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Sooooo.....oven still isn't repaired. Put in a new control board and still no juice to the oven. Considering going 100% gas, we have a split now.

Since I'd no longer need 220 but 110, is this something I can change over without running a new line?
 
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Yes you can. I did it when I downsized from a 220 air conditioner to a 110 unit. If you have a double breaker you need to change it to two single and leave one off. Just use one leg of the 220 line and the neutral. Of course wire nut the other leg that you are not using.
 
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Chaznsc said:
Sooooo.....oven still isn't repaired. Put in a new control board and still no juice to the oven. Considering going 100% gas, we have a split now.

Since I'd no longer need 220 but 110, is this something I can change over without running a new line?
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Have u verified that you have 240v potential at the terminal block in the back where the cord or whip connects to the oven?
 
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You can buy an adapter to covert to 110. Just plugs right on to your 220 range outlet. Did this when I converted. This way the plug and wiring an breaker just stay ad they are incase you want to switch back. Can't remember where I got it.


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TTTTTT said:
You can buy an adapter to covert to 110. Just plugs right on to your 220 range outlet. Did this when I converted. This way the plug and wiring an breaker just stay ad they are incase you want to switch back. Can't remember where I got it.


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This. Common item, I think I got mine at Home Depot. Up here I believe it's code to have a 220 stove outlet regardless of the actual appliance, so you wouldn't want to change the wiring anyway.
 
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TTTTTT said:
You can buy an adapter to covert to 110. Just plugs right on to your 220 range outlet. Did this when I converted. This way the plug and wiring an breaker just stay ad they are incase you want to switch back. Can't remember where I got it.
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This assumes a neutral wire is present. Not legal to use one leg of the 240vac and the ground to get your 120vac....
 
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TTTTTT said:
You can buy an adapter to covert to 110. Just plugs right on to your 220 range outlet. Did this when I converted. This way the plug and wiring an breaker just stay ad they are incase you want to switch back. Can't remember where I got it.


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U would also need to change the breaker.
 
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matt_i said:
This assumes a neutral wire is present. Not legal to use one leg of the 240vac and the ground to get your 120vac....
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It was common for a 3-wire feed for cooking equipment, no grounding conductor present, if this is the case there is likely no code compliant way to convert to 120V, particularly if SE cable was used.
 
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bczygan said:
Link for this device?

And does it work for 3 wire or 4 wire outlets?

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No way for it to be code compliant w/ 3-wire, as there is no grounding conductor, and quite dangerous if not fused w/ 4-wire.
 
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bczygan said:
Link for this device?

And does it work for 3 wire or 4 wire outlets?

Bill
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If you want to re-use the 3 wire cable from an old 240V range outlet for 120V, you will need to change the outlet and you replace the breaker/fuse.

The cable should have 3 wires, black, red and white/green/bare.

If it is black, red and white, the white will be your new neutral and re-label the red with a green piece of tape for ground.

If it is black, red and bare, re-label the red with a white piece of tape for neutral.

The biggest problem is the size of the conductors. You will have to splice some 12 gauge stranded pig tail on (pay a couple of buck and have your hardware store cut you 2' of black, white and green). These splice will likely not fit in the existing outlet J-box, so add another one.

Splices ARE legal inside the load center (fuse/breaker box). If it is a fuse box, you likely have a double cartridge fused PULL disconnect. Remove the existing fuses, and replace ONE of them with a 20A cartridge fuse. You won't need the 12 gauge black wire. You will need adapters to change the diameter of the fuse to make the new fuse fit. Leave the black wire connected to that fuse block. Connect the other wires to their appropriate location (white/re-labeled whit to neutral anf green/re-labled green to ground).

For a breaker, you will need the black 12 gauge wire AND a new 20A breaker.
 
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No . . . do NOT mess with the existing 240v run for electric stove. As other GJer's have posted, there surely will be future homeowners that won't like the gas stove and yank it out. Thus, the need to keep the 240v there.

Just run new 120v circuit if that's what you are wanting.
 
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Your asking a basic electrical question and if your messing with electricity you shouldn't have to ask this question.
 
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Your asking a basic electrical question and if your messing with electricity you shouldn't have to ask this question.
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In other words, if you don't know about a subject, you should never try to learn about it?

I do agree that electrical work can be dangerous, and the rules are complex. And I am just now learning some of the dangers of working with it.

But that doesn't mean you shouldn't learn about it and do the work.

It DOES mean that, if you are a total newbie, that you MUST educate yourself thoroughly. And that means more than a couple Google searches and a single question on a forum.

I'm interested in knowing what a definitive answer to this problem is.

If there is an adapter that works, I want to know what it is and how it works.

Bill

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So I see there are some answers above.

First, there is a device. It only works for the 4 wire and it has a 15A fuse in it to protect the circuit. I wonder if it is replaceable or re-settable. It is costly though (In my book), especially the one linked to in the US.

theoldwizard1 has given a method to rework the circuit, but based on the work involved, I would just add a new 120V circuit or two, leaving the existing 240V one, or taking it out.
 
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bczygan said:
theoldwizard1 has given a method to rework the circuit, but based on the work involved, I would just add a new 120V circuit or two, leaving the existing 240V one, or taking it out.
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Likely easier ! I only stated the method for the case were running new wiring was extremely difficult.
 
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theoldwizard1 said:
If you want to re-use the 3 wire cable from an old 240V range outlet for 120V, you will need to change the outlet and you replace the breaker/fuse.

The cable should have 3 wires, black, red and white/green/bare.

If it is black, red and white, the white will be your new neutral and re-label the red with a green piece of tape for ground.

If it is black, red and bare, re-label the red with a white piece of tape for neutral.

The biggest problem is the size of the conductors. You will have to splice some 12 gauge stranded pig tail on (pay a couple of buck and have your hardware store cut you 2' of black, white and green). These splice will likely not fit in the existing outlet J-box, so add another one.

Splices ARE legal inside the load center (fuse/breaker box). If it is a fuse box, you likely have a double cartridge fused PULL disconnect. Remove the existing fuses, and replace ONE of them with a 20A cartridge fuse. You won't need the 12 gauge black wire. You will need adapters to change the diameter of the fuse to make the new fuse fit. Leave the black wire connected to that fuse block. Connect the other wires to their appropriate location (white/re-labeled whit to neutral anf green/re-labled green to ground).

For a breaker, you will need the black 12 gauge wire AND a new 20A breaker.
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The above method does not comply w/ code as remarking grounding or grounded (neutral) conductors 6 AWG & smaller is NOT permitted.
 
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