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Millermatic 180 or Millermatic 211 or Hobart 187 or Hobart 210? Which one of these? other then the price any ideas? Toss up on the four little imput? Thanks again.e-tek
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Millermatic 211 gives you the choice of 120v or 240v, which is handy if you ever want to take the thing out of your shop.
independentrider
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i have a lincoln sp135t and love love love it check it out. I dont know if they make that peticular one anymore but they will have something very similar
My advice, buy whatever welder you wind up buying from an actual welding supply store, the ones you find at Lowes, Homo Depot, etc may have the same model number, but they're not built the same (hence the price difference)...the big box store ones are made of cheaper parts and typically come up short of the same model sold via a welding shop...
Millermatic 211 gives you the choice of 120v or 240v, which is handy if you ever want to take the thing out of your shop.
Good machine and your childeren will be able to still buy replacement parts long after you have exited this earth.
Improved700
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I have the Hobart Handler 187. It was my first welder purchase. Went through a couple spools of the flux core, and now have purchased a C25 cylinder, and solid wire. Makes a huge difference in weld quality. I made a rolling cart for it, since that is the required first project for a new welder, a nice rolling welding table, plus fixed some lawnmower decks, and various other "stuff" around the house and shop that was in need of repair. My welds sometimes dont look the best, but I am baiscally looking to stick two pieces of metal together. My Hobart 187 has a Miller gun on it, and the owners manual show's a Wisconsin address, which is where Miller is made, so I think they are somewhat, somehow related to each other. I've had mine now for a 1 1/2 years, and have not had any problems with it. Good luck with your decision.
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My advice, buy whatever welder you wind up buying from an actual welding supply store, the ones you find at Lowes, Homo Depot, etc may have the same model number, but they're not built the same (hence the price difference)...the big box store ones are made of cheaper parts and typically come up short of the same model sold via a welding shop...
And the guy selling it at HD or Lowes usually does not even know what day it is and was selling mulch yesterday.
StumpXJ
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I also have the Hobart 187, and they are made by Miller. Hobart is a nice machine, its just a matter of figuring what the biggest material you will need to weld with it, and go from there. You cant really have too big of a welder. If you can afford the 210 Hobart, go for it. If you want more portability, use the one that swaps between voltages. I have a smaller Century 155 (120 volt, flux ) for portable stuff, so the Hobart (220volt, MIG) stays in the garage. They are essentially the same machines, just different branding.
~James
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Northstar9126
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I have a Miller 210 which I believe is pretty much the same machine as the Hobart 210 ( Miller owns Hobart ). My 210 is the second love of my life. A joy to use.
slicktoptt
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I have the miller 211 and really like it. Choice of input voltage is a great feature if I need to take it somewhere that does not have 240v. I also like the infinite wire speed and voltage adjustment of the mm211 vs. the 7 preset voltage taps on the HH210. I also like the auto set feature on the 211 that gets you a good starting point to fine tune if you need to.
independentrider
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i have a lincoln sp135t and love love love it check it out. I dont know if they make that peticular one anymore but they will have something very similar
I bought this from a welding store for $550.00. I did a payment deal. It came with the welder, cart, tank, regulator, wire, tips, and everything else I needed to start right up. It's 110 volt but its welded everything I wanted to.
litljay
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I have a miller 140 (110v). It does ok, but is limited in it's abilities.
Advice - buy all the welder you can afford, but do so in a 220V version. If I had it to do over again, I would buy a 220V machine.
Advice - buy all the welder you can afford, but do so in a 220V version. If I had it to do over again, I would buy a 220V machine.
My advice, buy whatever welder you wind up buying from an actual welding supply store, the ones you find at Lowes, Homo Depot, etc may have the same model number, but they're not built the same (hence the price difference)...the big box store ones are made of cheaper parts and typically come up short of the same model sold via a welding shop...
I would agree, Its best to build a relationship with your local welding supply store, most of them will deal on the price plus you are going to need gas, wire tips, etc..
My local supply store for instance just gave me a much better deal on gas prices (40%) less then I was paying!! Now to get that price I had to sign a 3 year deal with them but I was cool with that, I would have used them for the next 3 years anyway as I have been going there for more than 10 years now...
GN4WHLN
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I have a Lincoln Power Mig 180 which is from their industrial line (Not the HD/Lowes consumer machine that looks similar) with a spool gun. Paid just under $700 from a welding supplier. It has been a great machine wheather using it in GMAW, FCAW, or welding Aluminum with the gun. Consumables are easy to get at HD or Lowes.
I have no idea if that price is reasonable, but I know from friends who've used the Miller's with the auto tune and infinite adjustment LOVE them...I've used a few portable Hobarts, and I found them adequate, but I never fell in love with them...my advice, go to your local weld supply shop and try out a few different models...you might just love a brand or model you weren't interested in before...
slicktoptt
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Sounds a little high. You can get the welder and cart here for $1,057 shipped. If you call them rather than go through ebay I think they give you a better deal. Not sure what size tank you were looking at but $420 is a bit much for a tank.
http://cgi.ebay.com/MILLERMATIC-211...ders?hash=item5633f2e150&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
http://cgi.ebay.com/MILLERMATIC-211...ders?hash=item5633f2e150&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Lots of places have the MM211 for 965, shipped. A cart is $50 and a tank is $150. So, no -- that's not a very good deal at all.does $1470 for the millermatic 211, cart, tank filled sound right. Thats with tax and everything.
That said, if its your LWS and you want to start a relationship, maybe it's worth the premium.
(It wouldn't be worth it to me.)
69lm69gp
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Miller does not own Hobart nor does Miller make Hobart welders.
Miller and Hobart are owned by the same company (ITW), and may use some of the same parts. It's like saying Cadillac own/builds Chevy. I own a Millermatic 180 and looked at a HH187 at TSC and the drive assembly is no where near being the same.
That said I chose the Miller because of the infinite voltage control vs. the tapped control of the Hobart. If I where looking now I would get the 211 for a little more top end and the duel voltage.
Miller and Hobart are owned by the same company (ITW), and may use some of the same parts. It's like saying Cadillac own/builds Chevy. I own a Millermatic 180 and looked at a HH187 at TSC and the drive assembly is no where near being the same.
That said I chose the Miller because of the infinite voltage control vs. the tapped control of the Hobart. If I where looking now I would get the 211 for a little more top end and the duel voltage.
I have the Hobart 210 and a good friend has the Miller equivalent. Thy do have many interchangeable parts, as noted above. I love my Hobart am wouldn't pay more for the Miller. Frankly, the difference in wire speed adjustment has never been an issue for me; the adjustments on the Hobart have been more than adequate. I don't think you can go wrong with either of the bigger machines...but I agree the quoted priceis higher than I'd expect