30 amp to 15 amp?

[Onezubi]

Thanks everyone for the great posts.
I have a 30 amp circuit breaker in my main electric panel that I want to tap into, but only run 15 amp receptacles off of it. Is there a safe way to do this. My only other circuit breaker is 50 amp.

 

[slow]

Is the breaker in use or spare? Assuming spare, replace the breaker with a 15 or 20 amp depending on wire size for the receptacles you want to run #14 you can use a 15 amp #12 you can use a 15 or 20 amp breakers.

 

[exranger06]

What do you mean by "tap into?" Is this breaker already feeding some piece of equipment, and you want it to ALSO feed these receptacles?

And you're saying that the only other breaker in the entire panel is a 50 amp breaker? What does that breaker feed? There are no other spaces available in the panel to add more breakers? Pics of the panel would help.

 

[Terry D]

You are not going to be able to post pictures until you have a few more posts. Do a few more posts on other threads, I think you need 5, then you can post pictures. Is this a 2-pole breaker. Is it already feeding something. It doesn't really matter, you cannot do what you are asking. Only 30 amp receptacles can be on a 30 amp circuit. 210.21(B)(3) They do not make 30 amp duplex receptacles.

If this is a spare breaker, remove it and install a 15 or 20 amp breaker and run the correct size wire to the receptacles.

Is the panel full, if so, it may accept tandems. What is the make and model number of your panel.

 

[Onezubi]

There are no empty circuit breakers. It was originally set up for a 30 amp and 50 amp rv hook up. They are both being used. When I get home I will post what brand of box it is. Thanks

 

[infinkc]

Tandem/split breakers should be an option for you to use to replace an existing breaker.

 

[pattenp]

You are not going to be able to post pictures until you have a few more posts. Do a few more posts on other threads, I think you need 5, then you can post pictures. Is this a 2-pole breaker. Is it already feeding something. It doesn't really matter, you cannot do what you are asking. Only 30 amp receptacles can be on a 30 amp circuit. 210.21(B)(3) They do not make 30 amp duplex receptacles.

If this is a spare breaker, remove it and install a 15 or 20 amp breaker and run the correct size wire to the receptacles.

Is the panel full, if so, it may accept tandems. What is the make and model number of your panel.

Saying only 30 amp receptacles can be on a 30 amp circuit is not accurate. To clarify, 210.21(B)(3) applies only to multioutlet receptacles. 210.21(B)(1) is for single outlet receptacles and the amp rating is not to be less than the circuit, so actually you can put a larger amp rated receptacle on a lower amp circuit if it's a single outlet.

 

[pattenp]

Take the 30A or 50A circuit and use it to feed a subpanel and branch the circuits from the subpanel.

 

[Wrench97]

Strange to see a 30a single breaker, let alone a 50a single.

So you will need to remove a single breaker and install 2 half size breakers sometimes called 1/2"/Half size or splits 2 of these fit where 1 standard is removed. You will need to know the correct brand and type that you have now.

 

[Terry D]

Saying only 30 amp receptacles can be on a 30 amp circuit is not accurate. To clarify, 210.21(B)(3) applies only to multioutlet receptacles. 210.21(B)(1) is for single outlet receptacles and the amp rating is not to be less than the circuit, so actually you can put a larger amp rated receptacle on a lower amp circuit if it's a single outlet.

He is talking about multiple receptacles, so 210.21(B)(3) does apply. This is not for a single receptacle. I said only 30 amp receptacles on a 30 amp circuit, I didn't say only a 30 amp receptacle on 30 amp circuit. What I said is accurate. If you remove that "s" from receptacles, it changes the whole meaning

 

[pattenp]

He is talking about multiple receptacles, so 210.21(B)(3) does apply. This is not for a single receptacle. I said only 30 amp receptacles on a 30 amp circuit, I didn't say only a 30 amp receptacle on 30 amp circuit. What I said is accurate. If you remove that "s" from receptacles, it changes the whole meaning

Sorry the "S" didn't equate to me since under IRBC multiple outlets on a 30A or greater circuit isn't allowed. I know the IRBC isn't adopted everywhere but is widely followed. So when speaking of 30A receptacles it is usually a single dedicated outlet. That's where my head was.

 

[Wrench97]

He is talking about multiple receptacles, so 210.21(B)(3) does apply. This is not for a single receptacle. I said only 30 amp receptacles on a 30 amp circuit, I didn't say only a 30 amp receptacle on 30 amp circuit. What I said is accurate. If you remove that "s" from receptacles, it changes the whole meaning

Sorry the "S" didn't equate to me since under IRBC multiple outlets on a 30A or greater circuit isn't allowed. I know the IRBC isn't adopted everywhere but is widely followed. So when speaking of 30A receptacles it is usually a single dedicated outlet. That's where my head was.

How homes do either of you know of with 30a 110v receptacles?

 

[pattenp]

How homes do either of you know of with 30a 110v receptacles?

None since voltage is 120V.

 

[Terry D]

How homes do either of you know of with 30a 110v receptacles?

Its not odd to have a 30 amp 120 volt RV receptacle outside a house

 

[Wrench97]

None since voltage is 120V.

Its not odd to have a 30 amp 120 volt RV outlet outside a house

Neither one of you are any help to op more like trolls

 

[pattenp]

Its not odd to have a 30 amp 120 volt RV receptacle outside a house

Good one. I had brain freeze on that question.

 

[pattenp]

How homes do either of you know of with 30a 110v receptacles?

Wait a minute. Wasn't your question a troll question?

An "Internet troll" or "Forum Troll" is a person who posts outrageous message to bait people to answer. Trolls delight in sowing discord on the forums. A troll is someone who inspires flaming rhetoric, someone who is purposely provoking and pulling people into flaming discussion.

 

[Terry D]

Neither one of you are any help to op more like trolls

It seems to me that the op asked a electrical question about doing something and if it would be safe. We answered that question and told him that it would be a violation of the NEC. Even gave him options like changing the breaker if possible or adding a sub panel. You on the other hand suggested installing a "thin" breaker in post #9. The only panel that uses these, to my knowledge are GE. Also old FPE had them also. What if he doesn't have a GE. Tandem breakers are a different story, but the panel has to be listed to accept them