$2800 from Snap On vs $2800 from Amazon
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scooby074
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Good video. Better than the typical "Snapon is overpriced". Nice to see actual tool recommendations for tools that have been used!
Wamsutta
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I made it to 3 minutes and 20 seconds before I couldn't stand it no more.
That's kind of the entire store. Probably even ownership of the Bauer trademark.
rust in the eye
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This popped up in my Youtube queue. I didn't bite then and not now.
Gotta say I envy the clowns that are able to monetize this ****.
Gotta say I envy the clowns that are able to monetize this ****.
mike93lx
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I watched it this morning and thought the content was good, regardless of the snap on piece. He covered a ton of tools, with prices, model numbers and reasons why he was sharing them.
2ndGearRubber
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If his goal is to state cheaper tools, which can still be high quality, cost less money - I would agree with that.
He's talking snap-on MSRP, versus Amazon price. Zoro sells that same wrench set from gear wrench for $313, not $213 as he's listing. Grainger wants $244 for that OTC ball joint kit, Zoro $170, Summit Racing and JB Tools $165, amazon is $126. So part of this is just the power of amazon and tool discounting sites/markets. In the interest of transparency I've seen that snap-on wrench set on sale for ~2k. Discount to discount, he has a little less to work with. Still you're going to get way more on Amazon no matter how it's sliced.
I have a bunch of the tools he's listing, probably 75% of them, that's basically how you have to buy if you want to do all makes/models. Nobody has $250k starting out. If you have 250 bucks to spend you need to get the most tools (usable tools) out of that money as possible There's no "saving money", it's just getting more tools for a given amount of money. Then you can parlay that money into more work/jobs you can take on, to make more money, to buy more tools, etc. All the options let you pivot easier mid-job to react to problems, which speeds you up and can bypass you coworkers, again funneling work your way.
Reminds me I still need an axle pusher/hub puller tool, still haven't found one I like.
To me, this kind of content is an ad for Amazon above all else. I already pay for Prime, so not a lot of news to me.
He's talking snap-on MSRP, versus Amazon price. Zoro sells that same wrench set from gear wrench for $313, not $213 as he's listing. Grainger wants $244 for that OTC ball joint kit, Zoro $170, Summit Racing and JB Tools $165, amazon is $126. So part of this is just the power of amazon and tool discounting sites/markets. In the interest of transparency I've seen that snap-on wrench set on sale for ~2k. Discount to discount, he has a little less to work with. Still you're going to get way more on Amazon no matter how it's sliced.
I have a bunch of the tools he's listing, probably 75% of them, that's basically how you have to buy if you want to do all makes/models. Nobody has $250k starting out. If you have 250 bucks to spend you need to get the most tools (usable tools) out of that money as possible There's no "saving money", it's just getting more tools for a given amount of money. Then you can parlay that money into more work/jobs you can take on, to make more money, to buy more tools, etc. All the options let you pivot easier mid-job to react to problems, which speeds you up and can bypass you coworkers, again funneling work your way.
Reminds me I still need an axle pusher/hub puller tool, still haven't found one I like.
To me, this kind of content is an ad for Amazon above all else. I already pay for Prime, so not a lot of news to me.
Kurt4440
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This is how I have approached tool purchases over the last 50 years. I didn't have a great deal of money as a kid who started mowing lawns at 10 years old. I needed tools to fix up equipment, then; trucks, cars, other peoples equipment and vehicles....
It seems like the only logical progression especially for non professionals.
Not too many people would spend thousands on tools to fix up their low value vehicle. They would take the easy route and buy a "better" vehicle in order to defer repairs or maintenance. Or they try to cojole capable people into "teaching" them how to fix their vehicle.
Perhaps not many but there are some. Don't ask me how I know...
On another note, I found the video interesting especially with all that said he bought the Snap on set lol. Maybe he should have just called the video how I spent $5600 on automotive tools.
Kurt4440
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Yes, I agree with you that some of us are different. I haven't decided if we are crazy, or just have an incredible need to learn, stay busy, feel accomplished, get things done, suppress boredom....
However, I do know that working on things has taught my children to be more confident and capable, and my wife to be more at ease. It seems you are reaping the same benefits with your family.
You did a great job on the Mercedes and your Ford, but, a better job with your son.
Good Lord. I guess that it's better than old network television situation comedies. You have to assume they're never going to get off that island.
I just spent a few minutes searching for 'I BOUGHT ALL THE ICON TOOLS' and the like and there's a surprising number of people bringing home giant wads of shiny stuff. I suppose there's the equivalent for the other less expensive brands. There's something a little vulgar about the 'tool haul', 'unboxing', etc. but consumer spending is a heckuva lot easier than it used to be and I honestly think people have more money for these matters. Maybe it's because cars and houses are out of reach so it's fun to buy a bunch of stuff.
And don't get me started on YouTube car shows. Artificial deadlines, big jobs magically finished, the Roadkill 'well, here's a $15k crate engine on a pallet we just happened to have over here'. Ridiculous.
I just stick to Cold War Motors on YouTube since it's all done on the cheap and they seem like such good guys, it must be a Canadian thing.
I just spent a few minutes searching for 'I BOUGHT ALL THE ICON TOOLS' and the like and there's a surprising number of people bringing home giant wads of shiny stuff. I suppose there's the equivalent for the other less expensive brands. There's something a little vulgar about the 'tool haul', 'unboxing', etc. but consumer spending is a heckuva lot easier than it used to be and I honestly think people have more money for these matters. Maybe it's because cars and houses are out of reach so it's fun to buy a bunch of stuff.
And don't get me started on YouTube car shows. Artificial deadlines, big jobs magically finished, the Roadkill 'well, here's a $15k crate engine on a pallet we just happened to have over here'. Ridiculous.
I just stick to Cold War Motors on YouTube since it's all done on the cheap and they seem like such good guys, it must be a Canadian thing.
mike93lx
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Did you watch it or just want something new to shake your fist at?
I watched it and then shook my fist.
Old man yells at cloud.
Oh well, there's plenty of clouds to yell at in modern times. A generation of people who stare at little black rectangles causes one to lose hope for humanity.Old man yells at cloud.
I think the test-to-failure videos are pretty interesting, but these tool videos with all the handling of the shiny remind me of a 1/2 hour infomercial for women's fashion items or make-up. It's the Home Shopping Network for Men.
My little black rectangle is high end so it's okay. I feel sorry for the folks with ****** ones.
I could never date a woman who has a phone where you can see the actual pixels.
2ndGearRubber
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Wait until he finds out I use my rectangle to post on this forum.
Word.
Really enjoy his videos and view as entertainment. Also tend to learn or think about approaching things differently from the mechanics interviewed on toolbox tour videos. The adage learn from someone’s else experience comes to mind.
I do think the comparison of Snap-on retail to Amazon prices is a bit off but that’s the world we live in these days right, wrong, or indifferent. But I understand that techs need to stretch their dollar as prices for everything including lower tier brands has increased drastically. As he says in the video everyone values things differently.
What I found really odd in that video was he had ratchet recommendations but no sockets. Figured a basic set would have been included in his lineup.
I do think the comparison of Snap-on retail to Amazon prices is a bit off but that’s the world we live in these days right, wrong, or indifferent. But I understand that techs need to stretch their dollar as prices for everything including lower tier brands has increased drastically. As he says in the video everyone values things differently.
What I found really odd in that video was he had ratchet recommendations but no sockets. Figured a basic set would have been included in his lineup.
My guess is his sockets are Snap-on and it wouldn't have fit the narrative.
Fedwrench
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Tough Crowd 
I watched the video and really didn't see anything wrong with it.
I don't know if some of you guys have gone off the deep end, or it's your brand or nothing.
Amazon is where a lot of peeps get their tools these days, don't see what the issue is.
Maybe it would have made more sense if he stuck to just to the wrench set comparing apples to apples instead of other important tools for a tech to have. Prices are a moving target these days.
I watched the video and really didn't see anything wrong with it.
I don't know if some of you guys have gone off the deep end, or it's your brand or nothing.
Amazon is where a lot of peeps get their tools these days, don't see what the issue is.
Maybe it would have made more sense if he stuck to just to the wrench set comparing apples to apples instead of other important tools for a tech to have. Prices are a moving target these days.
Odd-job
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Must be some sort of conspiracy theory. Clearly must have been paid by Amazon 
Oh and this guy might fit right in here. Looks like his tools are worth more than his vehicle!
I don't know if I am on the more optimistic side of the population, but it doesn't seem to be that bad of time to be alive. Sorry to all you guys who had to grab your ankles back in the day for the tool trucks because Craftsman wasn't cutting it. Personally I am more than happy ordering quality tools while sitting on the can.
Oh and this guy might fit right in here. Looks like his tools are worth more than his vehicle!
I don't know if I am on the more optimistic side of the population, but it doesn't seem to be that bad of time to be alive. Sorry to all you guys who had to grab your ankles back in the day for the tool trucks because Craftsman wasn't cutting it. Personally I am more than happy ordering quality tools while sitting on the can.
VolvoRyan
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No one ever points out how sketchy Amazon can be these days. Lots of weirdo knock-off stuff substituted for brand names. Lots of "un-curated" garbage. Lots of sketchy 3rd party sellers.
We buy, like, everything from Amazon. We have Prime. I drink all that kool-aid by the gallon.... yet lots of important stuff I absolutely will no longer buy from Amazon. Aquarium/pet supplies? Nope. Too many mistakes and wrong items sent. Power tools? Never again. Somehow, I wound up with some knock-off Ryobi batteries. Junk. Dunno when I got them. Milwaukee doesn't really honor warranties for Amazon purchases, and the Milwaukee tools I've bought seem somehow suspect. Probably not.... but still. Lawn mower parts? Whatever. I had a stuff sold to me as genuine Husqvarna.... that I'm sure are not genuine. I'd care more if I wasn't a jerk to my lawn mower. Some parts that get 5-stars were instant garbage....
I can go on. Basically, when it has to matter, I think twice about Amazon purchases. I now have a few hard and fast rules about what specifically can *not* come from Amazon.
Lotsa good stuff on Amazon..... but some scary stuff, too.
-Ryan
We buy, like, everything from Amazon. We have Prime. I drink all that kool-aid by the gallon.... yet lots of important stuff I absolutely will no longer buy from Amazon. Aquarium/pet supplies? Nope. Too many mistakes and wrong items sent. Power tools? Never again. Somehow, I wound up with some knock-off Ryobi batteries. Junk. Dunno when I got them. Milwaukee doesn't really honor warranties for Amazon purchases, and the Milwaukee tools I've bought seem somehow suspect. Probably not.... but still. Lawn mower parts? Whatever. I had a stuff sold to me as genuine Husqvarna.... that I'm sure are not genuine. I'd care more if I wasn't a jerk to my lawn mower. Some parts that get 5-stars were instant garbage....
I can go on. Basically, when it has to matter, I think twice about Amazon purchases. I now have a few hard and fast rules about what specifically can *not* come from Amazon.
Lotsa good stuff on Amazon..... but some scary stuff, too.
-Ryan
blown94conv
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I can buy cheaper options on Amazon? Who would have thought that would be the case.
Jeff makes his Money, Eric makes his money, China got paid, and you got a garage full of bargains. Congratulations.
Jeff makes his Money, Eric makes his money, China got paid, and you got a garage full of bargains. Congratulations.
d.mcfarland
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The link to all the tools in the video in the more info section are all affiliate links.
My thoughts exactly. Their supply chain is so horribly tainted at this point the idea of buying a food item is downright scary.
I'll stick to paper goods and the like.
danski0224
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Amazon links on this website are monetized...
2ndGearRubber
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Right, but I don't see GJ specially listing tools, then offering a sale platform.
Individual members may recommend Amazon, but they're not the ones getting the referral money. It's a divorced process.
FWIW I support him using the monetization links, I typically expect any link to be as such.
Affiliate links are one of the things that allow many channels to not have to work with tool brands at all, take free samples or do paid segments and features. Many of the channel who do those not even mentioning where they tool came from or that there's been 12 emails sent back in forth with the brand regarding the video you're watching before you got to see it.
Of course there's channels that do all of that AND use affiliate links. But it's certainly the lower on the influence end of things, they're not working with an employee in coordination with their content if only using affiliate links. Just generate them for the tools they think people would want to look at.
Of course there's channels that do all of that AND use affiliate links. But it's certainly the lower on the influence end of things, they're not working with an employee in coordination with their content if only using affiliate links. Just generate them for the tools they think people would want to look at.
KnurledNut
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I've watched his toolbox tours in the past and he seems like a great guy. Positive demeanor and great content. This video was no different. Informative and unbiased. I've wondered if he is a member here.
richfinn
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I watch a few of this Guy's videos he seems respectful and cheerful enough, I like some of the toolbox tours (there is a great one with a GJ member), he meets a diverse group of mechanics from auto guys to aviation techs.
I don't think he was knocking Snap-On or baiting the Fan-Boys at all (he owns a fair amount himself)
I think Amazon/ebay can now be a legitimate source for good quality tools at good prices (as long as you know what you're doing)
If he can make a living doing YouTube content, good luck to him I say
I don't think he was knocking Snap-On or baiting the Fan-Boys at all (he owns a fair amount himself)
I think Amazon/ebay can now be a legitimate source for good quality tools at good prices (as long as you know what you're doing)
If he can make a living doing YouTube content, good luck to him I say
Must be some sort of conspiracy theory. Clearly must have been paid by Amazon
Oh and this guy might fit right in here. Looks like his tools are worth more than his vehicle!
I don't know if I am on the more optimistic side of the population, but it doesn't seem to be that bad of time to be alive. Sorry to all you guys who had to grab your ankles back in the day for the tool trucks because Craftsman wasn't cutting it. Personally I am more than happy ordering quality tools while sitting on the can.
I ordered Snap On wrenches while sitting on the toilet because they also have a website.
I skip those links and do the search separately if I want to buy.
2ndGearRubber
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Depends. If I actively like the person, I'll use their links. If I'm doing exploratory research I'll usually toss it in Private Browsing to minimize how much I screw up my own algorithm.
If I'm shopping for door hardware and new knobs I don't want my recommendations polluted for the next 3 weeks because I was browsing.
Polluted is a great word for it.