2021 Garage Sale Thread

[LesserSon]

Good tip, Lugz.
Per the fuzzy giant thumbnails - you don’t have to create them at all - there’s an option to embed full size photos right in the body of the post, which is what I’ll be doing. It encourages a more critical editorial decision: “If I don’t want to include this image in the main body of the post, is it actually worth adding?” (You can always attach it at the end, anyway.)

 

[LesserSon]

Wouldn’t caulking irons be equally useful for log cabins and iron sewer lines?

 

[pfaustus]

The caulking irons used by plumbers to pound hemp into iron sewer pipe before sealing with lead are differently shaped. I have old plomb ones I picked up in the hope I never have to use them and because I liked the play on words. https://www.mephistotools.com/caulking-irons.htm

 

[gearhead1960]

Bought this set of books at last weekends estate sale I went to. Had posted it but gave little detail. Thought there might be some interest on the subject matter, as I defined it as light bedside reading...note the publishing date....

 

[bmwrd0]

" those calking, or corking irons are for the seams of wooden boats. " Yep. But since my teenage dreams of building wooden boats are pretty much reduced to watching youtube videos at this point, they are probably going to be sold at some point.

Right there with you. As the wife talked me into buying a project house (and I will admit, it wasn't a very hard task), I too am reduced to reading Chapelle's books and watching YouTube videos of it.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Per the fuzzy giant thumbnails - you don’t have to create them at all - there’s an option to embed full size photos right in the body of the post, which is what I’ll be doing. It encourages a more critical editorial decision: “If I don’t want to include this image in the main body of the post, is it actually worth adding?” (You can always attach it at the end, anyway.)

Those two options are not new, LS. The mechanics are different (no more PITA URL pasting for embeds), but we've always had those two options.

In my pert near 10 years here I have gone back and forth on the pros and cons of embeds and thumbnails. Sometimes I have used them both in the same new thread or set of posts. My decisions have sometimes depended on the type of thread/post, and sometimes just whim.

If you think or look back on some of my threads, you will find many where I have used embeds. Here is one, plucked from my threads list at random, just for example. I like it because you can intersperse them rather professionally like figures in a long article without interrupting the flow of the narrative. Especially useful if I am posting photos of tools and scans from catalogs and historical references.

But lately I have gone to thumbnails, even for long write-ups, merely referencing the thumbnail number (e.g, "See Pic 3") in the post. For one thing, because it's much easier. Less steps. You post your text. You attach. Done. For another, because embedded photos take up a lot of space. I have to admit, and no offense to anyone personally, obviously, overly large photos embedded in posts have always bothered me. A post could take up an entire page even in the old GUI and require A LOT of scrolling to get to the next post. That is even worse in the extremely zoomed-in viewfinder of the new GUI when you can basically only see one post a time. And due to the habit some people have of quoting a post with embeds, and even though they're only replying to one little aspect, leaving all the original photos embedded, it can really be disorienting seeing the same photos over and over again, nd you're scrolling for minutes.

 

[LesserSon]

All valid points, Lugz.
Perhaps I never mastered the previous version’s intended embedding method, but the new version is simpler than what I used to do - attach a thumbnail, then follow its link, copy the address, and then embed it - way more trouble than just choosing and saving, especially with multiple photos.
Also, the “you” in my previous post was meant for anyone dissatisfied with fuzzy, weirdly-large thumbnails, not specifically Lugz.

FINALLY, as Outlaw has said “YMMV.” The procedures that I follow on my iPhone are not going to be identical to what someone on an IBM-compatible desktop does with a two-button wheel mouse. Nor are the results going to display identically.
I’m quite content with the text size displayed on my 5” screen, but if I was on a 32” monitor and could see only the same 1-post-at-a-time, I’d be furious.

What follows “finally?” LOL…
re-re-reading Lugz’s post, I still agree with what he’s said, although it doesn’t alter my preference to embed photos on the new platform. The main drawback I’ve experienced, is that it restricts the flow of language to a linear narrative (as Lugz said). You either indicate and describe the image prior to embedding it, or afterward. Recursive, layered comparisons are awkward with embedded images, whereas they are more natural with separate, viewer-optional thumbnails (thanks to html). Best compromise to me for complex discussion is clustering them at the bottom of the post, like what gearhead just did. A personal preference on my device, because on my screen, the blurry, pixelated thumbnails appear as large as the crisp, embedded images, taking up the same real estate without supplying the useful detail.

 

[Old Radar]

If you think or look back on some of my threads, you will find many where I have used embeds. Here is one, plucked from my threads list at random, just for example. I like it because you can intersperse them rather professionally like figures in a long article without interrupting the flow of the narrative. Especially useful if I am posting photos of tools and scans from catalogs and historical references.

But lately I have gone to thumbnails, even for long write-ups, merely referencing the thumbnail number (e.g, "See Pic 3") in the post. For one thing, because it's much easier. Less steps. You post your text. You attach. Done. For another, because embedded photos take up a lot of space. I have to admit, and no offense to anyone personally, obviously, overly large photos embedded in posts have always bothered me. A post could take up an entire page even in the old GUI and require A LOT of scrolling to get to the next post. That is even worse in the extremely zoomed-in viewfinder of the new GUI when you can basically only see one post a time. And due to the habit some people have of quoting a post with embeds, and even though they're only replying to one little aspect, leaving all the original photos embedded, it can really be disorienting seeing the same photos over and over again, and you're scrolling for minutes.

I'm with you on this, Lugz. I'm a little more verbose than most (present company excepted...) so I like to concentrate attention on a specific picture before moving on to the next.

Don't worry, Gearhead, you're not alone.

 

[bmwrd0]

It is interesting how we all use different methods to achieve a similar endpoint. I embed, as the photo software I used (Fliker) makes it very easy to take a photo on my phone and edit and post from my laptop. I never like the thumbnails for myself as I am quite lazy and hate the extra steps. But I rather doubt that others see that as extra work in any realistic way.

 

[LesserSon]

I'm a little more verbose than most (present company excepted...)

THAT’s funny!

 

[LesserSon]

I am quite lazy and hate the extra steps.

Thank God for “lazy” people - they find efficient solutions.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

THAT’s funny!

Yeah, but which blabbermouth was he parenthetically referring to, you or me?! [Imagine the old hitti emoji here!]

 

[Private Lugnutz]

It is interesting how we all use different methods to achieve a similar endpoint. I embed, as the photo software I used (Fliker) makes it very easy to take a photo on my phone and edit and post from my laptop. I never like the thumbnails for myself as I am quite lazy and hate the extra steps. But I rather doubt that others see that as extra work in any realistic way.

I'm always genuinely interested in learning new ways, especially if it's easier, and I'm always worried I am doing something the hard or dumb way. But in this case I am just confused, Beemer.

I take photos, plug my phone into my laptop, and type out my post in the reply window. If I want to embed a photo, I hit the [Insert image] icon button in the toolbar above the reply frame. If I want to attach a thumbnail I hit the [Attach files] button below the reply frame. Both options open my browser. I use my browser to find the photo I want to embed or attach and hit the [OPEN] button.

Once you're in GJ it's the same number of steps. Regardless of what you're doing before you open GJ, if you're using your laptop, there are two options, each with same number of steps. The only difference is one embeds it in the post and the other puts it below the post in a thumbnail.

Am I wrong? Am I missing something?

 

[bmwrd0]

I use Flicker, on both my laptop and especially my phone. This uploads the photo directly to Flicker's database, which I then access from my laptop without uploading the photos to said laptop. I prefer to keep them in "the cloud" so to speak as it doesn't take up any memory of my own. If you are ok with that, it skips the steps of uploading them to my system and then uploading them to GJ. I just open up Flicker, click a couple buttons to get a URL code and copypasta into my comments.

edit: it's probably no different in terms of time or effort, but simply what seems more natural to me. I could never figure out how Outlaw had both in his posts, and so I figured out this method. There is always the concern of another Photobucket fiasco, but all the photos are still backed up in various drives, and there is always the chance that GJ could shut down and lose any photos that way.

Oh, and on a more personal note for you Lugz, I have been resizing my photos down to both save bandwidth on someone's back end, and give you a better viewing experience in the new GJ.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Thanks. I get it now. As for the photos, now you're making me feel guilty! HAHA. I've always use 750 x 525 landscape, 450 x 600 portrait.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Guess what Stupid didn't know was already back?!

 

[Smokeshow69]

Thanks. I get it now. As for the photos, now you're making me feel guilty! HAHA. I've always use 750 x 525 landscape, 450 x 600 portrait.

What picture dimensions do most folks normally post in ? I dont really resize my photos so I am guilty as well.

 

[Old Radar]

Yeah, but which blabbermouth was he parenthetically referring to, you or me?!

Vagueness can be all-encompassing...

 

[gearhead1960]

The old GJ format stated there was a size limitation on the photo size. I originally tried to comply with that, but it didn't seem to matter. Now I just resize to around 1500-3000 pixels and let it fly. With the new format, it just resizes the photo to fit the frame..... the photos I posted earlier of the electronics book were around 3000x2000 pixel in size....

 

[RTM]

I personally prefer not to shrink my photos, as I know lots of users on other forums that really like to zoom in on the details. I've found a few forums that let them display in a fixed frame, but if you clicked, you got the full sized image. I do feel guilty for not looking for a way to reduce the real estate they take if you don't care, but have not taken the time to really look into better options that are easy for me and the users here.

I knew people on another forum ages ago where some uploaded lots of pics to the forum's storage, and when the forum went out, all the images went with them, and the descriptions they added. Some had not made good backups of their photos, so we lost the photo and the names of all the people in them.

 

[Smokeshow69]

I personally prefer not to shrink my photos, as I know lots of users on other forums that really like to zoom in on the details. I've found a few forums that let them display in a fixed frame, but if you clicked, you got the full sized image. I do feel guilty for not looking for a way to reduce the real estate they take if you don't care, but have not taken the time to really look into better options that are easy for me and the users here.

I knew people on another forum ages ago where some uploaded lots of pics to the forum's storage, and when the forum went out, all the images went with them, and the descriptions they added. Some had not made good backups of their photos, so we lost the photo and the names of all the people in them.

This feature is present in the new forum format You can do all kinds of really cool things now.

 

[RTM]

Oooh, just grab the frame and shrink it down, I like that.

Now, ignorant question(s), was that feature always there and I never used it? Can I go back and shrink some of my overly large ones? Time will tell

Yes, you can go back and shrink previously posted overly large ones, and they will still expand to fit the screen. Yeah for the new software.

 

[mikeinri]

Testing...

Mike

 

[gearhead1960]

Testing...

Mike

 

[mikeinri]

Cool, that worked! That wheelbarrow was left behind by the PO of this house when we moved in 16 years ago. The only original parts left are the tub and legs.

Everyone needs a "beater" wheelbarrow that you can throw rocks, sticks, concrete, etc. into without caring about the paint. BUT, if the tire or handles fail, it becomes useless.

This has a flat-free tire, best improvement I made to it...

Mike

 

[RagTopTA]

Not from lack of trying, nor disinterest, I have not found that post. Acknowledging my unfamiliarity using the new platform’s search feature, I suspect it doesn’t access all posts yet. I’m sure you must have posted more than twice on the 2017 GS Thread, but even removing everything but your username, it only returned two hits to me. Nothing in 2018… I’ll give it a break and try again.

I found it!! And my K Swrenches were with it. Found it in only the second randoms box I looked through! Do yall have random boxes all over filled with good sruff you havent cleaned up yet and it gets shoved in a corner and forgotten?

 

[Smokeshow69]

I found it!! And my K Swrenches were with it. Found it in only the second randoms box I looked through! Do yall have random boxes all over filled with good sruff you havent cleaned up yet and it gets shoved in a corner and forgotten?

Oh whatever do you mean, box of randoms ? I think i only currently have about 6 of those boxes sitting in my garage now Including the box of goodies you just sent me. I am ocd so I have to clean and catalog my randoms before I can put them away...which creates a back log

 

[RagTopTA]

hah I think I have about 20 or so boxes like this. Def not cataloged though!

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Do yall have random boxes all over filled with good sruff you havent cleaned up yet and it gets shoved in a corner and forgotten?

I think that's in the GJ pledge. It's like the high tide mark on a beach. It just keeps building up until I finally do the hard part. Storing it by brand or type or category somewhere I will remember where it is!

 

[Old Radar]

Testing...

Mike

That's some high resolution! When I click on it I can see your neighbor down the street has a letter in his mailbox from the IRS!

 

[wrenchguy]

and grade 8 bolts.

 

[RagTopTA]

I think that's in the GJ pledge. It's like the high tide mark on a beach. It just keeps building up until I finally do the hard part. Storing it by brand or type or category somewhere I will remember where it is!

I have to clean out my tool room... thats gonna be some craziness. It's full! Who knows what's in there. Found a 1 HP CM Block grinder in there I totally forgot I had gotten! Also banged my toe on a Dodge Vise in the floor!

 

[LesserSon]

Random stuff. Yep. Heaps.
Your mystery wrench looks more like 7338C than Z338C. Maybe it’s the light. Or maybe there’s a ding under mine - I haven’t finished cleaning it. I set up a wire wheel outside this afternoon, but didn’t get to that wrench before a band of thunderstorms swept through.

 

[RagTopTA]

Random stuff. Yep. Heaps.
Your mystery wrench looks more like 7338C than Z338C. Maybe it’s the light. Or maybe there’s a ding under mine - I haven’t finished cleaning it. I set up a wire wheel outside this afternoon, but didn’t get to that wrench before a band of thunderstorms swept through.

Yes I think its a 7. Nothing I can find in Google searches. Maybe someone will recognize the makers mark.

 

[NJ Marty]

I had to share this. I got to a tool sale a bit late over the weekend and the basement was packed with the tool guy crowd. I let it rest and checked out the kitchen, I like looking there also when the tools have to wait. This Pyrex was in the cabinet above the stove prob since the 1970's. Its a good one and ran it to my car after the 20 bucks changed hands. It has many decades of grease on it but will clean up nicely.
I did get some good tools but this blows them all away.
I will post a few tools from the sale when I get pics.

 

[Provincial]

Back on the subject of embedded photos: I notice some posts are slow to load. I think these have embedded photos, and wonder if those are ones with high resolution.

If this slows down viewing for others, perhaps we should be compressing embedded photos.

With the old software, I used the 1,000 pixel maximum height as my target for compression. I still do, and use the thumbnails.

 

[LesserSon]

Aw, rats!
When RTM said “frame” I wondered whether editing a post would now change the content of a quote from it. Ran into “Oops! You have reached the maximum number of edits in a 24-hr period” error…So I don’t know the answer, AND I’m going to have to reign in my typical “post first, proof read later” habits.

 

[LesserSon]

NJ Marty, I think the last time I saw that chafing dish, it was filled with halupki. I suppose mac & cheese would suffice these days.

 

[duddly]

Wow... I had some catching up to do. Lots of great stuff here. I hope to get out this weekend but have been using a 'little' more discipline lately.

Are any of you Proto guys interested in this box? Not exactly local for me. Stafford VA

EDIT: FYI - my first attempt at inline pictures after reading all the comments - not sure how to control size yet... gotta work on that...
edit again: learning... I think I shrunk it down.

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[d42jeep]

Back on the subject of embedded photos: I notice some posts are slow to load. I think these have embedded photos, and wonder if those are ones with high resolution.

If this slows down viewing for others, perhaps we should be compressing embedded photos.

With the old software, I used the 1,000 pixel maximum height as my target for compression. I still do, and use the thumbnails.

I wonder if that has to do with internet speed? I have fiber optic internet in the Bay Area and even the large images are loading instantly. I guess I’ll find out in the mountains next week when I only have HughesNet satellite internet.
-Don