2017 Garage Sale Thread

[duddly]

Picked at a sale last nite. Its a WW-II bomb hoist used by the navy to load bombs to the underwing of the pby catalina seaplane. When needed its mounted on top of the wing and hand winched the bomb into its holding sling. A movie here showing its use @7:00 into the film. You have to watch fast to see the guys on top of the wing cranking up the bomb.

STORY OF THE BLACK CATS
https://archive.org/details/gov.archives.arc.12990

Awesome find! loved the film showing how it was used!

 

[Outlawmws]

Wow, some nice scores being found here guys! Well Done!

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Picked at a sale last nite. Its a WW-II bomb hoist used by the navy to load bombs to the underwing of the pby catalina seaplane.

Wow! That is a terrific acquisition, wrenchguy. Do you live near the CRANE Navy Surface Warfare Center?

I put together a little excerpt from my War Supply Contracts book for you. If you look at the bottom of the list you'll see "PORTABLE BOMB HOISTS" were contracted by name by the Bureau of Ordnance. Not sure why the contract dates are 1943. Yours was either bought under one of the many 1942 contracts with Bureau of Ships (NOS) or Bureau of Aeronautics (NXS) and supplied to the Bureau of Ordnance, or supplied to the Bureau of Ordnance direct in 1942 but on a contract that was less than $50,000 in value and therefore not recorded in this book. Either way, neat to see it. Always like when living history and recorded history meet!

 

[wrenchguy]

Wow! That is a terrific acquisition, wrenchguy. Do you live near the CRANE Navy Surface Warfare Center?

I put together a little excerpt from my War Supply Contracts book for you. If you look at the bottom of the list you'll see "PORTABLE BOMB HOISTS" were contracted by name by the Bureau of Ordnance. Not sure why the contract dates are 1943. Yours was either bought under one of the many 1942 contracts with Bureau of Ships (NOS) or Bureau of Aeronautics (NXS) and supplied to the Bureau of Ordnance, or supplied to the Bureau of Ordnance direct in 1942 but on a contract that was less than $50,000 in value and therefore not recorded in this book. Either way, neat to see it. Always like when living history and recorded history meet!

No, i'm couple hundred miles from there. I'm closer to great lakes navy air station where this thing coulda come from if they had instructed "pby black cats" crews there. Did u see the vid? It's kinda funny how they play the "black cats" up as speedy. Would u have any T.O. info about these? I'm wondering how they were fastened on top of the wing. thank u 4 ur comments.

 

[wrenchguy]

Private Lugnutz, heres a piece of WW-II flight line equipment that i finished up last spring. i picked it at a sale 4 years back.

its a army air corp ground heater, mostly used for heating engine oil in the big radial engines. its got a supercharger on it. It could be used to heat tents too.

video of it refurbished, running and making heat.

 

[Swingpress]

Today's find. Never owned any Herbrand tools. Guess I do now.

 

[Cf mtn]

hit a sale and picked up a few things, don't know alot about the wrench pouches, the old forge didn't have original wrenches but the pouch was cool. the 2 screw things i thought where light bulb plugs? i know, why the f would you plug a light bulb socket? turned out they're hot bottle/canteen stoppers, quite old.

 

[B.S.A. (ret.)]

Those threaded items look to be hot water bottle stoppers. A hot water bottle was a rubber bladder that hot water was poured into and used to warm a bed or soothe an aching joint. They were as common as aspirin "back in the day".

 

[EOC_Jason]

Wow, that is super nice! Very jealous!

Picked at a sale list nite, in work-clothes a underlined craftsman 5186 in original prewar blue. I believe the script highlighted in silver is original to the piece too. Nice sharp cornered slide shows slightest abuse.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Would u have any T.O. info about these? I'm wondering how they were fastened on top of the wing.

No, I don't, but I'll ask around.

Private Lugnutz, heres a piece of WW-II flight line equipment that i finished up last spring.

Nice job on a complicated piece of equipment! Hard to believe they used an aluminum manifold, head, and block. Ahead of its time. When I first saw it, before I read your post, I thought it might've been a smoker (for obscurant).

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Cf mtn: Are there any markings on the canteen stoppers you found?

I found one last year. The fancy-shaped thumbscrew is marked 'TRADEMARK REGISTERED' on one side under three intertwined A's, surrounded by a wreath, and 'PAT.NOV.11.02' on the other side. The top of the stopper itself is marked 'A.SCHRADER'S SON INC. NY' and 'PAT.MAR.27-1906'. This is the same company that became famous in the 30's through the 50's for tire gages. These types of stoppers were used on military canteens during and after the Spanish-American War right up to WWI.

I'm very curious to see how yours is marked.

 

[Cf mtn]

Cf mtn: Are there any markings on the canteen stoppers you found?

I found one last year. The fancy-shaped thumbscrew is marked 'TRADEMARK REGISTERED' on one side under three intertwined A's, surrounded by a wreath, and 'PAT.NOV.11.02' on the other side. The top of the stopper itself is marked 'A.SCHRADER'S SON INC. NY' and 'PAT.MAR.27-1906'. This is the same company that became famous in the 30's through the 50's for tire gages. These types of stoppers were used on military canteens during and after the Spanish-American War right up to WWI.

I'm very curious to see how yours is marked.

the 1 with a little hole in the handle has the a schader's son name and pat sept 27-92. the other has name and dates mar 27.06 & oct 27.08, along with several diff countries.

 

[Cf mtn]

the 1 with a little hole in the handle has the a schader's son name and pat sept 27-92. the other has name and dates mar 27.06 & oct 27.08, along with several diff countries.

there is what looks like a "T" on 1 handle.

 

[3baygarage]

Picked at a sale last nite. Its a WW-II bomb hoist used by the navy to load bombs to the underwing of the pby catalina seaplane. When needed its mounted on top of the wing and hand winched the bomb into its holding sling. A movie here showing its use @7:00 into the film. You have to watch fast to see the guys on top of the wing cranking up the bombs.

STORY OF THE BLACK CATS
https://archive.org/details/gov.archives.arc.12990

Sweet find Wrenchguy. I have that same bomb hoist! Take a good look at the ratcheting handle underside for a surprise. You may have to twist your head around to see it unless you remove it.

Or check out what I mean here:

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=240615



Some nice finds there everyone!

 

[Private Lugnutz]

the 1 with a little hole in the handle has the a schader's son name and pat sept 27-92.

1892! One year older than my house!

 

[wrenchguy]

wow, i don't know how i missed ur hoist posting? we even researched somewhat along the same path providing same video. do u have info how these maybe attached on the wing. my guess is simply 4 bolts into flush rivnuts. i too bought it for the neat factor adding it to my odd/orphan collection of stuff. when friends visit they always ask; whats new? i'm glad to take over the conversation from there with some kind of knowledge of these items. thanks 4 the williams info and good luck with ur projects.

Sweet find Wrenchguy. I have that same bomb hoist! Take a good look at the ratcheting handle underside for a surprise. You may have to twist your head around to see it unless you remove it.

Or check out what I mean here:

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=240615



Some nice finds there everyone!

 

[Hounddog]

I picked this up yesterday at an estate sale for a buck...didn't know what it was and still don't. The arrow (looking) working end is made from a sharpening stone. So I'd guess it's for some sharpening application...but what?

Any thoughts?

 

[3baygarage]

If you look around at old Carborundum brand versions, they may say Knife Sharpener on the decal if it's still present. Don't know if there were differences in them.

Wrenchguy you probably missed that thread because of the weird title. I never got around to freshening up the bomb hoist like I wanted to. There's just been no place to display it. I did lug it around the flea market once and show all my old tool buddies.

It's on the list of one of these days projects, but I'm happy to have one. Had to have it for the Williams factor. I don't know how it was fastened to the plane. However done, it had to be pretty secure.

 

[Cf mtn]

1892! One year older than my house!

i know! these have been around for a while.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Small haul from two of my early bird markets this sunny but frigid morning.

Nothing too special.

The big screwdriver is an early (guessing late 1920's) Blue-Point product, marked 'BLUE POINT / - TRADEMARK - / CHICAGO'. The ferrule is solid and forged with the shank and it has a steel cap on the end.

The 32 oz ball-peen hammer is later but still relatively early, marked 'Blue-Point / KENOSHA, WIS. U.S.A. / 4 32 ozs'. They went to a modern model number type marking in 1958 (Catalog W), when this hammer would be marked "BP-4." I don't know when they started marking the weight on their heads in addition to the old school 4 oz increments up from "0" size marking (e.g., "4" = 32 ozs).

I'm going to have to strip that green paint, which is not factory. The wedges look original and the eye looks undisturbed so I don't think this was ever re-handled. I am hoping I will find a nice original grain handle underneath.

 

[poppinjohnnies]

Wrenchguy, my grandpa was a member of one of the Black Cats squadrons that served in the South Pacific during WW2. Gotta love those old PBYs.

 

[jakemac]

One early estate sale this morning. Mostly junk in the garage, but found a few goodies.
Spent $10

Rack of 1/4dr sockets :
Bonney V12 3/8”
-------- 4217 1/4F-3/8M adapter
-------- 32008-21 GE/AEG 1/4” deep
-------- V7 7/32”
-------- V12 3/8”
-------- V602 2” extension
-------- V12 3/8”
Taiwan 11/32”
Bonney VS8 1/4”
-------- VU6 3/16” U-joint
SK 40910 5/16”
Bonney VL7 7/32” deep
-------- VLH6 3/16” deep
-------- VL9 9/32” deep
-------- VL11 11/32” deep
Lic-Rite 5/16” deep

Channellock 460 pliers
Bonney 3/8dr crowsfeet :
-------- TC22 11/16”
-------- TC22 11/16”
-------- TC18 9/16”
-------- TC18 9/16”
-------- TC12 3/8”
2 - Kant-Twist 2” blk clamps
SK-Wayne 40970 1/4dr ratchet




I dug around for a while, but couldn’t find a Bonney ratchet or a set of SK-Wayne sockets.

 

[SilverDeck]

In what may have been the only lightning strike of the year for me, I stopped by an estate sale on a whim today. It was the second day of the sale and stuff had just gone 50% off at noon. Couldn’t believe finding this group of Plomb pebble combination wrenches bundled in a box under a table in the backyard. The $20 price tag meant they were $10. Best part is that from the looks of it, they hardly ever got used. They will help upgrade pieces in the full set of Plomb combos that I put together a few years back one piece at a time.

 

[wrenchguy]

Wrenchguy, my grandpa was a member of one of the Black Cats squadrons that served in the South Pacific during WW2. Gotta love those old PBYs.

I thank him for his service! i never heard of navy black cats till i got that thing and researching it brought up the squadron. i'm glad i did.

 

[chrislehr]

Not quite a "garage sale" but the price was GS-ish at $220

PM60 8" jointer, from 1953-55ish.

pm60 by Chris Lehr, on Flickr

 

[wrenchguy]

Decent reed 134 1/2R, picked at a sale couple weeks back.

 

[wrenchguy]

Nice craftsman 5162, I believe in original gray paint, slide dated 10 47. Picked at a sale couple weeks back.

 

[Outlawmws]

Lugz, on the BP hammer, I would expect, being a SO brand, the handle would have been octagonal?

I know SO is now the only place to get octagonal replacement handles that I know of... Plvmb/Proto used to use them, and probably supplied SO back in the day...

 

[Swingpress]

Was only able to hit one sale today that was pretty picked over. Spent $6 all together.
Billings ball-peen
NASA XC10 5/8 combo wrench
VLCHEK DBE
Stanley 199 utility knife
VLCHEK pliers
Utica stripwright

The wire striper is my favorite. It works great!

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Lugz, on the BP hammer, I would expect, being a SO brand, the handle would have been octagonal?

As far as I know, Outlaw, the ball-peen hammer handles were never octagonal. I've found several of them now, all of them looked original, and none of them have ben octagonal. And, I can't find a single Snap-On catalog between 1932 and 1958 that shows an octagonal handle on a ball-peen hammer. I have Blue-Point BF- series body hammers, and they are octagonal, but only from 1946 on. Before 1946, they weren't octagonal either.

 

[Mr_P]

I was one of the first to a Friday sale and got all these goodies for $3

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[Mr_P]

Got these last week for $10....
CH air impact gun
Mac Phillips head
Snap on nut driver
Security bits
Tire tube
Half a plane
A hand brace with no markings
My first Hazet wrench


And a $5 taxidermied bobcat

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[3baygarage]

Woah! $5 on the bobcat? That may be the strangest You **** I'll ever dish out!

 

[BlueBomber]

All kinds of cool stuff and bargains galore, folks--well done! No sales for me within striking distance this weekend, but I will have 2nd hand find to report when it arrives in a few days.

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[Private Lugnutz]

And a $5 taxidermied bobcat

Guy did a nice job on the crouch-attack position.

 

[Outlawmws]

you definitly got more than your money's worth Mr P!

What is that brass gizmo inside the brace handle?

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I am definitely getting old and soft. Not even December, just 29* F, and I had to break out the gloves between tables this morning at the flea market! No matter how old I get, I'll never get used to handling tools with gloves on.

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Early morning light this time of year really blanching out photos.

Both boxes are interesting. The one on top is a DUNLAP, but I'm not sure what it's for. (I'll post more pics after clean-up in toolboxes thread.) The one on the bottom is a Signal Corps radio case.

Left to right:

- Wilkens WILCO piston re-groover
- Bonney 2680 brake spring pliers (I've lost count on how many of these I have found - I move them along to WWII guys right quick)
- pre-1946 Bonney 1/2-inch drive extension
- couple 3/8-inch drive Craftsman (H) sockets and a Plomb WF-52
- another wartime Mack truck S-wrench, this one made by Williams (you may recall I found a Bonney a few weeks ago)
- unknown 4-inch adjustable crescent-type wrench
- J.P. Danielson BET'R GRIP 4-inch adjustable crescent-type wrench (smallest BET'R GRIP I've ever found - excited to see if I can find a date code)
- Moore Drop Forge 10" Ford script wrench (Model A, T, or something else...)
- no-name pressed steel cheap-o DOE wrench auto kit with wingnut
- Winchester stamped monkey wrench. (There is a reproduction and a fake stamp market out there for some Winchester tools, believe it or not, due to the novelty of them being made by/for the rifle maker, but I'm pretty sure this one is legit.)
- DUNLAP ignition pliers (post-war)
- Fairmount face spanner

EDIT: And for a little context to my flea market haunts, which I talk about enough, but show little of, see thumbnails. Pic 1 is a typical house closeout guy van. Pic 2 is a typical table dump. Out of 400+ tables at this spot, only about 30 or so were occupied this morning. That will drop to 12 or fewer through the winter.

 

[Outlawmws]

Lugz, Nice finds!

Does the Danielson BET'R GRIP 4-inch, have the broached hole for a box end?

Gloves: I got used to glove in High school for early AM paper route duty. (try folding and rubber-banding 70-120 newspapers with gloves on...) Sftry 5 years it wasn't hard@

However, the newer "mechanics gloves" are not expensive, close fitting, and easy to get used to! You may want to try some on. HF has a good selection, and its no longer "one size fits all" The ones I buy are made in Pakistan (not chicom)

 

[bluebolt]

A guy I know stopped by Monday and said he was helping clean up a house being demolished and I could come pick stuff out. Nothing much but free is free! The Craftsman 4 way lug wrench was my favorite followed by the Mustang 1/2" drive ratchet that still works.


%#*@ One picture won't load after several attempts, already put the stuff away so will have to bring the stuff out and retake it.

 

[Outlawmws]

I'm amazed the ratchet still works!