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wolverine22391

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Good afternoon guys and gals. So I hace been looking but can't find exactly what I am looking for. About a year ago I had secured a extension cord at my business that they were going to scrap. The cord was a 220v 12-3 extension cord roughly 125-150 feet in length. I wanted to mount this on the ceiling once my lift is installed. I have been looking just for a retractable reel, but no luck any help is welcomed. The cord will be used mostly for welding and any other 220v applications.

Thanks again for the help Andrew.
 

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I don't think you're going to find a spring-driven reel that will retract 150 ft of 12 ga. But if you're working with a shorter length of that wire, electric reel manufacturers like Cox have reels that are rated up to 25A @ 300V, with 600V slip rings.
 
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It saves a lot of work to add an outlet to the lift wire and to skip the reel for that. You are adding a long wire you may not need to, no big deal with low load but you are increasing the length of the circuit mostly on a spool in the ceiling without going anywhere.
Cord reels in electric are for reaching utility out in floor space. My neighbor did this to reach a couple machines that seem to find a home in the middle, it has its drawbacks.
It would make a great cord for a 200 mig welder but my guess is that an outlet on the hoist post would work just as good or better and not cost a thing.
 
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I work for Coxreels and one thing most people do not realize is that electric cord tightly wrapped on a reel with a high amp draw on it causes a lot of heat. Most reel MFG's reccomend that on cord and cable reels that the cord be fully extended before using.
 

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There are great places for reel but this is probably not one of them. I have one on outdoor in the summer and at my bench corner mostly to run a grinder. There is a recept under it to plug in a table saw, I don't run **** like that from it and it last a long time.
 
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Thank you guys for the input. I was planing on putting receptacles on the side of the lift. I was just hoping I could make better use of the cord on a reel for ease of use. Didn't realize these reels were that expensive. I wanted to mount this in the middle of the shop next to lift so I could use it for welding.

Poll barn is 30x40
 

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Use a piece of it to make a cord. What model welder do you have? I have a reel here, normally the tools plug to the bench but off away it gives enough for a grinder. Its light and convenient I have a cord on the welder to allow it to move and an outlet on the hoist.
 

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The Mohawk and the welder use the same wire and breaker size if you have a 200 class mig. If you get a larger welder that cord is pretty much too small.
It is a great find, I wish I had a couple pieces, I use it as fast as I get it.
 
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The Mohawk and the welder use the same wire and breaker size if you have a 200 class mig. If you get a larger welder that cord is pretty much too small.
It is a great find, I wish I had a couple pieces, I use it as fast as I get it.

So when hardwiring the lift tap into it and add a 220 recepticale?

I was looking at these as options

http://www.millerwelds.com/products/mig/product.php?model=M00487

http://www.millerwelds.com/products/multiprocess/product.php?model=M00361
 

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I hadn't seen the 190, it would work but the 211 isn't that much more and/or would be looking at Hobart. The multi is a bit rich for my taste, there are competitors in that class but to start would prefer a stand alone wire feeder.
 

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I work for Coxreels and one thing most people do not realize is that electric cord tightly wrapped on a reel with a high amp draw on it causes a lot of heat. Most reel MFG's reccomend that on cord and cable reels that the cord be fully extended before using.

I was going to suggest this but see you ve covered it
consider it a giant inductor.
 

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The cord was a 220v 12-3 extension cord roughly 125-150 feet in length. ... The cord will be used mostly for welding and any other 220v applications.

12-3 cord is typically good for 15A for lengths less than 100'. At 150', I would guess it would only be good for 10A. That certainly does not sound adequate for welding or even a 2HP motor.

Voltage really does not matter because even "junior" cordage insulation is good for 300V.
 
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Thank you every body for the advice. So I am probly going to cut the cord into two parts then if I do use it on a reel. The lift is going to be hard wired, and I'll just end up running a 220 & 120 recepticales on the post. I was just hoping that I could find somewhat of a decent priced reel that I could use for whole cable without problems. Thank you guys for clearing this up.

Any more suggestions or ideas are welcomed.
 

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A cord that long sounds ideal, but the practicality of it not so good. I was at an auction and bought a box of cable, some plugs, and receptacles that were mounted in welded together steel boxes. Not the type of boxes you would buy at the box store, I mean home made, thick steel.

At first I was a little disappointed that the cable was in 25-50 foot lengths. Like you I thought I would just have a 80-100 foot cord, and it would reach any where I wanted. I made three cords. One about 25 feet, one about 45 feet and one about 55 feet.

You can not believe how much each cord weighs. You would need something like that cox reel to hold a cord that long. As it is now, they are each hanging on there own separate hook.

I love the shorter ones. Very seldom, if ever, have I had all three hooked up to get to a project.
 
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