24x24x10 Pole Barn Build-Help

[Travis87]

Hey guys, new here but lurked for a while reading articles and posts here and there. Now, I'm hoping I can get some specific help. I'm planning a pole barn build. Planning on a 24x24x10 garage. I'm thinking 2 roll up doors and a side entry door. Trying to do this on a budget but don't want to go too cheap. I live in South Louisisna so there is 0 snow load. My basic thinking is 4x6 posts. 3 on each side 8' apart. Use 4x4 posts for garage doors. Wrap the tops with 2x10 notched in for truss supports. My main questions are

1. Simplest way to frame outside walls? I don't plan on finishing inside. I was thinking 2x4's around the outside 3' centers.
2. Trusses? I want a low pitch roof with no eaves. Also how many? I'm reading most people go 2' OC but I see pictures of a lot with only 4-5 on a 24' building.
3. Purlins? Best to put gussets or to save, could I put 1x4's on top of trusses and go with just metal on top?

Sorry if I sound incompetent. I'm not a carpenter but do plan on tackling this myself. Thanks. Any help is appreciated.

 

[Marctrees]

Two things come to my mind -

There are a number of companys that work your area that do this every day, at quite reasonable prices. They can be in and out in under a week.
Here's one example - and these prices include the floor -

http://www.metalbarnsandgarages.com/pricing-guide/


You will still have plenty to do finishing out and moving into your new mancave.

If you decide to do yourself, why reinvent the wheel? These type of building designs are quite standardized, sure with some variables, but still standardized.

At least,follow their design. Marc

 

[Marctrees]

No, snow load, but hurricane.

It's always somethin. Marc

 

[Marctrees]

And heres a great place to get a ballpark idea of material $ for many different sizes -

https://www.menards.com/main/buildi...4422547434-c-9901.htm?tid=1197356857034923231

 

[Travis87]

Two things come to my mind -

There are a number of companys that work your area that do this every day, at quite reasonable prices. They can be in and out in under a week.
Here's one example - and these prices include the floor -

http://www.metalbarnsandgarages.com/pricing-guide/


You will still have plenty to do finishing out and moving into your new mancave.

If you decide to do yourself, why reinvent the wheel? These type of building designs are quite standardized, sure with some variables, but still standardized.

At least,follow their design. Marc

Well, I've been looking at prices online locally and I believe I can cut the cost by at least 35% by doing the work myself. I know sometimes it's better to let the professionals do it but if I can save money, a lot of times I'm willing to go at it myself. I do plan on calling around a few places to see what it will cost me before I tackle this. I have a guy coming out next week to start the dirt work, gonna bring it dirt and raise up about a foot.

 

[cj7jeep81]

For the girts (2x4's on teh walls) stick with normal 2' spacing, not 3'. You're talking $40 or $50 more for 2x4's, and will be more solid. I would also not use 1x4's for the purlins, use 2x4's. When you place the roof metal, you will be walking on those purlins, and a 1x4 won't support you. On my pole barn, I did trusses on 4' centers. Around here, its typically 4' or 8' centers for pole barns, and the cost really isn't as much as you'd think (trusses designed for 8' centers cost more than those for 4' centers).

Save money on building it yourself, but don't skimp on the materials that much. As for the dirt, make sure they compact it as they place it in lifts, don't just let them dump it all down and drive over it a bit. In a year, it will settle and you'll have a mess.

 

[Travis87]

Thanks for the input. that confirms a lot my thoughts. Was on the fence about the 1x4's up top so I'll be safe and go 2x4. Going to start calling around to different truss companies to see pricing on those. Guess I'll budget 6. Will definitely be making sure dirt is compacted. Thanks again. This project may not get started till end of year or early next. Got a vacation coming up and with all the flooding around here it may be hard to find materials, but I will log my build if I can.

 

[cnttxmdc]

I'm a 100% DIY guy myself. I haven't paid anyone to work on my cars (gas or diesel), diesel trucks, motorcycle, boat, RV, 22 panel solar system, electrical, plumbing, construction, etc. (with the minor exception of having someone hand dig a trench) ever. After looking at the cost to build everything SAFELY, and the liability of the structure for the years to come, I just had a company come out and build my 30x40x16 shop for me. I literally drank a beer or 3 while they were doing the hardest work. Best money I've spent in a long time, and honestly I think I'm happier with how they did it than I would've been doing it myself. There were details they added from their years of experience that I wouldn't have known to do myself.

 

[Travis87]

I still plan on calling a few places to get quotes and see where they fall out at. But, from research I've done online I'm thinking 6-7 grand for the building alone if I hire someone. The rough estimates I've done in my head out me around 4 grand if I do it. Once I get quotes I'll sit down and get a more accurate figure of what it will actually cost me and see where I'm at. I know for a fact if I'll save 2-3 grand, I'll be nailing wood together myself.

 

[cj7jeep81]

I still plan on calling a few places to get quotes and see where they fall out at. But, from research I've done online I'm thinking 6-7 grand for the building alone if I hire someone. The rough estimates I've done in my head out me around 4 grand if I do it. Once I get quotes I'll sit down and get a more accurate figure of what it will actually cost me and see where I'm at. I know for a fact if I'll save 2-3 grand, I'll be nailing wood together myself.

I paid to have some help on mine (and did a lot myself), but I wouldn't hesitate to try to build yours with a couple friends (mine was just too big). For that size, you really don't need a lot of special/heavy equipment, and it would go up pretty quick.

 

[Travis87]

Yes. This is exactly my thinking. This isn't a very complex build. I looked at your building and that is basically what I want, just not as big. I'll probably use yours as a reference when I decide. Thanks for your input.

 

[bowhuntr311]

For the girts (2x4's on teh walls) stick with normal 2' spacing, not 3'. You're talking $40 or $50 more for 2x4's, and will be more solid. I would also not use 1x4's for the purlins, use 2x4's. When you place the roof metal, you will be walking on those purlins, and a 1x4 won't support you. On my pole barn, I did trusses on 4' centers. Around here, its typically 4' or 8' centers for pole barns, and the cost really isn't as much as you'd think (trusses designed for 8' centers cost more than those for 4' centers).

Save money on building it yourself, but don't skimp on the materials that much. As for the dirt, make sure they compact it as they place it in lifts, don't just let them dump it all down and drive over it a bit. In a year, it will settle and you'll have a mess.

^^^^^^ THIS GUY KNOWS WHATS GOING ON. I cant agree more with what is said.

 

[JerryB]

Not trying to nitpick, but this will affect your projected cost:

You spec. 24' long, but then write "My basic thinking is 4x6 posts. 3 on each side 8' apart."

A 24' wall with posts spaced at 8' will require 4 posts on each side.

And your trusses spaced at 24" over 24' will require 7 trusses rather than the 6 you mention.

Buildings using trusses commonly use built in place 2x4 end walls rather than trusses, as they can be supported by the end wall framing.

Hope this helps!

 

[Travis87]

Not trying to nitpick, but this will affect your projected cost:

You spec. 24' long, but then write "My basic thinking is 4x6 posts. 3 on each side 8' apart."

A 24' wall with posts spaced at 8' will require 4 posts on each side.

And your trusses spaced at 24" over 24' will require 7 trusses rather than the 6 you mention.

Buildings using trusses commonly use built in place 2x4 end walls rather than trusses, as they can be supported by the end wall framing.

Hope this helps!

good catch. Haha. Yea, I was simply doing 8x3 in my head and that's where I got three but you are correct. Same with trusses.thats the kind of stuff when I sit down and figure everything I'll catch. Thanks