experience in live auctions, and in other exchanges with peer collectors, rust is never considered a patina on antique or vintage steel or iron tools. Brass, copper and other metals oxidize differently, and more aesthetically pleasing when unchecked. You'll never see a crust of rust on a rare tool sold in a serious auction.

 

[kythri]

The Arcturus is from WWII. That's an early Federal Stock Number. Nobody has ever seen any other Arcturus tool or any DOE wrench without an FSN. Conclusion is they formed to take advantage of wartime contracts.

Possible this is the same company?

https://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=62277335

http://www.pccforgedproducts.com/brands/wyman_gordon/america/locations/oxnard/overview/

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Almost certainly, kythri. Address was Santa Monica during the war, iirc.

 

[BlueBomber]

Kevin: welcome! This thread (and it's annual predecessors) had been responsible for increasing the localized gravity fields at many GJ garages as we accumulate more stuff from sales and garages. The challenge is keeping our places from becoming like some of the unorganized hoards that we pick!

3bay: cool set of Krauters. Could you post some closer in shots of wrench shape and labeling on the DBE thread? I'm a sucker for single offset double box ends.

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[mike_paxton]

Got these goodies today. Magneto test bench, bent propeller for a wall hangar, cool old battery charger, metal rollers, anda sweet old Delta band saw.

Poppinjohnnies, Like the items you got today, especially the Delta band saw.


3Bay, wrenches you got were worth the effort. Good find in the jeans section!!!


Mr. P--Can you imagine the work it took to put owner name into that vise?


Outlaw: Not a lot of info could be located on New Process.

BTW, you probably are like me, I have a lot of clocks that are easier to just unplug and plug back in later when the "right " time rolls around after the "fall back" time change.

Mike

 

[ktkawaguchi]

The Arcturus is from WWII. That's an early Federal Stock Number. Nobody has ever seen any other Arcturus tool or any DOE wrench without an FSN. Conclusion is they formed to take advantage of wartime contracts.

In my experience in live auctions, and in other exchanges with peer collectors, rust is never considered a patina on antique or vintage steel or iron tools.

Thank you very much! I was curious about the Arcturus since the most solid reference I came across was in a Willys Jeep forum. Maybe this wrench will get united with a WWII tool box. I added DOE and early FSN to my documentation.

I'm glad to hear your perspective on rust not being a patina. Personally I think of it more like damage especially when associated with cast iron or carbon steel cookware. I figure tools are in the same ball park as heirloom cast iron (depending on your views/priorities). I didn't want to be "that guy" who ruined a piece by cleaning it up.

Thanks everybody for the warm welcome and sense of community.

Kevin.

 

[Outlawmws]

It depends on HOW you clean up the rust. Abrasives are to be avoided, heavy wire wheel marks don't add to anything, nor does sand blast marks or sanding...

This is one reason E-tanks are so popular. Nothing gets removed but rust... Not the only way to go, but does the job non destructively. Phosphoric acid can also help but not if plating is involved, (Same with an E-tank don't do plated parts...). Evaporust is well thought of, generally, al have a place. Citric acid, Vinegar, Molasses, its a long list of possibilities...

 

[stewed baker]

So much knowledge to be gained from looking over the "annual predecessors"
I think 2012 was the first for the garage sale thread ?
Yeah, it's a disease.

 

[Outlawmws]

Yeah, 2012 was the year Jeff initiated the GS threads.

 

[jakemac]

Two stops today. An estate sale that was a bust, and a commercial contractor liquidating a three generation business.

The contractor's shop had some great stuff. Everything from sockets to the forklift was up for sale. Unfortunately, despite the CL ad stating that they wanted to clear everything out, the prices didn't reflect that ($5ea for craftsman G code sockets with owners marks heavily engraved). I quickly became afraid of asking about the prices on the unmarked stuff after seeing what they were asking for clapped out machinery that had been tagged.

I walked out with two NOS 12" saw blades. The only reason I paid their price was because they had never been used, and I had been carrying them around the site while I looked at everything else on the property. No screaming deals here.

Craftsman Kromedge 9-32499 72T 1" arbor (w/insert) combo blade $20
Delta 35-657 60T carbide combo blade $40



$60 total.

So many things I had to pass on. Including small Knack boxes, wall cabinets (one was a SnapOn), a severely abused Wilton bullet, etc.

 

[r_olson_06]

I guess I don't need this extra hour of sleep tonight. How's about some eyecandy for anyone else with this problem.... here's my $2 buy from an estate sale yesterday. Most items came from the free pile except for the 2 Starrett Calipers and the Harold O. Baker machinist vise.....

Is that a Plomb Victor wrench?

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[ttpete]

Thanks, Provincial.

If there's a Ford part number on it, I can tell you the year it was issued.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

No number. Appears to be a Vlchek aftermarket, not Ford kit issue.

 

[ttpete]

No number. Appears to be a Vlchek aftermarket, not Ford issue.

That's odd. The Model A version had a large plug wrench for the 7/8" plugs and the early V8 wrench was for 18 mm plugs. There was a version for the V8-60 that used 14 mm plugs.

 

[Mr_P]

Is that a Plomb Victor wrench?

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It is a Victor RT-20 (Made by Proto in Los Angeles)

 

[3baygarage]

So much knowledge to be gained from looking over the "annual predecessors"
I think 2012 was the first for the garage sale thread ?
Yeah, it's a disease.

It's fun to look back at the GS threads. Time consuming too. I went through one a while back, mostly looking at pictures, and split it up in two parts. If you really want to have fun, read some of the comments. Some funny stuff mixed in there.

Yeah, 2012 was the year Jeff initiated the GS threads.

The instigator.



BlueBomber - here's the Kraeuter set.

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Only the largest is stamped on the top, the rest underneath. I hope to clean these up.

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[3baygarage]

Yesterday's haul:

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Lugz That Vlchek driver is at the top.

Wood chisels by Pexto, Stanley, unknown, a made in Germany.

Vise grip chain style.

Pile of misc Craftsman.

Pile of all Klein pliers.

Mics by Lufkin, Starrett.
Eclipse center punch.

Drivers by Bluegrass, Craftsman, Ace, SK.

Williams line wrenches. Berylco and B Shield dbe wrenches.
Heller Masterench.

A bent 4" crescent in the middle, along with an odd plier. More on that later.

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This is all Snap On up top.

Williams 1/4 ratchet.

Sockets are Mac, SK, Craftsman, Ampro, Duro stud remover,K-D combo

 

[rallenc]

Those Krauteers look amazingly similar to the X series BluePoint wrenches of that same vintage.

 

[3baygarage]

Those Krauteers look amazingly similar to the X series BluePoint wrenches of that same vintage.

I was thinking the same. First one I picked up I thought it would be BP.

Didn't realize just about every company back then made single offsets too!

 

[3baygarage]

Went to another flea today.

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cheap cutters, free with purchase
Chisel- Stanley
Snips-Wiss
Snap On dist. wrench
USN padlock
Snap on, Mac chisels
blue point mini screw starter
Plomb yarning iron
Drivers- Sparta, Craftsman, Proto
2x Muffler cutters, Chrome Alloy and unknown

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Wrenches

Proto x2, Plomb, little Crompton and Knowles??? (New to me), Gray Canada, OTC, Mystery S stamp wrench (looks like Proto?, more on that later too), Gray Canada.

 

[3baygarage]

Finally got me one of these Chrome Alloy 4070 ratchets! Came with the SK sockets.

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Blackhawk 3/8" flex head
JS 1/2"
Thorsen 3/8
Napa rhft 3/8
Stanley Workmaster 3/8
imperial refrig. wrench
Walden 1/4 t bar
Plomb 9/32 extension

Misc. Cman, Walden, SK, Mac, Cman,Bonney, Proto, Snap On

 

[Private Lugnutz]

That's odd. The Model A version had a large plug wrench for the 7/8" plugs and the early V8 wrench was for 18 mm plugs. There was a version for the V8-60 that used 14 mm plugs.

Pete,
Did you see the wrench in question? It's not a Ford-marked wrench. When I posted it earlier, mixed in with the rest of the haul, I said it looked Ford-ish to me. And Provincial confirmed. But it's not marked with anything but "VLCHEK". I posted thumbnails in this thread. The open end is 15/16" and the hex opening is 5/8".

EDIT: AA has a similar wrench, which they attribute to the Model T. Their example has a non-detachable socket forged on the end, not a 6-point box end. Same opening sizes.