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21' X 5' - Lean To Shed - Help on Cost Saving

dreamzdecora

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Planning to build 21' X 5' Lean To shed that goes on the side of the house. HOA partially approved the plan with revised request like 8' Max to the roof peak including the foundation and color samples.
Besides that everything is good. I initially thought that building DIY shed will save lot of money. But my calculation came to $800 plus without adding Trims, roofing and doors.

I am not sure where the items are beefed up. Price took from Home Depot - local lumber is exactly 10% less than home depot on all the wood.

Shed will be installed 4" away from the Brick Wall - due to drain pipes (6) running near that wall

Purpose of the Shed :
Store Crown Molding wood sticks and Lawn Items

Brief Design Plan :
21' X 5' Shed.
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Floor Runners -
2X4 Pressure Treated - Spaced at 24" OC
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Floor Joists :
2X4 Pressure Treated - Spaced at 14" OC
Middle Support 2X4s to hold the Flooring joint
Has to be made as two frames due to length
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Vapor Barrier
6mm Barrier on top of Joists

Flooring
3/4" Pressure Treated Plywood
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Rear Wall
16" OC
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Front Wall
16" OC
5' Door Opening - Double Door 2.5' + 2.5' - due to restriction on neighbor fence
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Left Wall & Right Wall
16" O.C
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dreamzdecora

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LP Smart Siding
12 Sheets of 4 X 8 Siding
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Rafters
Spaced at 16 OC


Roofing Sheathing
5 OSB Sheets
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Fascia Boards
For Front and Back of Rafters
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dreamzdecora

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Without Considering anything Else - Cost right now is $882 without Tax from Home Depot.

Even say I can save 20% by going outside, then I have to pay drop shipping of $115 to Lumber Store.

I still need to consider Cost for Roofing, Doors, Trims , Fasteners, Glue, Painting and 4" Slab $500. I am not worried about Slab Cost.

Where can I cut down the cost on Shed construction.
 

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Why not let the concrete slab serve as the floor? Also, a true lean-to usually uses the wall of the existing building as one side. You would attatch ledger to the house to support the rafters. Be sure to properly flash the joint between the siding on the house and new roof. This should save a good amount.
 

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I was going to ask why you was putting up an new back wall, when you already have one on the other shed/garage or what ever it is up against. But I see some one else asked before me...
 

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Using the common wall of the existing structure will save a lot on sheathing and framing lumber. It will also be stronger and be part of the structure.

Hopefully you don't encroach upon the setback from the property line. That would be something to know now before you start.

Since you're talking about longer strips of trim, I recommend adding a small hatch/access door on one end of about 12" x 24" so you can simply pass long lengths into the shed from one end as long as the trim pieces.
 
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Using the common wall of the existing structure will save a lot on sheathing and framing lumber. It will also be stronger and be part of the structure.

Hopefully you don't encroach upon the setback from the property line. That would be something to know now before you start.

Since you're talking about longer strips of trim, I recommend adding a small hatch/access door on one end of about 12" x 2" so you can simply pass long lengths into the shed from one end as long as the trim pieces.

^^ ^ This. And if you have long enough shed, but with shorter stock, you could have access hatch doors on each end of shed in "attic" area and double your storage space for long trim boards.

My dad's farm property has barn with open hatch door on 2nd floor and it's great place for storing wood, even though have to turn wood sticks once up in attic.

For OP you'll want straight shot for wood to go in & out . . ie thru access door(s).
 
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dreamzdecora

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Thanks All

Pallet Wood
I didnt like the finish of it, if not i would do it. It will be on side of the house.

Door Access :
@vegaman @ CNG - I was thinking in the beginning to add one at the End - I was worried about structural stability. Reading more online - I am going to add the another Door on 3' Wide on one side.

Property Easement line check :
@ Vegaman - Checked it against the property survey , slab will be 6" away from the easement line. Good to go on that side.

Wood Storage:
@southalaba....my garage look like **** with load of unused items, Some of the moldings i keep is Polyurethane crown molding for part time work - i do crown molding work on side. I cant cut it all the time...hence i need some room to store that craps...

Against the Brick Wall: :bowdown:
that could save me some wood , plus siding and fasteners. I need to figr out the How to attach the Ledger board to Brick wall.
Max Height of the Shed shall be strictly 8' including the foundation of the slab. which leaves me that i cant hit the wood between first floor and second floor.
If i am able to use the brick wall as rear side of the shed, I can increase the size to 23' :rocker: ( in the community HOA rule, max allowed is 120 Sq.ft )

I need to find out how to attach the ledger to brick wall that can support 23' X 5'.

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One of the member from this forum did use the brick wall , but didnt use the ledger board.
 
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dreamzdecora

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User Aluminium13 build this 4' X 8' against the brick wall - but didnt use ledger board.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=104624

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Wedge anchors spaced prolly every foot staggering top and bottom. Same as building a deck. It doesn't have to go into structure. What's your location? Do you have to worry about snow?
 
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dreamzdecora

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Sample Video

I am worried that i am distrubing the brick wall - Not sure brick wall will hold the weight & 110 MPH speed rating.

Not sure whether i can link other forum , just googled -


Post 7, 8, 9, clearly against going through the brick.
 
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dmlehmann

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I looked into building a small lean-to shed attached to my house. The county labeled it a home addition and required permitting. The size of the shed had no bearing whatsoever on the need for a permit. For me, it became cost prohibitive and I still don't have a shed.
 
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dreamzdecora

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Lehmann, I also need permit for the shed - But i am not going to go for it for many reasons. I haven't parked my cars inside the garage for 2 years.

I want the shed to last longer - at least 6 years. House is 6 years old, so far no issues, i just don't want to mess this up without following common recommended practice.

Initially I thought, i can build the shed in $400, yes if i steal the wood and sheathing :)
 
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