Deezler
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With 377 posts here... lemme ask you - how many garage builds have you seen with trusses set 16" O.C. ?
None, I bet. Awesome garage build, Glen. That 12/12 pitch is no joke. Lots of space inside the 2nd floor!
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With 377 posts here... lemme ask you - how many garage builds have you seen with trusses set 16" O.C. ?
None, I bet. Awesome garage build, Glen. That 12/12 pitch is no joke. Lots of space inside the 2nd floor!
jpcjguy
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Gotcha. That makes sense. What did you use for the attic floor? 3/4" T&G plywood?
Deezler,
Yes, lots of space upstairs. Too bad we don't have the funds to finish it now. We roughed in for future plumbing and had to have it inspected before pouring the floor. That triggered a visit from the health department who proceeded to design a 1,000 gal combo settling tank and pump out tank sunk directly outside the garage. It is designed to macerate and pump through a 2" pvc pipe into our existing septic tank. They even gave us a permit to do the work. All that money just to have a toilet in the corner of the garage!! I think I have a big red funnel somewhere.
On the other hand, I can understand their concern since we are on a river leading directly to the Chesapeake bay a short distance away. Don't think an occasional squirt of yellow stuff would hurt anything though.
Glen
Yes, lots of space upstairs. Too bad we don't have the funds to finish it now. We roughed in for future plumbing and had to have it inspected before pouring the floor. That triggered a visit from the health department who proceeded to design a 1,000 gal combo settling tank and pump out tank sunk directly outside the garage. It is designed to macerate and pump through a 2" pvc pipe into our existing septic tank. They even gave us a permit to do the work. All that money just to have a toilet in the corner of the garage!! I think I have a big red funnel somewhere.
On the other hand, I can understand their concern since we are on a river leading directly to the Chesapeake bay a short distance away. Don't think an occasional squirt of yellow stuff would hurt anything though.
Glen
We hit that wall that probably every owner hits when using a GC. Nobody showed up last week and absolutely nothing was done so we lost a complete week. I know the GC is busy on other projects but his biggest problem seems to be getting his subs on the job. The Windows could be installed as they have been delivered to the job and there is about two hours of work left for the framers so we could get a final framing inspection.
The wall mounted heat pump has also been delivered but needs to be installed and wired. After these things are completed, we will be ready for insulation and drywall. The garage doors are on order and should be ready to install in a week or so but that won't come until the drywall is finished. Also, the vinyl siding was ordered but is still two weeks out.
I have been patient and understanding but cannot afford to lose another week. Time to nudge the GC to get his crews back on the job.
I'll post again after there is a little more progress.
Glen
The wall mounted heat pump has also been delivered but needs to be installed and wired. After these things are completed, we will be ready for insulation and drywall. The garage doors are on order and should be ready to install in a week or so but that won't come until the drywall is finished. Also, the vinyl siding was ordered but is still two weeks out.
I have been patient and understanding but cannot afford to lose another week. Time to nudge the GC to get his crews back on the job.
I'll post again after there is a little more progress.
Glen
As suspected, the delay appears or be getting the subs back on the job. The exterior man door will be here on Wednesday with the framing crew back on Thursday to install the Windows and door to allow for an exterior and interior framing inspection on Friday. The rough electrical inspection, which must come after the framing, will be Friday afternoon or Monday. Then we can proceed with insulation and drywall. Apparently, the special order siding has arrived at the distributor's warehouse and is scheduled to be delivered this Friday. Now, if we can keep the subs on the job, things should move along completely.
Certainly no complaints about the subs so far as they work quickly and do very good work. While I have the experience and time and thought seriously about being my own GC, the project would have dragged on for months had I made that decision.
Hopefully, the end of this week and next will result in appreciably more work completed that I can report and include photos.
Glen
Certainly no complaints about the subs so far as they work quickly and do very good work. While I have the experience and time and thought seriously about being my own GC, the project would have dragged on for months had I made that decision.
Hopefully, the end of this week and next will result in appreciably more work completed that I can report and include photos.
Glen
Great looking garage! I have a place in Gloucester Point on Sarah's Creek just over the bridge (17). We are building a house in Midlothian (Chesterfield County) and it has taken almost a year and they finally put the cabinets in. I feel your pain LOL.
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Nice looking garage build.
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Manganos,
Interesting. Our primary residence is also in Chesterfield County, Stonehenge area, although we spend about 80 percent of our time in Gloucester where the garage is being built and where we keep our cars. While both working, we built the Gloucester house as a summer home but after retirement, we spend little time in Chesterfield. What's not to love about being on the Piankatank in Gloucester.
Glen
Interesting. Our primary residence is also in Chesterfield County, Stonehenge area, although we spend about 80 percent of our time in Gloucester where the garage is being built and where we keep our cars. While both working, we built the Gloucester house as a summer home but after retirement, we spend little time in Chesterfield. What's not to love about being on the Piankatank in Gloucester.
Glen
Scout3918
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looking good. good luck with rest and don't forget more pics the better lol.
Coming close to decision time on the floor. I originally wanted to do porcelain tile but had second thoughts. The total cost appears to be less than Racedeck or similar tiles, although the installation is far more time consuming. I have the saws and tools to lay the porcelain as well as the expertise (three years ago I laid 6,300 paver stones on my pool patio) and have done several tile bathrooms but getting 1,030 sq ft of porcelain tile off a truck, into the new garage and set in place means handling a lot of weight. It also will take valuable time away from the work needed to finish paint, get my lift, cabinets and other equipment in place.
Next, I researched the various types of interlocking tiles. As a personal preference and not to judge others who have used them, I really do not like the look and feel of the free flow tiles or the diamond and coin patterns. I do like the smooth surface interlocking types but they seem to be top of the line, the most expensive alternative and out of my budget. The more photos I see, the more I lean toward using a coating instead of tiles. Understanding the cost and potential disasters using epoxies unless it is done professionally, I am considering using Rust Bullet coating with flakes and doing the installation myself.
There are a number of threads on GJ about Rust Bullet and nobody seems to have had any major problems with it. However, there are far fewer installations posted than for interlocking tiles and I wonder why this is. Is it because it's a newer product or is it because of the prep work required? My floor is new and not troweled glassy smooth so no grinding or etching will be needed. Comments from those who have used Rust Bullet would be appreciated.
Glen
Next, I researched the various types of interlocking tiles. As a personal preference and not to judge others who have used them, I really do not like the look and feel of the free flow tiles or the diamond and coin patterns. I do like the smooth surface interlocking types but they seem to be top of the line, the most expensive alternative and out of my budget. The more photos I see, the more I lean toward using a coating instead of tiles. Understanding the cost and potential disasters using epoxies unless it is done professionally, I am considering using Rust Bullet coating with flakes and doing the installation myself.
There are a number of threads on GJ about Rust Bullet and nobody seems to have had any major problems with it. However, there are far fewer installations posted than for interlocking tiles and I wonder why this is. Is it because it's a newer product or is it because of the prep work required? My floor is new and not troweled glassy smooth so no grinding or etching will be needed. Comments from those who have used Rust Bullet would be appreciated.
Glen
The Windows and man door were installed this week and the framing was approved yesterday.
Also, the wall mounted heat pump was installed.
The rough electric inspection is scheduled for Monday followed by the insulation so we are still making progress. We are expecting rain for much of next week so likely there won't be much accomplished. The garage doors are not on yet so the insulation guys may not show up if we get heavy rain.
Glen
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Also, the wall mounted heat pump was installed.
The rough electric inspection is scheduled for Monday followed by the insulation so we are still making progress. We are expecting rain for much of next week so likely there won't be much accomplished. The garage doors are not on yet so the insulation guys may not show up if we get heavy rain.
Glen
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Sunbimmer
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You're getting there Glen, looking great 
rburke65
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Yes sir...really nice. You will love you upper space with the attic truss.
SiGmA_X
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I would do the porcelain tile. I don't think anything else comes close to as nice, save *maybe* a polished concrete.
No new photos today but still making progress. Last Friday the GC finished up some minor interior work and we got our framing inspection in the afternoon. Yesterday, the electrician wired the 3 ton HVAC unit that I supplied but informed me the low voltage wiring and initial startup is the responsibility of the HVAC contractor that I don't have because it's a single package unit. So, today I'm off to HD to pick up some 18-8 thermostat wire and wire it myself. No big deal but a surprise I should have realized had I thought about it.
The electrical inspector came in the afternoon and passed the rough electrical which gives Dominion Virginia Power the go-ahead to install the supply from the nearby transformer to the garage meter base. The electrician tells me they are not efficient in processing paper work and scheduling installations so it might be a few weeks before we get power to the building.
While the rest of the northeast is in blizzard conditions today, we were spared with only heavy rain last night and overcast cold weather today. To my surprise, the insulation installers showed up this morning and will be working today and, hopefully, finishing up tomorrow.
For anyone building a garage or any structure, I strongly urge you to take extensive photos of your interior framing before the insulation and Sheetrock goes in. These will be invaluable whenever you want to make future changes or need to know where wires and blocking are located. And make sure you print actual photos you can file with your build paperwork since digital cameras sometimes get lost or damaged with the subsequent loss of your valuable photos.
Hopefully, start of drywall the end of this week and exterior siding if we are lucky.
Glen
The electrical inspector came in the afternoon and passed the rough electrical which gives Dominion Virginia Power the go-ahead to install the supply from the nearby transformer to the garage meter base. The electrician tells me they are not efficient in processing paper work and scheduling installations so it might be a few weeks before we get power to the building.
While the rest of the northeast is in blizzard conditions today, we were spared with only heavy rain last night and overcast cold weather today. To my surprise, the insulation installers showed up this morning and will be working today and, hopefully, finishing up tomorrow.
For anyone building a garage or any structure, I strongly urge you to take extensive photos of your interior framing before the insulation and Sheetrock goes in. These will be invaluable whenever you want to make future changes or need to know where wires and blocking are located. And make sure you print actual photos you can file with your build paperwork since digital cameras sometimes get lost or damaged with the subsequent loss of your valuable photos.
Hopefully, start of drywall the end of this week and exterior siding if we are lucky.
Glen
Insulation finished today! Drywall scheduled to be delivered tomorrow with work hanging sheetrock starting on Friday. GC will have the garage doors set up for delivery near the end of next week.
The GC advised the vinyl siding was going to be delivered last Friday but apparently the shipment has yet to arrive at the distributor's warehouse or the siding contractor is finishing up another job before starting ours. At any rate and if the weather holds, we should have drywall, doors and siding complete within the next two weeks or so. I expect it will be longer than that before the power company gets here to hook up to the building. Weather has been in the low to mid 30's but at least we escaped the snow that hit a little north of us.
Glen
The GC advised the vinyl siding was going to be delivered last Friday but apparently the shipment has yet to arrive at the distributor's warehouse or the siding contractor is finishing up another job before starting ours. At any rate and if the weather holds, we should have drywall, doors and siding complete within the next two weeks or so. I expect it will be longer than that before the power company gets here to hook up to the building. Weather has been in the low to mid 30's but at least we escaped the snow that hit a little north of us.
Glen
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Here's a photo of the insulation baffles installed at the eaves and up the first three ft of the roof. They are flexible plastic corrugated sheets with a stapling tab which attaches to the top plate, then goes vertically up and is then stapled to the slant of the roof. This provides a stop for the insulation so it does not go into the soffit space. Also, it protects the **** end of the batt from wind and moisture which would eventually degrade the insulation.
We are on a river with the front of the garage facing northwest where the heavy wind comes from. With 2 ft eaves and perforated vinyl soffits, the insulation would likely get wet from wind driven rain hitting directly at the front wall and going up into the soffit. Today, wind is steady and gusting to 40 mph with white caps on the river so the baffles will keep the insulation dry.
We originally specified solid wood blocking at the eaves with flat corrugated baffles but gave the GC a choice of wood or these plastic ones which are cheaper and less labor intensive. I had never seen these installed before and am adding a photo for anyone interested. The insulation contractor had never installed these either. After inspection of their finished work, they had to tear out about half of them and reinstall because they were installed upside down, blocking all air flow from the soffit.
Glen
We are on a river with the front of the garage facing northwest where the heavy wind comes from. With 2 ft eaves and perforated vinyl soffits, the insulation would likely get wet from wind driven rain hitting directly at the front wall and going up into the soffit. Today, wind is steady and gusting to 40 mph with white caps on the river so the baffles will keep the insulation dry.
We originally specified solid wood blocking at the eaves with flat corrugated baffles but gave the GC a choice of wood or these plastic ones which are cheaper and less labor intensive. I had never seen these installed before and am adding a photo for anyone interested. The insulation contractor had never installed these either. After inspection of their finished work, they had to tear out about half of them and reinstall because they were installed upside down, blocking all air flow from the soffit.
Glen
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Drywall delivered yesterday afternoon. The unloading was done very efficiently with the truck mounted crane and three men. The installation of the sheet rock was to have started today but the insulation inspector rejected the R30 batts under the attic floor, saying they need to be R38 since the attic is not being finished at this time. Apparently, if the future attic apartment was finished now, then R30 would have been fine. As it turned out, the installers had already installed R38 under some of the attic so they didn't have to replace too much.
So, since we now can't get the inspector back until Monday, the drywallers can't start until Tuesday when they originally wanted to begin today, (Friday) and work throughout the weekend. We hope they won't be off on another job because of the delay. The GC has been great in communicating these minor setbacks so we are not left wondering who will show up and when.
Glen
So, since we now can't get the inspector back until Monday, the drywallers can't start until Tuesday when they originally wanted to begin today, (Friday) and work throughout the weekend. We hope they won't be off on another job because of the delay. The GC has been great in communicating these minor setbacks so we are not left wondering who will show up and when.
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Well, the insulation passed inspection on Monday but the drywall hangers were on another job and could not start until today, Wednesday. They finished up their other job in the morning and arrived at our job early afternoon. There were three guys, two on the wheeled scaffold and the lead man on the floor doing the cut work. It's amazing how quick they work with the scaffold guys shouting dimensions and the floor guy measuring and cutting out holes for receptacles and ceiling light wiring. All the holes fit perfectly and there were no errors. It's a pleasure watching pros work. By 5:00 pm, they had the ceiling completed and will be back tomorrow to work on the walls. The stairwell is very high with many cuts so they will likely extend into Friday before the hanging is complete. Monday they should have the tape and mud team here and that will take several days. It has been cold here with temp tonight expected in the mid 20's so it's probably good the mud doesn't go on til early next week when we expect more mild weather.
Also, the siding was delivered today and the GC says they will be here to start the installation tomorrow. With the drywall and siding guys here together there will be a lot of hammering......music to my ears.
Glen
Also, the siding was delivered today and the GC says they will be here to start the installation tomorrow. With the drywall and siding guys here together there will be a lot of hammering......music to my ears.
Glen
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Looking good in there, the finish line is getting closer!
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I just found your post tonight , awesome build and thanks for the blow by blow details , as I hope to do the same next year .
As for the hail storm ( mini tornado ? ) I was out on the gun club range in Wakefield , Va.
As for the hail storm ( mini tornado ? ) I was out on the gun club range in Wakefield , Va.
The drywall hangers finished today and man, are they quick. I expected they wouldn't get to the stairwell until tomorrow but they were done by 3:00 pm today. Three guys worked a total of 10 hours and finished hanging rock in the entire garage.....amazing.
The HVAC supply opening requires a non-combustible sleeve so the hot air from the 10kw strip heater won't cause a fire. I was going to have the drywall guys just cover over the two openings so I could attack that project later. However, I decided it would be far easier if the openings were ready for the drywall guys so they could cut the holes. I tried Home Depot and Lowes for non-combustible insulation but everything they had was not fire retardant. Having been in the HVAC business years ago, I don't know why I didn't think about using fiberglass duct board. A call to my friendly HVAC installation/service company turned up a sheet of 1", just what I needed.
Back to the job yesterday with the duct board and, armed with the wife's bread knife, took less than an hour to get the openings lined and just in time for the drywall guys to cover it and cut out the holes this morning.
The lead for the taping/mud crew stopped by and said he would start tomorrow and might work on Saturday. I didn't expect them to be here until Monday. The siding contractor also came today to make sure all his required material was delivered and said he would start tomorrow afternoon. He must be finishing up another job in the morning so we may not see any meaningful work done until Monday. The doors should also be installed sometime next week. Things are progressing nicely.
The HVAC supply opening requires a non-combustible sleeve so the hot air from the 10kw strip heater won't cause a fire. I was going to have the drywall guys just cover over the two openings so I could attack that project later. However, I decided it would be far easier if the openings were ready for the drywall guys so they could cut the holes. I tried Home Depot and Lowes for non-combustible insulation but everything they had was not fire retardant. Having been in the HVAC business years ago, I don't know why I didn't think about using fiberglass duct board. A call to my friendly HVAC installation/service company turned up a sheet of 1", just what I needed.
Back to the job yesterday with the duct board and, armed with the wife's bread knife, took less than an hour to get the openings lined and just in time for the drywall guys to cover it and cut out the holes this morning.
The lead for the taping/mud crew stopped by and said he would start tomorrow and might work on Saturday. I didn't expect them to be here until Monday. The siding contractor also came today to make sure all his required material was delivered and said he would start tomorrow afternoon. He must be finishing up another job in the morning so we may not see any meaningful work done until Monday. The doors should also be installed sometime next week. Things are progressing nicely.
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Bib Overalls
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Nicely executed project. Looking forward to seeing how you finish it out.
For anyone building a garage, house or any other construction, this tool is a must to have on the job. It is a wheeled magnet that, when rolled around, picks up all the nails, screws and misc. metal items dropped by the workers. It is especially useful for my build because of space limitations, we need to park vehicles near the new garage. Also, to get my yard tractor from the shed to the lawn area, I have to drive it close to the garage on two sides.
Harbor Freight has one for around $40.00. One would also be useful for finding small dropped nuts, bolts etc when I start working on our cars.
Glen
Harbor Freight has one for around $40.00. One would also be useful for finding small dropped nuts, bolts etc when I start working on our cars.
Glen
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madoc1
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good looking building and beautiful area. can you see the river from your house?
jim
jim
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Wow, that's a lot of dropped nails & screws! Looks like it must be a pretty strong magnet too, I may have to get one of those myself.
C F
Yes, it's a strong magnet and what you see in the photo is only a single run through the garage floor after the drywall guys got done. I loaded it up several times rolling it around the outside after the framers finished and collected more when the roofers left.
While this one belongs to the GC, I plan on getting one because I'll be laying down a coating on the floor with flakes. Many guys object to flakes because it's hard to find small parts dropped on the floor. This tool will make that easy-peasy except for the stainless parts.
Glen
Yes, it's a strong magnet and what you see in the photo is only a single run through the garage floor after the drywall guys got done. I loaded it up several times rolling it around the outside after the framers finished and collected more when the roofers left.
While this one belongs to the GC, I plan on getting one because I'll be laying down a coating on the floor with flakes. Many guys object to flakes because it's hard to find small parts dropped on the floor. This tool will make that easy-peasy except for the stainless parts.
Glen
MacTexas
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I started reading this tread today. Your introduction brought to mind a gentleman that moved into our neighborhood 3 years ago. I heard the house had sold and a 88 year old couple had bought the house. We have a retiree breakfast in the neighborhood every Wednesday and he attended right after he moved in. He talked about his workshop at his previous house and decided to build a workshop at his new house. He built a 16' by 32' workshop at the end of his driveway. When I say he built he built. He had a slab poured and had a framing crew frame the building. He proceeded to enclose the frame and since the HOA has a brick or rock rule he hired the rock crew to rock the front of the building that is seen from the street. He used hardi board on the rest of the building that he installed by himself. The is a long explaination to you question why at 77 would anyone build a garage.
I am inpressed with your garage and look forward to follow it to the finish.
By the way my neighbor is now 91 and does some beautiful wood work in his shop.
I am inpressed with your garage and look forward to follow it to the finish.
By the way my neighbor is now 91 and does some beautiful wood work in his shop.
madoc1
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although i don't like cold your place is heaven.
i am into wooden boats and read a lot about the wonderful ones around the bay, both recreational and working.jim
MacTexas,
Thanks for the encouragement. As I said before, I expect this garage and the opportunity to work on my antique cars will add many years to my life.
I read your build thread but unfortunately, could not get any of the photos to load. Sounds like a nice garage.
They started the vinyl siding Friday and it matches the house very closely. The tape and mud crew is supposed to start today but I am out of town and will not be back until tomorrow afternoon to see the progress. Unfortunately, we don't have the electric meter installed yet so will be unable to use the new HVAC unit to heat the space to dry out the drywall mud. The crew has a portable heater so that's good and the forecast for the week is more mild weather so we should not have a problem.
Glen
Thanks for the encouragement. As I said before, I expect this garage and the opportunity to work on my antique cars will add many years to my life.
I read your build thread but unfortunately, could not get any of the photos to load. Sounds like a nice garage.
They started the vinyl siding Friday and it matches the house very closely. The tape and mud crew is supposed to start today but I am out of town and will not be back until tomorrow afternoon to see the progress. Unfortunately, we don't have the electric meter installed yet so will be unable to use the new HVAC unit to heat the space to dry out the drywall mud. The crew has a portable heater so that's good and the forecast for the week is more mild weather so we should not have a problem.
Glen
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MacTexas
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I used image shack to host my photos and they changed their terms of service and quit hosting. There is a picture of my garage in my avitar.
You mention antique cars, what cars do you have? I have a 1934 Ford and a 1948 Desoto but they are not restored they have been modernized with V8 engines and air conditioning.
You mention antique cars, what cars do you have? I have a 1934 Ford and a 1948 Desoto but they are not restored they have been modernized with V8 engines and air conditioning.
MacTexas,
Aaah, the '34. My favorite. Most guys like the '32 shell but the '34 grille is a work of art. What model do you have?......I am partial to the sedans. With V8s in the Ford and Desoto but unrestored, you have wolves in sheep clothing.
I have an original restored '31 Chrysler sedan, an older restoration '31 Model A roadster which my wife drives, a low mileage '88 Fiero GT and a 1936 Auburn Boattail speedster replica. Thus the reason for the new garage.
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Aaah, the '34. My favorite. Most guys like the '32 shell but the '34 grille is a work of art. What model do you have?......I am partial to the sedans. With V8s in the Ford and Desoto but unrestored, you have wolves in sheep clothing.
I have an original restored '31 Chrysler sedan, an older restoration '31 Model A roadster which my wife drives, a low mileage '88 Fiero GT and a 1936 Auburn Boattail speedster replica. Thus the reason for the new garage.
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MacTexas
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I have a soft spot in my heart for Model A's. This is the car I drove to High School.
File0122 by mactexas, on Flickr
The 34 is a Tudor Sedan that I have had since 1971.
July 2913 049 by mactexas, on Flickr
I bought the 48 because I wanted a car that was made the same year I was born.
Desoto Resize by mactexas, on Flickr
You have some very nice cars that belong in a nice looking garage.
File0122 by mactexas, on FlickrThe 34 is a Tudor Sedan that I have had since 1971.
July 2913 049 by mactexas, on FlickrI bought the 48 because I wanted a car that was made the same year I was born.
Desoto Resize by mactexas, on FlickrYou have some very nice cars that belong in a nice looking garage.
Interesting, I also drove a Model A coupe every day to high school. My wife and I started dating 60 years ago in that car and now she has one of her own. ( I get to fix and maintain it ).
When you said your cars were unrestored, I pictured untouched survivors. Wrong! Those cars are really nice.
Glen
When you said your cars were unrestored, I pictured untouched survivors. Wrong! Those cars are really nice.
Glen
Both the siding and the tape/mud crews were on the job yesterday and today and made nice progress. They should be done by the end of the week so the front apron can be poured and the garage doors installed.
I have included spray painting prime on the walls and ceiling and spraying a final coat of ceiling white in the contract. We have 18) 8 ft T8's going on the 13 ft ceiling and I really don't want to paint around them cutting in with a brush and following up with a roller.
The two left hand bays are wired for ceiling fans with none on the right because the lift goes in that bay. I ordered one 84" six blade fan for the left bay but am waiting on ordering another for the center bay until we get the lift installed. The single fan on one end might be sufficient to circulate the air throughout the garage so I'll wait to get the second one after we see how the single one works. Seems like some like a ceiling fan to give a nice cooling breeze but that is not my objective. I want the fan to prevent stratification of the air and, particularly, get the hot air down off the ceiling in the winter heating season.
Glen
I have included spray painting prime on the walls and ceiling and spraying a final coat of ceiling white in the contract. We have 18) 8 ft T8's going on the 13 ft ceiling and I really don't want to paint around them cutting in with a brush and following up with a roller.
The two left hand bays are wired for ceiling fans with none on the right because the lift goes in that bay. I ordered one 84" six blade fan for the left bay but am waiting on ordering another for the center bay until we get the lift installed. The single fan on one end might be sufficient to circulate the air throughout the garage so I'll wait to get the second one after we see how the single one works. Seems like some like a ceiling fan to give a nice cooling breeze but that is not my objective. I want the fan to prevent stratification of the air and, particularly, get the hot air down off the ceiling in the winter heating season.
Glen
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Today was a slow day.....siding guys didn't show up although some of their tools are still here. With the project nearing completion, I need to learn to be patient rather than ranting to the GC about subs not showing up. Don't want to end the build on a sour note with a GC who has been very good to work with and who is doing a quality job.
The tape/mud guys did stop by but couldn't do any work because the mud they applied yesterday is not dry yet. They fired up their kerosene heater and fan to circulate warm air around the garage and we are monitoring the heater tonight, turning it off before we go to bed for safety reasons. They said they would be back for the final skim coat tomorrow and would finish up Monday latest.
Just thought I would post some photos of my existing 21 x 24 garage to show why I'm so anxious to get the new build finished. I try to keep it neat but it is not only my work area but storage for household gotta-haves. It is also home for two refrigerators, an 80 gal water heater, two well tanks and a water softener setup.
The tape/mud guys did stop by but couldn't do any work because the mud they applied yesterday is not dry yet. They fired up their kerosene heater and fan to circulate warm air around the garage and we are monitoring the heater tonight, turning it off before we go to bed for safety reasons. They said they would be back for the final skim coat tomorrow and would finish up Monday latest.
Just thought I would post some photos of my existing 21 x 24 garage to show why I'm so anxious to get the new build finished. I try to keep it neat but it is not only my work area but storage for household gotta-haves. It is also home for two refrigerators, an 80 gal water heater, two well tanks and a water softener setup.
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It does look like you're cramped in your existing garage! Your new one is going to give you tons of elbow room, compared to what you've had. Looking forward to your continued updates.
Nearing completion on the garage, I can't put off a decision on a lift any longer, although I have been researching and reading GJ comments for some time.
Understanding the difference in use between a two post and a four post lift, I'm going with a four post for storage reasons and the ease of driving on the ramps. Plus, old guys with occasional bouts of vertigo don't like to crawl under cars to position two post lift arms.
Reading the many posts on lifts, there seems to be a common theme in that everybody likes the lift they bought and use. Don't recall reading any comments from guys who hate the one they have and wish they bought another brand except for some input regarding errors in size selection which has nothing to do with any particular manufacturer.
So, my selection is based on a lift that meets the needs of the cars I will be working on plus input from someone who has the same lift now and whom I can trust for an unbiased opinion. At this point, I am leaning toward an Eagle MS8000 XLT which has extra lift height to accommodate my tall antique cars and Yukon and allows me to easily walk underneath. Plus, I will add the rolling jack for ease in doing wheel work.
I would appreciate comments from anyone who has this lift and the service they get or do not get from Eagle.
Glen
Understanding the difference in use between a two post and a four post lift, I'm going with a four post for storage reasons and the ease of driving on the ramps. Plus, old guys with occasional bouts of vertigo don't like to crawl under cars to position two post lift arms.
Reading the many posts on lifts, there seems to be a common theme in that everybody likes the lift they bought and use. Don't recall reading any comments from guys who hate the one they have and wish they bought another brand except for some input regarding errors in size selection which has nothing to do with any particular manufacturer.
So, my selection is based on a lift that meets the needs of the cars I will be working on plus input from someone who has the same lift now and whom I can trust for an unbiased opinion. At this point, I am leaning toward an Eagle MS8000 XLT which has extra lift height to accommodate my tall antique cars and Yukon and allows me to easily walk underneath. Plus, I will add the rolling jack for ease in doing wheel work.
I would appreciate comments from anyone who has this lift and the service they get or do not get from Eagle.
Glen