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Good point.
30x32 Shop with Lean-to
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Decided to go with 100amp sub panel. 60 would probably be enough for anything I do, but we are working off of the Tim Taylor school of thought. Really, for the price difference it was a pretty easy decision.
Rain is in the forecast through Saturday. I plan to rent a trencher early next week and will cut a trench for the electrical and also another one for a French drain I am going to install at the end of the paved driveway.
Dad helped me out earlier this week by dropping off the tractor. I spent after work yesterday until dark smoothing out ruts with the box blade, spreading the leftovers from the stump grinder and cutting a few inches off the surface where more gravel will go to complete the drive. Also did some work to redirect water runoff away from the new gravel drive. That is something I have to address where the gravel drive connects to the road. Because of the slope, I need water that drains beside the road to flow across the driveway. I am thinking I will use concrete to make a gutter across the driveway rather than putting a culvert under the drive.
Rain is in the forecast through Saturday. I plan to rent a trencher early next week and will cut a trench for the electrical and also another one for a French drain I am going to install at the end of the paved driveway.
Dad helped me out earlier this week by dropping off the tractor. I spent after work yesterday until dark smoothing out ruts with the box blade, spreading the leftovers from the stump grinder and cutting a few inches off the surface where more gravel will go to complete the drive. Also did some work to redirect water runoff away from the new gravel drive. That is something I have to address where the gravel drive connects to the road. Because of the slope, I need water that drains beside the road to flow across the driveway. I am thinking I will use concrete to make a gutter across the driveway rather than putting a culvert under the drive.
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Awesome!!
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Dad helped me out big again this week. He has a local guy that has done work for him in the past using a mini excavator. His price quoted over the phone was just $10 more than a 4hr rental on a trencher. So Dad set everything up and supervised while I was at work. He trenched for the electrical, drainage from the house downspout and French drain to the other side of the shop and the culvert at the new drive.
With the amount of roots he had to go through, and hitting the remains of one of the stumps I had ground, I would never have gotten this done with just a trencher in 4 hours.
With the amount of roots he had to go through, and hitting the remains of one of the stumps I had ground, I would never have gotten this done with just a trencher in 4 hours.
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My electrician started work last night. I helped where I could. We ran the main line into the attic and got it to the shop, but haven't gotten it inside yet. We ran through the attic, down the interior of the attached garage, and then out and into the trench. Glued all of the conduit In the trench together after dark so no pics of that. This is 1 gauge aluminum for the 100 amp panel.
I cant get this pic to rotate properly on here but this is the conduit running up the wall inside the attached garage to the attic. The smaller conduit is for CAT5 and coax.
Here is the main line stretched out in the trench before we put it in the conduit.
I cant get this pic to rotate properly on here but this is the conduit running up the wall inside the attached garage to the attic. The smaller conduit is for CAT5 and coax.
Here is the main line stretched out in the trench before we put it in the conduit.
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Mostly finished running the drain line last night. Need to get another length of the corrugated drain pipe to finish the run. I used PVC sewer pipe under the driveway and then switched to the corrugated on the other side. Laid all of it in gravel to give it a good base.
Breaker box was installed in the garage. Wire was ran to it and the conduit is finished. Will finish the second piece of conduit tomorrow and be ready to close the trenches up.
Hopefully, we can finish the panel and get the power hooked up on the other end tonight.
Breaker box was installed in the garage. Wire was ran to it and the conduit is finished. Will finish the second piece of conduit tomorrow and be ready to close the trenches up.
Hopefully, we can finish the panel and get the power hooked up on the other end tonight.
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It was a busy weekend. Friday the electrician finished the sub panel, ran the 220 outlet, one set of 110 and another 110 switched to the ceiling for me to install the light. One light is up for now. I am still working on the layout for the lights so this one may be in a temporary location.
Saturday I finished the French Drain and we poured the culvert at the road. Then I cleaned the floor in the garage, used the blower to get most things out, swept and then mopped. Then I applied etch for the sealer. Did this twice as per the directions. Mopped again with a cleaner.
By this time, my brother in law arrived with 3 boxes of Cat5. We ran three lines of Cat5 plus a RG11 Coax. Doing it all in one pull was awesome thanks to the multiple spools. Still took us till 11:30 that night to get done. One of the Cat5 will be for the wifi in the shop, the other two will be for hard wire points for the laptop in the office and at the workbench. I'll also have them available for a security setup in the future.
Sunday I mopped the floor with clean water twice to make sure there was no cleaner residue left. Then I applied the sealer to the floor. It said a second coat could be applied in 2 hours so I added a second coat using up the last half gallon I had. I finished that at about 8pm so it was finally time to call it a day.
Saturday I finished the French Drain and we poured the culvert at the road. Then I cleaned the floor in the garage, used the blower to get most things out, swept and then mopped. Then I applied etch for the sealer. Did this twice as per the directions. Mopped again with a cleaner.
By this time, my brother in law arrived with 3 boxes of Cat5. We ran three lines of Cat5 plus a RG11 Coax. Doing it all in one pull was awesome thanks to the multiple spools. Still took us till 11:30 that night to get done. One of the Cat5 will be for the wifi in the shop, the other two will be for hard wire points for the laptop in the office and at the workbench. I'll also have them available for a security setup in the future.
Sunday I mopped the floor with clean water twice to make sure there was no cleaner residue left. Then I applied the sealer to the floor. It said a second coat could be applied in 2 hours so I added a second coat using up the last half gallon I had. I finished that at about 8pm so it was finally time to call it a day.
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Here is the panel.
We have light!
Here is the culvert. It is about 30ft long, 18 inches wide total. The center is about 4" thick concrete with the outside edges about 6 to 6.5 inches. I poured the base, then I laid two 2x4's in the center as I poured the rest of it and then lifted them out and sloped the sides.
And here is the French drain. I got this from my brother in law as well. He had a stash of them behind his shop not being used. Its at the end of current drive at the low point where water drains. We dug this spot out, back filled with gravel and dry concrete mix, set the drain and then filled around it with gravel and dry mix to hold it in place, then added the rest of the concrete. The rest will be backfilled with gravel. After it set, I used concrete caulk to seal the gap between the drain and the concrete. This and the downspout go into 120feet of drain line that ends behind the shop.
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Here is the culvert. It is about 30ft long, 18 inches wide total. The center is about 4" thick concrete with the outside edges about 6 to 6.5 inches. I poured the base, then I laid two 2x4's in the center as I poured the rest of it and then lifted them out and sloped the sides.
And here is the French drain. I got this from my brother in law as well. He had a stash of them behind his shop not being used. Its at the end of current drive at the low point where water drains. We dug this spot out, back filled with gravel and dry concrete mix, set the drain and then filled around it with gravel and dry mix to hold it in place, then added the rest of the concrete. The rest will be backfilled with gravel. After it set, I used concrete caulk to seal the gap between the drain and the concrete. This and the downspout go into 120feet of drain line that ends behind the shop.
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Started to fill all of the trenches, but the tractor wouldn't crank. Still trying to run that issue down. I have had trouble with the ignition switch recently so I'm going to go ahead and replace it. If that doesn't solve the problem I'll look further.
While I was working, the wife took all of the kids (we had a bunch of cousins over) my truck to the ball field since it is the largest cab we have. Came back and told me the AC wasn't working. Looks like a compressor issue on that. Yay. Its going In the shop this weekend for maintenance (after 72+ hours dry time for the sealer!) so I'll be able to look at it better then when other pieces are disassembled and I have more room to work.
While I was working, the wife took all of the kids (we had a bunch of cousins over) my truck to the ball field since it is the largest cab we have. Came back and told me the AC wasn't working. Looks like a compressor issue on that. Yay. Its going In the shop this weekend for maintenance (after 72+ hours dry time for the sealer!) so I'll be able to look at it better then when other pieces are disassembled and I have more room to work.
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The timing hit just right for me. This is the time of year I typically do home projects. Its after hunting season, but before lake season. Usually I wouldn't be able to get so much done in the evenings due to ball games and karate practice with my son, but he had surgery a few weeks ago that has put all of those activities on hold for now. I actually get home before dark and get to stay till bedtime.
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Got about an hour of shovel work in last night..... really wish this tractor was fixed.
BIL stopped by with ends and connectors for the Cat5 so we did that and configured a router I had into an access point. Its in the house garage and gets a good wireless signal to the back patio area now. The Cat5 to the shop is plugged into here as well and will get another access point out there. We also added a switch to the workbench in the house garage for a wired hookup there.
BIL stopped by with ends and connectors for the Cat5 so we did that and configured a router I had into an access point. Its in the house garage and gets a good wireless signal to the back patio area now. The Cat5 to the shop is plugged into here as well and will get another access point out there. We also added a switch to the workbench in the house garage for a wired hookup there.
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I thought I was going to take a break from shoveling today. Rain was in the forcast for this afternoon so I planned to clean up in the garage some. Dad called about the time i pulled in the driveway. His dog had to be put down. He is old and eaten up with cancer. Started to cough up blood this afternoon so we went ahead and put him down. Dug the hole for his grave next to where we have buried horses the last few years.
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First project! Doesn't the Superduty look happy? Weekends worth of work doing some upgrades and maintenance . I rigged some temp lighting. Added some folding table workbenches, and put the Lowes Black Friday tool box to use.
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I got plenty of work done IN the shop this weekend rather than TO the shop. My truck is still half apart, but the hard work is done. I just have ot reinstall the intake, and re build and install the turbo. Then it will be time ot crank it over and trouble shoot the AC compressor. I'll pull the radiator and fan to make the AC compressor removal / repair easier and replace the water pump at the same time.
As for TO the shop, I hooked up the wireless access point so I can easily stream all of the How To videos I have needed to find where they hide all of the bolts on this truck.
As for TO the shop, I hooked up the wireless access point so I can easily stream all of the How To videos I have needed to find where they hide all of the bolts on this truck.
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Man, I'm gearing up to do a lot of the same work on my 6.0 PSD. Nice work!
Good call on pulling cat5 out there. You should have only needed one wire to the shop, that could then be split out with a switch to your Wireless AP and drops for the laptop. I would keep the other two as spares in case the single line has issues. Of course you also did conduit so pulling a new line wouldn't be hard either.
The garage is looking great. That is the exact size I am planning to build. I'm planning to stick frame on a stem wall though. What was the rough cost on your slab?
The garage is looking great. That is the exact size I am planning to build. I'm planning to stick frame on a stem wall though. What was the rough cost on your slab?
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I finished the STC, Stand Pipes and the HPOP filter so far. I used the IPR Stainless filter screen and yes the factory one was torn. Luckily the torn sections were still attached. I also swapped the EGR up pipe - also IPR and will be adding their Gen2 EGR delete.
New front pads are on the way and I have an Alliant waterpump with a metal impellar to install once I trouble shoot the AC compressor. Then...... ECM goes off for a reprogram to take advantage of the new goodies. Oh, and the turbo is getting a rebuild with KCturbo parts.
Hardest part of everything is trying to figure out how to get to all the bolts and where they all are.
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That was the BIL's call on the three runs. We had the cable, so it didn't cost any more or take any longer to do the three. I honestly don't know what he has planned.
The AP has 3 more ports to run additional if needed too. Of the three lines already ran, we sized them to run 1 to the AP, one to the future office, and one to the workbench on the far side. I'm not sure off the top of my head. The builder I ended up using didn't give a line item quote. He quoted a total price for the job off of my specs.
I'll see if I still have quotes from the others with it broken out.
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And on the speed test I was getting over 50Mbps download speeds on wireless at the far end of the shop last night.
That was the BIL's call on the three runs. We had the cable, so it didn't cost any more or take any longer to do the three. I honestly don't know what he has planned.
I'm not sure off the top of my head. The builder I ended up using didn't give a line item quote. He quoted a total price for the job off of my specs.
I'll see if I still have quotes from the others with it broken out.
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And on the speed test I was getting over 50Mbps download speeds on wireless at the far end of the shop last night.
Well cat5 is pretty cheap and if he had multiple boxes it isn't a big deal to pull them all in one shot. I just figured in my head one line out to the AP would be all you need. From there it's just short drops to the bench and office. But if the cable is free, no worries
. 50Mbps is pretty much all you need for youtube and most anything else you would do in shop. Sounds like your BIL is getting it all right for you.And no problem on the slab price. Some builders just wrap it all in one grand total.
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Its alive! After enough cranking that I was starting to get just a little bit worried.... she fired up and sounded perfect. (Oil valley had to refill due to the work I did - the injectors work off of oil pressure in this truck) Looked it over good and didn't see any leaks or obvious problems.
Now I have to pull the ECM back out to send off and install the new brake pads. I haven't done the water pump yet either. Looks like that's a little more involved than I thought it was going to be so I decided to make sure all was good with the other mods first.
Oh... and might as well do a stereo install while I'm at it.
Now I have to pull the ECM back out to send off and install the new brake pads. I haven't done the water pump yet either. Looks like that's a little more involved than I thought it was going to be so I decided to make sure all was good with the other mods first.
Oh... and might as well do a stereo install while I'm at it.
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ECM came back from PHP. I installed, buttoned the wheel wells back up and took her for a drive. Took a couple cranks to start the first time. Ran a little rough at first, black smoke upon acceleration. Drove better as it went. It is still running a little rough at about 1500rpm to about 2500 upon acceleration. All temps looked good. Restart was very quick after shutting it off for about 10 minutes.
I hooked up my code scanner and it is showing two codes for the #8 injector. I took the FICM back out so I could get to #8 and it is sitting there loose. Reinstalled, gave it a tug and it popped right back off. Looks like I bent the retaining clip, probably trying to remove it. A little bit of work with the needle nose and its nice and tight now.
On to the stereo install. Headunit is in - it is a 6 inch touch screen. I have all of the RCA's and power ran for the amp. RCA mostly ran for the backup camera, just need to add the power wire for the camera and install the amp.
Then I can tackle the AC compressor not turning on. Code reader says AC Clutch Relay is suspect.
I hooked up my code scanner and it is showing two codes for the #8 injector. I took the FICM back out so I could get to #8 and it is sitting there loose. Reinstalled, gave it a tug and it popped right back off. Looks like I bent the retaining clip, probably trying to remove it. A little bit of work with the needle nose and its nice and tight now.
On to the stereo install. Headunit is in - it is a 6 inch touch screen. I have all of the RCA's and power ran for the amp. RCA mostly ran for the backup camera, just need to add the power wire for the camera and install the amp.
Then I can tackle the AC compressor not turning on. Code reader says AC Clutch Relay is suspect.
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Here is the site April 1st, 2016 after an F2 came through.
Very nice progress. Seems like you got very far in the last two months. Did your homeowner's insurance cover the tree removal, and partial prep for the new shop footprint? Did the F2 cause any other damage, or was the tree damage the worst of it?
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Insurance paid a small $ amount for removal from real property - meaning they would cut it off of the house fence or driveway. They did not pay for removal of any other part of the tree. They paid zero on prep work or to fix the yard where we had / have root balls or stump holes.
I was lucky that our property was mostly large high dollar value timber and it was actually enough to get a timber buyer in there interested in saving it. I let them take all down and damaged trees. The only real money for him was in the oaks, some in hickory and he took the pines that were down as well to get them out of my way. They were big enough for lumber as well, but not enough for a load.
I was lucky that our property was mostly large high dollar value timber and it was actually enough to get a timber buyer in there interested in saving it. I let them take all down and damaged trees. The only real money for him was in the oaks, some in hickory and he took the pines that were down as well to get them out of my way. They were big enough for lumber as well, but not enough for a load.
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I finished up all of the work on the truck last night except for the AC. That has me vexed. I don't have any experience with AC systems, but I have gone through all of the trouble shooting steps and come up with nothing.
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Nice garage - thanks for posting. !hat's the pitch of the roof and what size is the main door? I'm in early planning stages for my build and the size is similar.
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4/12 pitch on the garage and then 1/12 on the lean to. The door is 16x10.
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Quickly found out over the weekend that I am NOT done with the truck. It still has the miss. Code scanner is showing it acts up after the engine gets warm. Researching on some of the Powerstroke sites has me looking into the wiring harness. And it sounds like the AC issue is likely related. Maybe I can kill two birds with one stone on this one.
On deck, I found a new (used) fan for the tractor. New is no longer available through the dealer - which took them three weeks almost to tell me. Then, the jetski needs a new stator installed. I had it at the shop, but they quoted over $1000 to fix, so its back on my plate. Stator install requires engine removal evidently. And No 3 is a motor swap for my riding mower. The original decided to throw a rod through the block.
Maybe..... if I can get those things done, I can get back to working on the shop and get some lights up and outlets ran and actually work on my "fun" projects. Both of which have been sitting for far too long.
On deck, I found a new (used) fan for the tractor. New is no longer available through the dealer - which took them three weeks almost to tell me. Then, the jetski needs a new stator installed. I had it at the shop, but they quoted over $1000 to fix, so its back on my plate. Stator install requires engine removal evidently. And No 3 is a motor swap for my riding mower. The original decided to throw a rod through the block.
Maybe..... if I can get those things done, I can get back to working on the shop and get some lights up and outlets ran and actually work on my "fun" projects. Both of which have been sitting for far too long.
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Thanks! And the height at the peak?
(I'm at planning stages and want to match the 4/12 pitch of the house, but want a 10' high door, and limited to 15' high building)
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With a 12ft wall height, 15ft in to the peak with the 4/12 pitch should put the peak of the roof at 17 ft. I have not measured it.
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I made progress on 3 projects last night! More than I expected too on some of them.
First the garage - I took a roll of romex started to plan out how / where to run for outlets. Then I leaned the roll of romex against the wall and I got distracted looking at something else when the phone rang.....
I brought the jetski into the shop. I could not see why the motor had to come completely out. I removed the air box and could easily reach all of the bolts. I did have to put a strap around the motor and lift slightly on the front because the front two engine mounts are part of the cover. Other than that, it came right out in less than an hour. Parts are on order so hopefully it goes back just as smooth.
I was ready to call it a night in the shop because I had some work to do on the computer but while I was in the house something kept bugging me about the truck. I had t ogo take a look so I crawled back on top of the engine to take a good look at the wiring harness again. I couldn't find any problem spots, so I took my phone and used it to get a good look on the injectors themselves. Bingo! Cyl #8 injector had a bent pin. That is the cylinder throwing the codes on my scanner. I think that even after "reinstalling" the wiring plug that it was not making any contact. Hopefully I can put it all back together tonight and this problem be fixed.
Here is the connector with the bent pin.
First the garage - I took a roll of romex started to plan out how / where to run for outlets. Then I leaned the roll of romex against the wall and I got distracted looking at something else when the phone rang.....
I brought the jetski into the shop. I could not see why the motor had to come completely out. I removed the air box and could easily reach all of the bolts. I did have to put a strap around the motor and lift slightly on the front because the front two engine mounts are part of the cover. Other than that, it came right out in less than an hour. Parts are on order so hopefully it goes back just as smooth.
I was ready to call it a night in the shop because I had some work to do on the computer but while I was in the house something kept bugging me about the truck. I had t ogo take a look so I crawled back on top of the engine to take a good look at the wiring harness again. I couldn't find any problem spots, so I took my phone and used it to get a good look on the injectors themselves. Bingo! Cyl #8 injector had a bent pin. That is the cylinder throwing the codes on my scanner. I think that even after "reinstalling" the wiring plug that it was not making any contact. Hopefully I can put it all back together tonight and this problem be fixed.
Here is the connector with the bent pin.
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Summer has kept me busy. To wrap up the post above -
Jetski stator replacement went as smoothly as I've ever had a project go. It is being ran hard every weekend now and hasn't had a hiccup.
I used the roll of romex to add outlets down one side and the rear wall of the shop. One outlet every other post at approximately 4ft height- so 10ft spaceing between outlets. I stopped there because the other wall is going to be work benches and I want to set the work bench height before adding the outlets in on that side. I bought a 12ft step ladder to reach the ceiling. I started adding outlets up there for the LED shop lights, but I haven't finished running the wire.
The truck is running good. All engine work is done, the AC is blowing cold, new stereo sounds good (needs a little tuning still). I did find out it has a leaking pinion seal on the rear axle I need to get replaced.
Current project is a engine swap on my riding mower. I had a very nice condition Husqvarna that the 20hp Kohler decided to grenade on last summer. Rest of the mower is in perfect condition. I've been looking ofr a replacement engine and all I had come up with was a 15hp out of a John Deere (also a kohler).The JD is trashed body wise the motor runs like a top. I have put off on doing the swap in hopes of finding a larger engine, because my neighbor gifted me usable but rough Murray. The Murray has done enough to get by this summer so far, but it is constantly getting worse - so now It needs more work than its worth. That put the priority back on getting the Husqvarna running. I swapped the motors, finished up last night and got the majority of the yard cut with no issues. I still need to get the plastics and hood back on now and then I can try to clear out these trashed parts mowers.
Jetski stator replacement went as smoothly as I've ever had a project go. It is being ran hard every weekend now and hasn't had a hiccup.
I used the roll of romex to add outlets down one side and the rear wall of the shop. One outlet every other post at approximately 4ft height- so 10ft spaceing between outlets. I stopped there because the other wall is going to be work benches and I want to set the work bench height before adding the outlets in on that side. I bought a 12ft step ladder to reach the ceiling. I started adding outlets up there for the LED shop lights, but I haven't finished running the wire.
The truck is running good. All engine work is done, the AC is blowing cold, new stereo sounds good (needs a little tuning still). I did find out it has a leaking pinion seal on the rear axle I need to get replaced.
Current project is a engine swap on my riding mower. I had a very nice condition Husqvarna that the 20hp Kohler decided to grenade on last summer. Rest of the mower is in perfect condition. I've been looking ofr a replacement engine and all I had come up with was a 15hp out of a John Deere (also a kohler).The JD is trashed body wise the motor runs like a top. I have put off on doing the swap in hopes of finding a larger engine, because my neighbor gifted me usable but rough Murray. The Murray has done enough to get by this summer so far, but it is constantly getting worse - so now It needs more work than its worth. That put the priority back on getting the Husqvarna running. I swapped the motors, finished up last night and got the majority of the yard cut with no issues. I still need to get the plastics and hood back on now and then I can try to clear out these trashed parts mowers.
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Nice shop. I'm also in North Alabama and looking to build a 32x32. Who was your builder for this?