2023 Garage Sale Thread

[bubinga]

It's officially winter, -1*C, and really starting to get into the serious pickers' season at the flea market now, when you don't have to walk as far, because all the sellers are grouped up, and there's little to no beanie babies and household bric-a-brac.

Today's visit (Lugz 2023_44) yielded:



- a couple wartime MOPAR manuals
- a Crowntop era drill index
- pliers from Fairmount, PENENS, and England (T. Williams)
- unknown tappet wrench
- early pressed steel Hinsdale DOE wrench
- GAMM MFG nested screwdriver(s) catnip
- Light switch plate (late stocking stuffer for my son, the chess and poker player extraordinaire)

 

[Private Lugnutz]

@bubinga
???

Which brand are the gullwing slipjoints, Lugz? Penens?

Yessir. Vlchek OEM. I guess Plomb (and eventually, Pendleton Tool Industries, Inc.) had two plants (former Vlchek and former J.P. Danielson) both pumping out pliers for multiple brands.

 

[bubinga]

NM Private, at ease! They were not showing up for me (The Pictures)
They are there now though. As you were!

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Rgr/Ack

 

[craftsman creep]

Today’s tool haul at Hamilton, tool and supply in PA.

Crescent. Wrenches.
Pliers
Vice grips
Screwdrivers/nut drivers
Tongue and groove pliers
Wrenches
Tape measure, and prybar
All for $50

 

[d42jeep]

Nice haul. I think I know where the Wayne groove joint pliers will end up. Looks like a “you ****” group to me.
-Don

 

[alinc100]

One FBM listing today and a 30 minute trip yielded this Craftsman Crowntop set of 1/2" drive goodness. I haven't found it's exact likeness in the catalog but I suspect '68-'72 range.

 

[gpw_42]

Last week I made a trip to Texas to visit some old friends and do some hunting. Convinced my host to stop by the local pawn shop (near Ft Cavazos, formerly Ft Hood), where I picked up these tidbits: 1975 (full) box of Winchester 7mm Mauser ammo and a couple additions to my slowly building post-war Williams 3/4” dr. “set.” The 1-1/4” socket still has a GI label on it; the 1-1/2” is clean. Also not pictured is a SnapOn 100th Anniversary coozie.

In the LBE category was a very nice looking 16ga Winchester Model 12. If it hadn’t had a full choke barrel on it, I’d have found a way to buy it. Sorry, no pics of the shotgun.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I forgot to post my LEFT-BEHINDs...

Two cheap HARROLD pliers with a galvanized finish (if only to show that I don't bring home all pliers I see...! ), a neat urban plate, iron, with some old, funny ordinance on it (too expensive!); and Two and Three-Quarters Stooges!

 

[LesserSon]

Wow, Lugz. That iron plaque is thought-provoking.
What type of balcony deserves such stringent protection against encumberances? Maybe some element of a fire escape?
In what era was a day of imprisonment considered an equitable complement to a $1 fine?
Too bad about the price.

 

[BlueBomber]

I added 14 more to the collection. However, I didn't check the box-- there were supposed to be 18. Amongst the cooler missing covers was an iconic Studebaker hubcap. At $60 for the lot, I'm over $5 per for 14 caps, more than I wanted to pay for an art project. I messaged the guy to see if he had the missing ones, but I'm not optimistic I'll even hear back.

Well, some humans are amazing! The guy checked with his coworkers and found the one who thought the box by the door meant they were "free for the taking". My seller will have them back next week for me and apologized for the trouble.

 

[Marsim]

Got these for free at a weird yard sale today. It was a condemned building. The Sargent 500 br is in pretty good shap, looks better than the pics. The hospital door signs should clean up nice (1950?). Got a few other things still in the car until tomorrow.

 

[Outlawmws]

a small mill vise

Drill press vise actually, but still a nice find!

Must be 50 or 100 ft. of 12/2 with ground! $2.50!
Can O homemade fishing sinkers, $1.00!

You ****!

Yes he does!

catnip

Bwahaha!

- Light switch plate (late stocking stuffer for my son, the chess and poker player extraordinaire)

That's cool, and a perfect gift!

- a Crowntop era drill index

Are the racks linked? Wondering how long General was making those for Sears.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Wow, Lugz. That iron plaque is thought-provoking.

Right? I've been trying to date it based on the penalty. If 10 days in the slammer was equivalent to a $10 fine, it had to be when $10 was not a small sum. And yes, my thoughts exactly. Something that would endangering a life.

Are the racks linked?

Yes.

Wondering how long General was making those for Sears.

Exactly my thoughts. They really stretched that patent, too, right?

 

[Private Lugnutz]

@LesserSon
Got it! Turn of the century piece. I may have to see if I can talk him down on Sunday. Neat piece of history.

 

[RTM]

Right? I've been trying to date it based on the penalty. If 10 days in the slammer was equivalent to a $10 fine, it had to be when $10 was not a small sum. And yes, my thoughts exactly. Something that would endangering a life.

It was 10 days AND $10, wasn’t it?

Here is a link to a post on the topic

Fire Escape Plaques in Ditmas Park

Old plaques on fire escapes say that placing anything on them may result in a $10 fine--a fine that dates back to 1885.

bklyner.com

 

[Private Lugnutz]

It was 10 days AND $10, wasn’t it?

One or the other, or both. Up to the magistrate. See my last post.

Apparently something of a collectible. Who knew?! Maybe I should've. I like fire escapes. I've posted several in the 'Phone Pic of the Day' thread, most recently here.

 

[Smokeshow69]

It's officially winter, -1*C, and really starting to get into the serious pickers' season at the flea market now, when you don't have to walk as far, because all the sellers are grouped up, and there's little to no beanie babies and household bric-a-brac.

Today's visit (Lugz 2023_44) yielded:



- a couple wartime MOPAR manuals
- a Crowntop era drill index
- pliers from Fairmount, PENENS, and England (T. Williams)
- unknown tappet wrench
- early pressed steel Hinsdale DOE wrench
- GAMM MFG nested screwdriver(s) catnip
- Light switch plate (late stocking stuffer for my son, the chess and poker player extraordinaire)

Wow, nice find on the wartime Mopar manuals! That w series should include the civilian W series 4wd aka powerwagon?

 

[four.cycle]

I voted!

 

[Private Lugnutz]

That w series should include the civilian W series 4wd aka powerwagon?

You'd think so, but it's a little ambiguous. I won't tangent the thread too much on this here.

In summary, technically, there was no such thing as an Army "Power Wagon" during WWII. The name was first used in March 1946 by Dodge for the civilian version of the 3/4-ton 4 x 4 series of trucks built by Dodge for the Army from 1942 to 1945. My understanding is that Dodge gave them a "WDX" designation. There are no WDX designations under the Model Code column. My further understanding is that Dodge gave them the engineering code "T137" and that became something of a nerdy alternate moniker for them from Power Wagon aficionados over the years. There are no T137 designations in the Engineering Code column. (Note, that's not Dodge listing their military production and reusing the Army's abbreviation for "Weapons Carrier" - a common misnomer, at the top of the list; Dodge's code for 1/2-ton 4 x 4 was always "WC".) On the plus side, those WD20-21 entries for 1942, 1946, and 1947 have the correct displacement in cubic centimeters (230.2) for the military 3/4-ton 4 x 4 and its civilian version, so maybe that's our boy and the WDX designation came later.

I plan to ask 2018 GJ Garage Sale thread PotY @tin medic about it. I essentially had him in mind when I bought it. And if he doesn't need it, someone else who owns a Dodge G502 (3/4) or G505 (1/2) might want it.

Either way, a very useful book for someone. The elegant thing about Dodge and all these trucks at this time was the parts interchangeability.

 

[Outlawmws]

Lugz, I had a 53 M37 weapons carrier that I converted from its original civy conversion and rebuilt end to end. Not sure of the earlier models bu while the army rated it at 3/4 yon, it's brakes at least were same as a civilian 1 Ton. just overbuilt! I can't say if the axles were also 1 ton, or the chassis.

 

[Outlawmws]

I peaked in at voting progress for new Host adn POTY: Only 30 and 37 votes respectively guys!

Vote! and vote often!

2024 Garage Sale Thread host poll-
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/2024-garage-sale-thread-host-vote-now.526134/

***Picker of the Year poll ***please vote***
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum...of-the-year-poty-poll-thread-vote-now.526138/

 

[alinc100]

I peaked in at voting progress for new Host adn POTY: Only 30 and 37 votes respectively guys!

Vote! and vote often!

2024 Garage Sale Thread host poll-
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/2024-garage-sale-thread-host-vote-now.526134/

***Picker of the Year poll ***please vote***
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum...of-the-year-poty-poll-thread-vote-now.526138/

Stuff the ballot box????
Is there any way in the forum software to count how many different posters posted in the Garage Sale thread? You know to sort of figure out the ratio of voters to users/eligible to vote?

 

[four.cycle]

considering that there are roughly a hundred participants in the "Secret Santa" gift exchange, 30 or 35 votes here is grossly disproportionate.
surely there have been more than 30-35 players over the last 12 months here in "garage sale".

 

[Raineman]

Even though I've been mostly absent from playing for the 2nd half of the year (maybe even longer, I can't remember), I voted.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I peaked in at voting progress for new Host adn POTY: Only 30 and 37 votes respectively guys!

Is there any way in the forum software to count how many different posters posted in the Garage Sale thread? You know to sort of figure out the ratio of voters to users/eligible to vote?

surely there have been more than 30-35 players over the last 12 months here in "garage sale".

Actually, those numbers and that ratio are fair to good. 30-40 voters is probably 30-40%. And those voters are probably core.

We've been through this before in previous years this time of year. The old site would tabulate the thread for you, providing total number of posts, and a list of all participants and their post counts in descending order. You can't do that with the new site, but I suspect that 2023 has run pretty typically.

Usually, we've always attracted close to 100 total participants. But ~20 of those would be < 5 posts, ~20 would be in the 6-10 posts range, ~20 in the 11 to 50 posts range, ~20 in the 51 to 100 posts range, ~10 in the 101-200 post range, ~5 in the 200+ posts range, and ~5 in the 300+ posts range. That top 40 are the core and the top 20 are the super users, the guys that are here all the time. Not only posting hauls, but posting about others' hauls - which is the lifebread of the thread. It's a popular thread, but there really aren't that many superusers.

If you search the thread on a user name, you can see all their posts, presented in pages, with 20 posts per page.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Lugz, I had a 53 M37 weapons carrier that I converted from its original civy conversion and rebuilt end to end.

The only bad word in this statement is "had."

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I did get out this morning (Lugz 2023_45), which is unusual for me.



- Very unexpected marking on the flip side of the fence tool. I'm not going to make it one of my full-blown Lugzs' Game Time games, but I won't reveal the branding until I post it on the 'Fencing Pliers' thread down on the VB. If anyone wants to have fun guessing, have at it!

- That dual-ended OD green toothbrush is a very rare and highly desirable K-9 model, active duty vintage! The long bristles are for your own teeth, the short ones are for your dog's!

- L.S. Starrett gauge

- I wish I had the pocket telescoping roachclip in the 70's! It may have prevented all kinds of burn marks on car seats and jeans! (Seriously, I have NO IDEA what this thing is for. It extends to several feet. But at that length, how would you be able to squeeze the alligator clip to grab something or to let something go? I suppose it would be useful for holding something near, in, or on something else at more than an arm's length away, but I can't imagine what that would be.)

- Bizarre Far From Perfect Handle Screwdriver

 

[RTM]

- I wish I had the pocket telescoping roachclip in the 70's! It may have prevented all kinds of burn marks on car seats and jeans! (Seriously, I have NO IDEA what this thing is for. It extends to several feet. But at that length, how would you be able to squeeze the alligator clip to grab something or to let something go? I suppose it would be useful for holding something near, in, or on something else at more than an arm's length away, but I can't imagine what that would be

Back in the day, my dad would have loved that for lighting the furnace. Light the match clip it in, lower it into the floor unit.

He used a custom bent coat hanger instead.

Imagine using it to hold something far away, rather than to grab it far away.

 

[Outlawmws]

The only bad word in this statement is "had."

Even with a "modern" Ford 289 in it. its max top highway speed was about 50 MPH.

And by "Conversion" I really meant it!

I wish I had pics of my old car hauler I built it into:

53 M37 weapons carrier converted to a flat bed after Surplus sale, I bought it dead from a company corp yard, stripped the cab, Flathead and ****** out, replaced the engine and ****** with a Ford 289, and Scout 4 speed with a transfer case (kept the M37 Xfer so I had tons of low gearing available, and cut the bed off a 61 Econoline "van" pickup (Think PG&E pickup from the 60's), and used the cab, (tilt cab with a hydraulic tilt) extended the flatbed forward 3-4 feet.

It was awesome! But not to practical IIR the axle gear ratio was 5:89 or so. even with those huge factory tires, very low gearing. Also just a 2 passenger cab. he bed was 3/8 thick steel plate, I estimated its empty weight at about 6000 lbs...

I did use it to pull two huge stumps though - the stump of a 3-4 ft diameter pepper wood tree (we estimated the weight of the stump at 3000) and a digger pine from my mom's front yard - cut the (dead) tree to about a 12 ft stump and cabled to the top of that, and used the truck as a "sideways pile driver/cable slide hammer" and ripped the roots up, cut those and went the other way once one side was done.
A tree surgeon that had offered to take the tree down for my mom stopped to watch me doing the initial pull and told my mom "He will never get that out like that" and about then, over it came. His jaw was on the ground.

It's main purpose was car hauler for my race car to the local dirt track though. in the spring the pits were always a muddy mire and trucks/trailer often got stuck, which is why I wanted a 4WD hauler...

Once I quit racing I didn't need it. I sold it to a guy building a boys ranch in Arizona or Mew Mexico. He wanted it for clearing brush, and liked that it already had pulling history. (His 4 wheel truck could not do it, not enough gearing or weight)

 

[Outlawmws]

I can't imagine what that would be.

lighting the furnace.

This (Think gravity floor furnaces) and for water heaters (when short)

- Bizarre Far From Perfect Handle Screwdriver

Need more pics!

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I had made a joke about lighting a fuse, then deleted it. Makes sense. But intended purpose? Idk. There's a magnet on the other end, btw. Branded Mueller on the clip.

 

[Old Radar]

I could see it being used to pass things like receipts, weight slips, etc., out a drive-up window or across a partition. When I took brush to the dump in Virginia a couple of months ago (where I broke my wrist), you drove up on a vehicle scale to be weighed and the attendant passed the paperwork to you out of her window with one of those two foot long pistol-grip picker-uppers. Yours could be a precursor to the pistol-grip thingy.

 

[mikeinri]

I peaked in at voting progress for new Host adn POTY: Only 30 and 37 votes respectively guys!

Vote! and vote often!

2024 Garage Sale Thread host poll-
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/2024-garage-sale-thread-host-vote-now.526134/

***Picker of the Year poll ***please vote***
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum...of-the-year-poty-poll-thread-vote-now.526138/

I tried voting again, it won't let me... LOL

I haven't caught the "bug" to do my own GS shopping (but I did visit a ReStore for the first time this year).

I tend to collect the freebies from work, which have slowed down for the moment, but should pick back up next year. It's been great working for a Lean nazi, seems like anything that doesn't get used for more than a few months gets his attention to pitch!

The previous managers were all hoarders. Biggest challenge for me is knowing when NOT to take more stuff than I can squeeze into my garage (and I REALLY need to get better about that!!!).

Mike

 

[Old Radar]

Last week I made a trip to Texas

And you didn't even call?? Sputter! Sputter! Harrumph!

@LesserSon
Got it! Turn of the century piece. I may have to see if I can talk him down on Sunday. Neat piece of history.

Lugz's typical Bulldog tenacity on full display!

Usually, we've always attracted close to 100 total participants. But ~20 of those would be < 5 posts, ~20 would be in the 6-10 posts range, ~20 in the 11 to 50 posts range, ~20 in the 51 to 100 posts range, ~10 in the 101-200 post range, ~5 in the 200+ posts range, and ~5 in the 300+ posts range. That top 40 are the core and the top 20 are the super users, the guys that are here all the time. Not only posting hauls, but posting about others' hauls - which is the lifebread of the thread. It's a popular thread, but there really aren't that many superusers.

Lugz is dead-on. As last year's host, I was pretty finicky (some claim ****...) about keeping track of post stats in the 2022 GS thread. Looking back over my tabulations from last year, (so what if I still have them!) I show approximately (okay, exactly...) 47 members posted 20 or more times as of 25 Dec 22. Fourteen of those had posted over 100 times. Two had posted 350 times--any PRIVATE guesses on who those OUTLAyers were?

 

[Outlawmws]

I tried voting again, it won't let me... LOL

If on a phone try a computer, or if on a computer try a different browser?

 

[Outlawmws]

any PRIVATE guesses on who those OUTLAyers were?

 

[four.cycle]

"Actually, those numbers ..."

I have to take your word for it, as I was absent for a good portion of the year and try to limit my comments in the thread as I'm not really a "garage sale" person - just an observer fishing for new entries for the list.

Perhaps the lack of participation in voting THIS WEEK - right before Christmas - is simply because peoples' focus currently is on the holiday.

 

[mikeinri]

If on a phone try a computer, or if on a computer try a different browser?

You do know I'm kidding, right???

(I mean, YES, I did try, but just to see what would happen. I don't need to stuff the ballot box and cause an investigation that might get me banned!!!)

Mike