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32 x 32 with loft

bobby1970

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I'm new to this forum. In the process of buying a rural property in Ontario, and planning to build a 32 x 32 shop as soon as possible after taking possession. I'm planning to add a 2 post hoist in the future, so interior height suggestions appreciated. I've heard 12' is ideal if possible. I would like to have a useful loft above, so my first concern is overall height. Has anyone built high enough to facilitate a hoist and also framed the roof in a way to allow some decent space to make an open loft space. If anyone has accomplished these two things, is love to see pictures for ideas, roof styles used, problems or challenges you faced? Also I'm hoping to get approval on an engineered slab with thicker edges. The ground has a slight slope, so this may be a challenge for a slab foundation as well. Thanks!
 
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14snow

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What part of Ontario? Some township bylaws are very different. Example, where the maximum building height is measured from etc. I know some people with 10'1" wall heights with lifts but yes, 12 seems to be more ideal. Since I have just been through the approval process in South Muskoka, my suggestion is study the bylaws for your area, and consult with the town to fully understand what you can or can not do. This may save you time and $. Although I don't have a lift planned, I was able to achieve everything I wanted out of my storage loft garage without any minor variances for height. My designer was able to design a building that met the requirements. My designer produced engineered stamped plans that included an engineered slab on grade with thickened edges. My advanced researched helped educate me before we got into building design. Good Luck!
 
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bobby1970

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What part of Ontario? Some township bylaws are very different. Example, where the maximum building height is measured from etc. I know some people with 10'1" wall heights with lifts but yes, 12 seems to be more ideal. Since I have just been through the approval process in South Muskoka, my suggestion is study the bylaws for your area, and consult with the town to fully understand what you can or can not do. This may save you time and $. Although I don't have a lift planned, I was able to achieve everything I wanted out of my storage loft garage without any minor variances for height. My designer was able to design a building that met the requirements. My designer produced engineered stamped plans that included an engineered slab on grade with thickened edges. My advanced researched helped educate me before we got into building design. Good Luck!
Thanks for the advise. What were the approx dimensions of your shop that was approved on slab with thickened edges?
 

14snow

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Thanks for the advise. What were the approx dimensions of your shop that was approved on slab with thickened edges?
32x36, 10’ 1” lower level ceiling height, 7’ upper storage loft walls and a 4/12 pitch roof off the top of my head. Yes this was all on an engineered, thickened edge slab.
 

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I think you should start with the local planning/building dept to see what the by-laws are. you may need to apply for some variances for size/heights etc.
and you will need an engineered drawing for a monolithic pad that size . but, it may be cheaper to build a traditional footing /foundation wall/slab when you factor in cost of drawing and the amount of concrete you'll need for a mono pour that size, especial if you have slope. that can eat up metres of concrete on the thickened edges
 
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ConCretin

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I don't know what engineering is required in your jurisdiction but construction of a mono-slab will be significantly less expensive than footing, wall and slab. Not only is there less concrete, there are fewer elements to form and place, less excavation and minimal backfill. Conditions have to be right though. You'll need a relatively flat site and the right native soil conditions.
 

larry_g

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You can look at my build, linked in my signature, to glean some ideas for a shop with an integrated loft.

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My Old Tools

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I did....30x40x12 with a 6/12 pitch. Lot slopes about 5 feet....
 

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billconner

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If I missed it I apology but is loft for storage like an attic or do you want near standing height to the eaves?

Also, trusses or rafters or not decided? Are attic trusses a possibility?
 

CraigStu

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Look at truss designs. There are many that provide extra ceiling height. There are also many that provide storage space w/ a standard ceiling height. You can mix different design trusses so your roof is the same for the entire shop but you have height over the lift and storage in the rest of the shop.
 
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