2021 Garage Sale Thread
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$35 at Leesport Flea Market this morning.
I should have looked at the reddish cowboys more closely - most look like they lived in Sid’s Room.
Otherwise pleased with…
Stanley Rule & Level plumb/level - last patent 2Jul1872.
2 Henry Disston & Sons two-man crosscut saws -
A 1930s No494 still with a protective coating of BLO (or whatever they shipped them in) preserving a nice etch: “Beaver.” This 5ft blade sold for $7.35 in 1932.
The other turns out (after scraping with a putty knife) to be a 1920s “Plain” No2 (tooth-spacing, not model number).
ca1956 Whitney No5 metal punch set missing female 9/32 die - if it is up to the task, I will pair up a few orphaned handsaw blades with handles.
Vlchek flying-V P3 screwdriver.
Bridgeport universal pliers, DOE
S-wrench.
Bonney A & C S-wrenches, DOEs.
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RTM
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Your Punch is much more capable with a bench mount. I've got mine attached to a 2x4 that I toss in my vise, and it works much easier. I may have a spare die, can look later, but mine is a #5Jr. I bought a new set of dies I had so many pieces missing.
d42jeep
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The square parts are Starrett but the attached rules aren’t. The little caliper is General. Here are some pictures after cleaning.
BlakeTheCarGuy
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Don’t guess you would want to get rid of that long Craftsman screwdriver would you? I don’t have one like that in the collection yet.
d42jeep
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Sure, it’ll need a little more dressing up on the tip. PM me your address.
-Don
Private Lugnutz
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Eclectic mix (Lugz 2021_51) from today's flea trip.
I'm going to turn that old photographic plate (the other side is glass) into a picture frame.
I have a BSPCo Quick-Way set A, but it was on a $1 table.
The K-D muffler cutter is later (50's) than I like to collect, but too cool to pass up.
The forged antique hand vise is unmarked, but an instant buy.
The opisometer is not as old as the one I found a few months ago, which was wartime (see my Lugzsonian thread for more), and judging by the threaded nib there, appears to be missing a handle.
I'm not sure about the piece all the way on the left, but I'm guessing it's an antique dowell cutter or tenon shaver.
I'm going to turn that old photographic plate (the other side is glass) into a picture frame.
I have a BSPCo Quick-Way set A, but it was on a $1 table.
The K-D muffler cutter is later (50's) than I like to collect, but too cool to pass up.
The forged antique hand vise is unmarked, but an instant buy.
The opisometer is not as old as the one I found a few months ago, which was wartime (see my Lugzsonian thread for more), and judging by the threaded nib there, appears to be missing a handle.
I'm not sure about the piece all the way on the left, but I'm guessing it's an antique dowell cutter or tenon shaver.
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RTM
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Spoke pointer is the common name. Can be used to reduce the tip so it will fit in a hollow auger, or just to put a point on something.
I'm not sure about the piece all the way on the left, but I'm guessing it's an antique dowell cutter or tenon shaver.
The James Swan Company : Illustrated Catalog and Price List of Premium Mechanics' Tools : 1911 : James Swan Co. : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
138 p., 21.0 cm, illus., trade catalog
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Hollow auger is a couple of pages back.
Private Lugnutz
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Thanks. I knew one of you saw dust makers would help me out. Are they common? Have you seen one in person before? This one is late 1800s I'm guessing. Havent tracked down mfgr yet. I'll post photos later. Probably hand planes thread. Unless I'm wrong, we don't really have a catch-all thread for woodworking tools.
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Hit an estate sale this morning with LOTS of tools. Although I was 14th in line I was the first one in the garage actually interested in tools. Most were there for the guitars, electronics, military uniforms and LPs. The first tool in my milk crate was the beehive screwdriver for $1. Turns out it is a Disston, Phila. My first beehive screwdriver! The two empty S-K boxes were $4 each. Neither me or the person working the garage spotted someone had written $10 on the top of each box. The S-K 1/4" set was $8. Turns out the ratchet is a Power-Kraft. I'll pick up a proper S-K ratchet replacement for it. The Petersen vise grips (Made in Dewitt, NEBR) were $3 each. The Vaughn ball peen hammer was $3. My first Stanley No. 750 chisel was $3. It's 1" wide. I'd never seen the nut driver. One side has SAE, the other metric. 12-pt. The colors make me think Klein but no maker details on it. It was $3. Last, the Stanley (Sweetheart) No. "66 3/4" ruler was $4. This was made from 1902-1942. Very happy with the tools. I'll post the S-K stuff in the S-K thread. I'd like to fill the empty boxes up with their proper socket sets.
Edit: I can't find the S-K tool thread. Can anyone provide a link?
Edit: I can't find the S-K tool thread. Can anyone provide a link?
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Private Lugnutz
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Sometimes I think y'all're just trying to push my buttons on purpose! It's in the Thread Index in the Stickie!!!
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Not terribly common. I found 2 here locally in that size, in many years of looking. I bought a tiny one for a specific project.
Start a thread for Wooden spoke making tools, we can put hollow augers, spoke pointers, and spokeshaves there. With better pix I can probably decipher a mfg for you.
MidnightZ21
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I picked up these 2 bins of sockets today. Hoping to fill out some of my half inch drive sizes. Spotted some Williams and Craftsman USA in there. Paid $30 for both bins. Definitely not a you ****, but I don't think I did too bad
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Smokeshow69
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What gauge is that shade roller ? Did you cut a piece off and measure?You meant to direct this at Outlaw. I have no opinion in 'The Great Roll Shade Debate' of 2021, I'm only an innocent bystander, reading along with glee, and maybe a little hope (there are encouraging signs!) that it finally replaces the sarcastic echoes of 'The Great Jerry Can Debate' of 2018.
Private Lugnutz
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Hee hee. Troublemaker.
Spoke pointers aren't really rare, but they aren't particularly common either. I also have two I've picked up over the years, and perhaps passed on a few really trashed, overpriced or badly "fixed" ones too.
Private Lugnutz
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I hit three sales today, spending around $40.
First stop yielded the following:
Goodell Pratt #49 drill, incomplete Craftsman socket set, Starrett pocket rule, Lufkin fishtail, North Bros. #13, a USA push button switch cover, and not pictured is a round corner, leather handled Kennedy 520. That had perfect felt and it still had the drawer dividers.
The second stop was a family-run estate. Cavalier cigarette tin, Sheridan pellet tin, antique glasses case, misc. sockets (Bon-E-Con, Proto, P&C), small drive screws, Hoppes #9, and a bakelite pencil box. Of course, it wouldn't be me without some paper coming back with me:
Toni is by the author of the famous Heidi, the science book is from 1919, and who can pass up Live Steam magazines with all the machining info in them, along with an article on High School Live Steamers! Those are from 1979.
The final stop was an estate sale, run by a company(?) that had no idea what they were doing. I hate companies that look things up on their phones for pricing, I hate companies that are inconsistent with the pricing, and I hate companies that have a "tool guy" who has no idea what he is doing. Anyway:
A holster that was made by a WWII holster maker (research is being done on it), a magazine for a Browning, and some military jewelers screwdrivers. The drivers are interesting as they are not the standard chrome or nickel, but black oxide:
There was a ton of new reloading stuff, and by listening to the background noise they were pricing it pretty high and it wasn't moving. When I went up to pay, the guy initially asked for $25 for just the magazine. I came back with a much lesser group price and he accepted it. Clearly, this guy was over his head and it was costing them.
First stop yielded the following:
Goodell Pratt #49 drill, incomplete Craftsman socket set, Starrett pocket rule, Lufkin fishtail, North Bros. #13, a USA push button switch cover, and not pictured is a round corner, leather handled Kennedy 520. That had perfect felt and it still had the drawer dividers.
The second stop was a family-run estate. Cavalier cigarette tin, Sheridan pellet tin, antique glasses case, misc. sockets (Bon-E-Con, Proto, P&C), small drive screws, Hoppes #9, and a bakelite pencil box. Of course, it wouldn't be me without some paper coming back with me:
Toni is by the author of the famous Heidi, the science book is from 1919, and who can pass up Live Steam magazines with all the machining info in them, along with an article on High School Live Steamers! Those are from 1979.
The final stop was an estate sale, run by a company(?) that had no idea what they were doing. I hate companies that look things up on their phones for pricing, I hate companies that are inconsistent with the pricing, and I hate companies that have a "tool guy" who has no idea what he is doing. Anyway:
A holster that was made by a WWII holster maker (research is being done on it), a magazine for a Browning, and some military jewelers screwdrivers. The drivers are interesting as they are not the standard chrome or nickel, but black oxide:
There was a ton of new reloading stuff, and by listening to the background noise they were pricing it pretty high and it wasn't moving. When I went up to pay, the guy initially asked for $25 for just the magazine. I came back with a much lesser group price and he accepted it. Clearly, this guy was over his head and it was costing them.
Provincial
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On the shade rollers, Fir, Pine, and Beech were popular (not Poplar!) and all were of similar "gauge."
d42jeep
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Here are a few more cleaned up tools from my Tuesday haul.
-Don
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That’s very pretty Lugz - reminds me of the Liberty Bell, LOL.
That genre of device is still made and sold today for making round tenons for rustic log furniture, for instance, or wherever the bulkiness of the stock and quick uniformity of the result makes a lathe less practical.
I think the reduction of wood-spoked auto and wagon wheels has made it less familiar than it must once have been.
Here’s a link to a search on Grizzly.com.
And a more familiar application of the underlying technology.
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Private Lugnutz
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Yep, the function was obvious. Hence why I called it, descriptively, a "tenon shaver" in my first report post. Good to know the proper trade name, though.
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I've got the same box of midget screwdrivers. Mine has a government stock number stamped on the front.military jewelers screwdrivers. The drivers are interesting as they are not the standard chrome or nickel, but black oxide:
Private Lugnutz
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Yup, I was getting the same and did not try any other sources.
That's the second set I have seen here over the years, but I forget who found the first and when. (EDIT: Scratch that. It was UNAIU! Haha) That's the same Welsh as the famous safety glasses (see Pic 1), if you didn't know it. The fed spec and the black oxide are strong WWII indictors, and Welsh did have wartime contracts (see Pic 4), for glasses and "tools" (likely the jewelers' screwdrivers), but they could be immediate postwar into KW, too. The 1944 Navy ASO Class 41 supplement for jewelers' tools shows a 3- and 5-pc set (see Pic 3).
UNAIU/Beemer: What is the stock number? I can't read either one.
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On mine, it's 41-S-1325
We've done some research on the G503 already HERE.
Interesting that the '44 Navy ASO Class 41 supplement specs the 5 piece set as "chrome plated".
Private Lugnutz
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Hahaha. It ***** getting old. Thanks for the reminder.
Beemer - if you follow UNAIU's link, I posted alot more info over there, including the fed spec excerpts. (My username is Wingnutt on G503.)
Yes, I suspect they re-used old stock typeset. Seems early for relaxing the restriction.
steaks&anvils
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No matter which wood it was, when you yank one off the window and it hits your sister in the head, the decibel level and amount of drama is well beyond description.
Here is the Kennedy that I picked up yesterday, as some were wondering about it:
And UNAIU, mine has the number penciled in on the front.
Wow, that's in nice shape!
Mike
RTM
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Attacking Lugz' spoke pointer from a different angle, I plugged Bates into DATAMP, and they came up as the maker for an oddball spokeshave I own, patented in 1863. It's the only Bates entry in DATAMP.
Interestingly*, this spoke pointer in the Stearns catalog has the similar shape to your Bates, a long taper for the brace end, with no break, and the ear that holds the blade. *They were the other mfg on my spokeshave linked above.
I then dug into the DAT*, and here is what they have for Bates in Philly "They made a spoke pointer", a bit underwhelming. Their mark was BATES MANUF'G CO. PHILAD'A
Guess anything we find here can also be used to update a few of these other sources. There are 11 Bates listed in DAT, but only 1 in Philly
* Directory of American Toolmakers, typically pre 1900.
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US Patent: 40,437 - Spoke Shave
US patent 40,437 Spoke Shave was issued to Melzer Tuell of Penn Yan, NY. It was granted on 10/27/1863.
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Interestingly*, this spoke pointer in the Stearns catalog has the similar shape to your Bates, a long taper for the brace end, with no break, and the ear that holds the blade. *They were the other mfg on my spokeshave linked above.
E. C. Stearns & Co. Catalogue of Hardware : 1924 : E.C. Stearns & Co. : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
92 p., illus., 22.6 cm, trade catalog
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I then dug into the DAT*, and here is what they have for Bates in Philly "They made a spoke pointer", a bit underwhelming. Their mark was BATES MANUF'G CO. PHILAD'A
Guess anything we find here can also be used to update a few of these other sources. There are 11 Bates listed in DAT, but only 1 in Philly
* Directory of American Toolmakers, typically pre 1900.
Edit: added bold above
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Current googling (including books and new stuff) seems to imply all they ever made, which implies all ever found. One catalog listed it as a Spoke Trimmer too. Added a bit above after my initial post in bold. Still looking for other catalog examples
RTM
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Here is an "Ives' patent spoke pointer" that looks familiar in the body shape also. W.A. Ives was quite prolific, but I don't see a spoke pointer in DATAMP, so might be some minor feature.
Hall, Kimbark & Co. : Iron, Steel, Nails, Heavy Hardware, Wagon & Carriage Wood Material : Illustrated Catalogue : Hall, Kimbark & Co. : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
362 p., illus., 24.6 cm, trade catalog
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