2019 Garage Sale Thread

[d42jeep]

Picked up this small Craftsman case and it's contents for $9 from a local Facebook auction group.

Lots of 1/4" drive goodies inside!

There's a Craftsman circle H ratchet, Williams NM-51 Superratchet, a tiny Indestro 17/64" and 5/16" wrench, and a Blue Point S-810 1/4" and 5/16" wrench (1949 date code).

After a bit of cleaning, both ratchets move really well. The Blue Point wrench was only identifiable by the part number on the back. For some reason, the side with the logo has been ground down.

For the sockets, there were 7 assorted Craftsman =v= 6 point and also some 8 point, 3 of the older knurled style Craftsman, one -vv- 6mm six point, one MAC 3/8 six point, a Snap-on 3/8" 12 point (1939 date code), a mystery socket that's just marked 7/16 and USA, an SK 11/32 deep socket 6 point, an unmarked 3/8 extension, and a single Snap-on #3 Phillips ACR bit.

Not a bad little lot for $9.

That’s a great group of tools. I’m currently working on a 1/4” Williams set that your new ratchet would have come in. I thought you might like to see it. Here are a few pictures. The last shot is of a New Britain sourced Craftsman BE 1/4” drive set similar to the set your New Britain sourced circle H ratchet would have come in.
-Don

 

[cbacres]

Stopped at a regular sale storage guy has from time to time. Guy is always good to me.
Always a good misc assortment of stuff.
Large V block with clamp, small clamp for v block, life time supply of fuses, extra long power cord for Milwaukee drill/sawsall, Diamond and Williams snap ring pliers, Proto brake adjustment tool, Dewitt vise grips, long 1/2” CM breaker bar, small puller.

Masking paper from same sale.

The wood box that I had all this in turned out to be a bottomless Starrett box.





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[BlueBomber]

No big finds yet this year. I did pick up this Tru Temp Jumbo Dial clock and some vintage Sears screws for $2.25 at an estate sale Thursday.

I hope your clock works. I found a cool old clock at an estate sale sitting on a shelf. After going through the trouble of hanging it 12-ft up my garage wall, I discovered why it was on a shelf-- it doesn't keep time worth a darn!

One of the treasures I found on 1/5 was this Holo Krome #22 hex key set. It only had three Holo Krome original keys left in it so I separated out all of my HK marked wrenches and completed the set. The company formed in 1929 is still in business, now owned by Fastenal.
-Don

I always like to see old tools from New England. It always reminds me of the Industrial Revolution, which is the reason most old American tools are from New England

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[cbacres]

Went back to the estate sale that I went to Thursday night.
Still a fair amount of stuff and no last day discounts.
Found large c-clamps that I completely missed the first time. A Wilton 12”, Williams 10” and a Williams with a butterfly handle, which I’ve never seen in a Williams before.


I wanted another 12” so I’d have a pair, just to find out I already had a pair! So with three 12”, guess I need to look for a fourth to balance out. I paid $30 for all three clamps, a little higher than what I usually pay, but don’t come across the bigger clamps that often.

Rest of bunch is some deburring wheels, brass drift, a releasing magnet, Sargent pliers, Utica pliers that I need to look up to see what there for, long punch, electrical fittings, small brass hammer on aluminum handle.






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[r_olson_06]

Was pretty slow day at the flea, but I did find an SK socket with funny knurling that caught my eye, and a Barcalo built Powr Kraft scoop wrench I don't really need

Neat SK socket. I have seen a few before but they are rarer than the cross hatch. They remind me of the double dot Blackhawk socket. Maybe Don can shed some light on it.

Looking for the following Plomb Pebbles Wrenches 3061, 3070,

 

[wrenchguy]

Wrenchguy

What’s the cool little GE 4-way in the first pic?

nutdriver along with herbrand 397 clutch head screwdriver, lastly old school medical thermometer.

 

[406Rich]

It was a bust for me this weekend, went to one barn sale thought I could pick a few things up. Most everything there was asian tools, rusted badly, one craftsman crown top drill press that someone tore apart, couldn't`nt find the pieces, so just the base, mast, and body were there, she still wanted $70....

 

[txlonghorn1989]

One of the tools I picked up on Friday was this rusty and worn Barcalo auto wrench. I gave it the evaporust treatment and a little restoration and it’s now ready to add to the Barcalo shrine.
-Don

Nice cleanup Don. I've got a question about using/re-using Evaporust. How long will you continue to save it and re-use it? Stuff isn't cheap like windshield wiper fluid.

Thanks!

 

[drivesitfar]

TEX: I know i'm not DON, but I answer to almost any name.

i've been going to buy and use EVAPORUST for a while now cause it sounds like it really works. that said i've read a lot of members use old coffee filters to filter it and use it for a while (think years) maybe in a solvent tank where they just pour in a little fresh stuff every now and then or completely replace if results aren't what they are looking for.

 

[madison069]

Just a little haul on Saturday. I don't know why but I can't seem to leave tappet wrenches behind even though I got 10 or more of them around my garage. It's like a sickness! Then I got some smaller proto wrenches and the the sk pliers and one wrench to add to the collection. For $4 it wasn't a steal but I did break the drought of no estate sale purchase for months!

 

[d42jeep]

Neat SK socket. I have seen a few before but they are rarer than the cross hatch. They remind me of the double dot Blackhawk socket. Maybe Don can shed some light on it.

Looking for the following Plomb Pebbles Wrenches 3061, 3070,

I’ve got a bunch of knurled S-K sockets but I’ve never seen that knurling before!
Cool find!

Nice cleanup Don. I've got a question about using/re-using Evaporust. How long will you continue to save it and re-use it? Stuff isn't cheap like windshield wiper fluid.

Thanks!

I’m still working on my first gallon, but after 6 months it seems a little less effective than when it was new. I’ll probably invest in another gallon pretty soon.
-Don

 

[txlonghorn1989]

Finally in the 2019 game, been slim pickings around here lately. Went to 2 sales today, little further out than I like, but it was worth it. Sale started at 8AM, I didn't see it till 9:30, got there about 10:15. Was told it was insane at 8:00, so you can imagine my surprise to find the 2 vises and the Snap On tool box. Box was the first thing I saw, opened it up, no tray, walked about 10 FT. and found the tray. Then I found the Columbian 5-1/2" vise, lot of the smalls, and then stumbled across the Craftsman vise on my second or third pass thru. It was a warehouse of sorts for a clean out co., tons of stuff just piled up everywhere, had to do lots of digging but it was worth it, prices were very fair. Found the empty Craftsman crown 3/4 drive case and the brand new needle scaler on my fifth or sixth pass thru, after I had moved the vises and tool box out to my truck.

454: I keep hoping to find an old Craftsman box like that for a 3/4" Craftsman -V- socket set I got in 2017. Can you post pics of the inside? Nice haul!

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

I did pretty good this weekend. The grinder is all there. It does have the water tray its not in the shot. Its going to clean up pretty nice. If anyone knows where to get bearings for this model off hand please let me know. Ill check the block thread. The Rock Island is a little crusty and that yellow paint is the toughest I've dealt with so far. My ususal oven cleaner trick wouldnt touch it. Jaws are in great shape but the screws are rusted in for now. I paid $20 for both.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

regarding Evaporust and its potency and duration:
Don is the second person I've seen say that they change theirs out twice a year. I'm not getting anything close to that kind of performance. I generally have to buy a new batch every 2 months - and that's with filtering it! (I pour it into a siphon with a built-in strainer screen into a different bucket after every use, discarding the residue.)

That doesn't mean I'm collecting more tools than Don, but I do think it has to mean I am putting more tools, rustier tools, or both in my vat than he is.

Which makes sense. It's a chemical reaction. There are only so many Evaporust molecules available to work on so many iron oxide molecules in a batch. My hunch is if you are introducing more rust (more wrenches, rustier wrenches, or both) to the bucket with a greater frequency than someone else, the same amount of Evaporust is going to be used up sooner.

It would be interesting to test that, though. If everyone using Evaporust keeps a simple tally of (a) the number of tools they are de-rusting, (b) the type of tool - so we have an idea of its size, and (c) the degree of its rustiness (scale of 1 to 10 where 1 is light surface rust in some places, 10 is totally encrusted, and 5 is something in between), we'd have a better idea of potency and duration.

EDIT: I'm not actually suggesting and organizing such a test. I'm just musing on that being the factor.

 

[BlueBomber]

That's what's known as a "bullet" SK spocket. I dont think they are all that rare.

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[bluebolt]

-Proto chest! I spotted it in the photos and thought maybe it was a Plomb. Contents came with. Looks like odds and ends, not much for keepers or sellable items.

- K-D sign! Maybe off a display rack. Had to negotiate for that as well.

Nice find on the Flying Lady Proto chest! I have a similar Proto 9990 that stays in the computer room. It came out of an upholstery shop which is probably why it is still in nice shape.

 

[Subie FI]

regarding Evaporust and its potency and duration:

Which makes sense. It's a chemical reaction. There are only so many Evaporust molecules available to work on so many iron oxide molecules in a batch. My hunch is if you are introducing more rust (more wrenches, rustier wrenches, or both) to the bucket with a greater frequency than someone else, the same amount of Evaporust is going to be used up sooner.

My understanding is that this correct. Evaporust contains a chelating agent. When all of the binding sites are full/used, it won't work any more. Also means that if there are other iron containing contaminants on the tool, like dirt, any iron oxide in the dirt will bind up some of the Evaporust as well.

So the worse the tools are, the "shorter" it will last.

 

[Boofer]

I did pretty good this weekend. The grinder is all there. It does have the water tray its not in the shot. Its going to clean up pretty nice. If anyone knows where to get bearings for this model off hand please let me know. Ill check the block thread. The Rock Island is a little crusty and that yellow paint is the toughest I've dealt with so far. My ususal oven cleaner trick wouldnt touch it. Jaws are in great shape but the screws are rusted in for now. I paid $20 for both.

You ****.

I'd try Aircraft Stripper (the gel version) on that vise. I've watched paint slide off vertical surfaces after just a couple minutes. I love that stuff.

 

[duddly]

duddly,

commercial fishing net floats are made of plastic and the same shape as your drafting counterweight. They weigh next to nothing and have a hole through the center that is used for the top rope of the net.

Thanks - I looked and saw what you mean. The prices are also pretty reasonable. I will still try to go caveman on the concrete, but that is a great backup plan.

 

[shanny19]

Mr. Wonderful, that is an interesting vise to me.

Because....that’s a Rock Island factory color. 20 years before glo chartreuse became a 70s fire engine fad, they were painting vises like that. Now I’m not saying its the factory paint JOB, just that it is a legit color. And its interesting because if it IS the factory paint job, they painted so many of the surfaces that today’s restorers don’t paint. I’d love to hear if you found any other color under the yellow.....

 

[Smokeshow69]

Nice find on the Flying Lady Proto chest! I have a similar Proto 9990 that stays in the computer room. It came out of an upholstery shop which is probably why it is still in nice shape.

X2 on the nice find ! One can never have to many proto tool boxes


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[Mr. Wonderful]

Mr. Wonderful, that is an interesting vise to me.

Because....that’s a Rock Island factory color. 20 years before glo chartreuse became a 70s fire engine fad, they were painting vises like that. Now I’m not saying its the factory paint JOB, just that it is a legit color. And its interesting because if it IS the factory paint job, they painted so many of the surfaces that today’s restorers don’t paint. I’d love to hear if you found any other color under the yellow.....

Shanny, I did manage to get down to two different off white shades under that yellow. I dont know if they originally painted the "meatball" on the handle but that had some of it under the yellow too.

 

[Smokeshow69]

My understanding is that this correct. Evaporust contains a chelating agent. When all of the binding sites are full/used, it won't work any more. Also means that if there are other iron containing contaminants on the tool, like dirt, any iron oxide in the dirt will bind up some of the Evaporust as well.



So the worse the tools are, the "shorter" it will last.

Agreed on the shorter life, that is why I just use my evaporust as my final treatment. I grind down the rust fully and then soak them just to totally immobilize the rust !


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[emeraldcoupe]

We're down in Buzzards Bay, MA today

I grew up in the town next door, Wareham

 

[shanny19]

Shanny, I did manage to get down to two different off white shades under that yellow. I dont know if they originally painted the "meatball" on the handle but that had some of it under the yellow too.

Interesting, thanks. Any yellow on the underside of the swivel base??.

 

[shanny19]

On the evaporust topic, some of you might not have discovered that it works three times faster at room temperature compared to an unheated garage. At least in my unheated garage, which is between 46 and 47 degrees. Latitude

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

Interesting, thanks. Any yellow on the underside of the swivel base??.

The bottom has more of that off white color on it than anywhere else. I suspect that to be the original color. It looks like the layers from the bottom up are off white, white, then yellow.

 

[454ragtop]

454: I keep hoping to find an old Craftsman box like that for a 3/4" Craftsman -V- socket set I got in 2017. Can you post pics of the inside? Nice haul!

Here you go. It's surprisingly heavy, little over 8 lbs. empty, metal handle and nice latches.

 

[Ole Slewfoot]

regarding Evaporust and its potency and duration:

The manufacturer claim is that one gallon will remove x grams of rust.
They say you can check it with a hydrometer, and have some spec for when it's 'dead'.

After about a year, mine does something, but takes days to do what might have been hours new. It also gets lost to evaporation, so use a lid, although I've rehydrated mine with distilled water a few times.

I also had trouble with coverage, so I bought up all the cheap marbles, they take up volume without affecting any reaction.

I clean before evaporusting, and generally try to electrolize the bare steel tools instead.
If you run the amps a little high, I find the E-tank removes vise paint pretty well. my art deco Craftsman vise had a big wax blob I forgot to remove, and I found it floating at the top of the tank, a perfect cast.

Neat SK socket. I have seen a few before but they are rarer than the cross hatch. They remind me of the double dot Blackhawk socket.

I think I have another somewhere, and maybe a 1/4 drive I initially thought was just a screwup on the machine. Certainly not common, and this one is clearly deliberate.

 

[Tas biker]

Read an ad on the tools section of CL stating one day sale of his “large tool collection” with 2 large tool chests. No pics but I was going to take my chances.

This was the large chest and boy was it heavy. Seems like an ok Husky chest that’s 40 1/2 inches wide. Not sure if you’d consider that 41” or not. It’s in pretty good shape. Paid $60 for that and it’s contents.

Not really any great finds except 1 Proto open ended wrench.

 

[Tas biker]

And a few more pics.

What do you guys do with all of your unwanted tools? I’ve got triplicates of many wrenches/sockets/chinese made that I don’t want.

 

[txlonghorn1989]

Here you go. It's surprisingly heavy, little over 8 lbs. empty, metal handle and nice latches.

Do you think that was for a socket set?! Wow!

 

[shanny19]

And a few more pics.

What do you guys do with all of your unwanted tools? I’ve got triplicates of many wrenches/sockets/chinese made that I don’t want.

I find a teenager with a bike/motorcycle/atv/snowmobile/whatever.

 

[Ole Slewfoot]

I have got flea market vendors to buy my ChiCom chaff for about a dollar a pound, which saves me taking it home.

Or make a pile on CL, $5, $10 if you don't take it all.

 

[txlonghorn1989]

Good day today! Hit a sale for a guy moving by the end of the week. He has an auto shop out of his home which is more rural. Anyway, made a few good purchases at good for me prices. $50 for the lot. Damn shame I totaled the '64 Chevy pickup before I ever got to drive it! That was my dream truck, in my dream colors and completely stock!!!

Craftsman Heritage toolbox with a few Craftsman sockets and a speeder, steel milk crate from Austin area, '64 Chevy pickup model that I might be able to repair after dropping it, Gulf barrel that I'll use for trash and a Craftsman 5160 vise. Super excited to find the vise. I'll post it in the vise thread as I definitely need some advice on refurbishing the finish.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Thanks, Subie, and Ole Slew.

My point was we all tend to cite a duration by time, but it's misleading. Saying it lasts one year, six months, 2 months etc makes it look like some batches are more potent than others, which is illogical. The potency duration is a function of the amount of iron oxide being introduced to the same amount of the substance by collector A vs. the amount of iron oxide being introduced to the same amount of the substance by collector B, and so forth. When it gets murky, there are more dead molecules than active molecules. Straining it seems to help (separating the "dead" molecules from the active ones...), but not much.

On average, I figure I am de-rusting about 4 tools per day, 4 days per week (typically Wednesday through Sunday). The rate is a little lower now, but much higher in the summer and fall. That's 16 tools per week, 64 tools per month, and 128 tools per two months or one gallon, because that's been my duration. The point is, X number of rusty tools is a more accurate way of stating Evaporust's potency than time. I may start to keep a count when I buy a new gallon just for shits and grins and science sake.

As for volume, I control that by using three different sized containers: small, medium, and large, depending on the size and amount of the tools I am de-rusting. When the tools are de-rusted, I pour the liquid back into the original container through a strainer-siphon, and re-seal it with the original lid.

 

[Tas biker]

I have got flea market vendors to buy my ChiCom chaff for about a dollar a pound, which saves me taking it home.

Or make a pile on CL, $5, $10 if you don't take it all.

I find a teenager with a bike/motorcycle/atv/snowmobile/whatever.

Thanks for the advice.

 

[d42jeep]

That's what's known as a "bullet" SK spocket. I dont think they are all that rare.

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The knurling is what’s unusual about Slew’ S-K socket. I have plenty of the bullet shaped S-K sockets but none wth knurling like that.
-Don

 

[454ragtop]

Do you think that was for a socket set?! Wow!

Yes, definitely seems to be for a socket set. I couldn't get a pic of it, but there are circular wear marks behind that divider, looks like 9 sockets? You can see where a prior owner made size notations for what sockets fit what on the inside of the lid. I can try to get some better pics outside, less shadows. Can't do that till tomorrow though.

 

[jakemac]

Do you think that was for a socket set?! Wow!

It’s the case for a Cman 3/4dr socket set. And weighs a ton when full.