wrigh003
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Wow. I tend to buy high and sell low where project cars and whatnot are concerned. I definitely haven't MADE any money. 
3200 sq ft shop project
- Thread starter jtillery
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I probably made money on 90% of the projects, the remaining either were break even or a very slight loss. If I working on a project that I intend to keep, it is much less likely that I will come out ahead financially. The majority of the money was made on the 87-88 CBR600s, I had a nice little niche going. It was easy to pick them up for $500 or less and once they back in shape, they would easily sell for $2500. I rarely had over $750 in them, since I had already had a full supply of parts that I bought dirt cheap. I could completely tear them down, rebuild them and paint them in 1-2 weeks depending on how much spare time I had.
Update time. Surprisingly it is still taking longer than expected to drywall 
The new furnace/ductwork is in. Other than the gas line it is ready to go, we are going to get that in today then fire it up. The air conditioner will be installed next week. Here are some pictures:
Here is the mess of wires, it actually looks alot better in the pictures than in person. All the wiring for entertainment/security cameras comes in there.
Here is a picture of the main shop area workbench/equipment wall with the insulation almost finished:
Main workbench/equipment area:
The tire changer and balancer will be going here:
I am going to spend Saturday afternoon finishing up some electrical on the outside of the building, then Sunday will be another full day of drywall. I will post pictures of the progress Monday morning.
The new furnace/ductwork is in. Other than the gas line it is ready to go, we are going to get that in today then fire it up. The air conditioner will be installed next week. Here are some pictures:
Here is the mess of wires, it actually looks alot better in the pictures than in person. All the wiring for entertainment/security cameras comes in there.
Here is a picture of the main shop area workbench/equipment wall with the insulation almost finished:
Main workbench/equipment area:
The tire changer and balancer will be going here:
I am going to spend Saturday afternoon finishing up some electrical on the outside of the building, then Sunday will be another full day of drywall. I will post pictures of the progress Monday morning.
We are making progress on the drywall, but it is still going much slower than planned. I estimate that we are about 50% done. At least the drywall stacks seem to be getting smaller now.
Here are some new pictures:
Wall for workbench/tools in main work area:
Front work area looking in from main work area. This entire area is approximately 16' wide x 40' deep. The lounge area and bathroom are in the front of this section and they are 16' wide x 12' deep combined.
We also got the gas line run to the new furnace, so we fired it up for the first time. The Reznor was 300,000 BTU/hr and the new furnace is 180,000 BTU/hr. I was concerned that it would take too long for the new furnace to heat the space up, but it seems like it may actually heat it quicker than the Reznor since the air is distributed evenly throughout the building. We haven't run the new furnace very much since the building has been holding heat very well with the new insulation. At 2pm Friday the inside temp was 62 degrees and we set the furnace back to 40 degrees. At 8am Sunday morning it was still 61 degrees inside. High temps during the time were 50 degrees and it got below 30 at night. We get much harsher weather in here, but only dropping 1degree in 42 hours seems pretty good to me.
Here is a picture of the Reznor. It really opens up alot of ceilling space in the front work area now that the heater is down.
Here are some new pictures:
Wall for workbench/tools in main work area:
Front work area looking in from main work area. This entire area is approximately 16' wide x 40' deep. The lounge area and bathroom are in the front of this section and they are 16' wide x 12' deep combined.
We also got the gas line run to the new furnace, so we fired it up for the first time. The Reznor was 300,000 BTU/hr and the new furnace is 180,000 BTU/hr. I was concerned that it would take too long for the new furnace to heat the space up, but it seems like it may actually heat it quicker than the Reznor since the air is distributed evenly throughout the building. We haven't run the new furnace very much since the building has been holding heat very well with the new insulation. At 2pm Friday the inside temp was 62 degrees and we set the furnace back to 40 degrees. At 8am Sunday morning it was still 61 degrees inside. High temps during the time were 50 degrees and it got below 30 at night. We get much harsher weather in here, but only dropping 1degree in 42 hours seems pretty good to me.
Here is a picture of the Reznor. It really opens up alot of ceilling space in the front work area now that the heater is down.
Well it is time for an update. We got stalled out for a week since my friend that is helping me had their 2nd child last Wednesday. It was nice to get a little break from the project since we have been going non-stop for awhile now. In the last two days we got quite a bit of drywall up.
We decided to wait to finish the trailer storage area drywall until the main area is completely finished. I am now going to put a small paint booth in part of that area, and I don't want to get slowed down working on that. We have a few odd and ends pieces to put up on the ceiling, then it is finished. We also have about 50-60' of walls to hang and need to trim out around the windows and doors. My goal is to have the drywall hung and ready to be finished by the end of next week. The drywall stacks are finally almost gone. We have 1 16' left, but the everything else is 12'. I am sick and tired of the 16' and 14' pieces, they are too heavy in 5/8". If I ever did a project of this size again, I wouldn't use anything over 12'.
I have a couple days off work due to the holiday, so I am going to try to get everything cleaned up and move all our supplies to the trailer storage area. Here is all the stuff I need to move:
I had a change of plans with the workbenches. I decided to build the Great Wall of Craftsman
(4) Ball Bearing 5' Workbenches with galvanized tops and matching stools
(2) Quiet Glide 3 piece (base, upper, intermediate) 26" wide toolboxes
(1) Quiet Glide 2 piece (base and upper) 40" wide toolbox
They will be going on the long wall in the main workbench area. It will start with the tire changer and balancer, then (2) 5' workbenches, 26" wide toolbox, 40" wide toolbox, 26" wide toolbox (2) 5' workbenches, sandblast cabinet, shop press, air compressor, air dryer. The 37" LCD TV will hang above the 40" wide toolbox. It should look real nice, I am looking forward to getting it setup.
We decided to wait to finish the trailer storage area drywall until the main area is completely finished. I am now going to put a small paint booth in part of that area, and I don't want to get slowed down working on that. We have a few odd and ends pieces to put up on the ceiling, then it is finished. We also have about 50-60' of walls to hang and need to trim out around the windows and doors. My goal is to have the drywall hung and ready to be finished by the end of next week. The drywall stacks are finally almost gone. We have 1 16' left, but the everything else is 12'. I am sick and tired of the 16' and 14' pieces, they are too heavy in 5/8". If I ever did a project of this size again, I wouldn't use anything over 12'.
I have a couple days off work due to the holiday, so I am going to try to get everything cleaned up and move all our supplies to the trailer storage area. Here is all the stuff I need to move:
I had a change of plans with the workbenches. I decided to build the Great Wall of Craftsman
(4) Ball Bearing 5' Workbenches with galvanized tops and matching stools
(2) Quiet Glide 3 piece (base, upper, intermediate) 26" wide toolboxes
(1) Quiet Glide 2 piece (base and upper) 40" wide toolbox
They will be going on the long wall in the main workbench area. It will start with the tire changer and balancer, then (2) 5' workbenches, 26" wide toolbox, 40" wide toolbox, 26" wide toolbox (2) 5' workbenches, sandblast cabinet, shop press, air compressor, air dryer. The 37" LCD TV will hang above the 40" wide toolbox. It should look real nice, I am looking forward to getting it setup.
Bustedwheel
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I think the idea of a pit is awesome. A possible alternative for people without the height for a lift? I wonder what kind of permit issues there are, and maybe a way to cover when not being used so there are no face plants.
Also Nice choice on the tankless water heater. What an awesome solution for a shop, as they are not used as frequently as a house may be.
Also Nice choice on the tankless water heater. What an awesome solution for a shop, as they are not used as frequently as a house may be.
The pit was there when I bought the place. I doubt it was there when the building was built though. I am sure there are alot of code issues to work around, I only researched the electrical aspects of them. My pit does not have any ventilation in it. If you do not have ventilation within 18" of the lowest point in the building (gasoline vapors settle to the floor), then it is considered a Class I Div 2 hazardous location by NEC and any electrical under 18" must be explosion proof. Explosion proof fixtures and fittings are ridicilously expensive. I got around using explosion proof fixtures by not having any electrical below 18".
I am a dissapointed with the tankless hot water heater so far. There is 15' of piping between the water heater and the sink, and the water is still not warm/hot by the time you are done washing your hands. I think we must have it setup wrong, since I think it should heat up much quicker, it is a midsized hot water heater since I originally planned on having a shower. I do agree though, a tankless is the best option for a shop that isn't used daily. The hot water tank that was there when I bought the place was 30 years old and hadn't been used in at least 6 years, so we didn't have much of a choice but to replace it.
As usual, we hit more setbacks, I have been sick for 2 weeks or so. We have been making progress, but it has been going slower. We finally finished hanging the remaining drywall last Thursday. We are going to tie up all the little odds and ends today, then start taping tomorrow.
Here are some pics of the last areas we finished:
Here are some pics of the last areas we finished:
Rando
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Looking good, that is a great space
Thanks for the reminder, an update is long overdue. We have made significant progress, but there still is alot more work to go. The good thing is we got far enough along that I can move out of my rented shop by June 1st. We have been moving stuff this week so progress on the shop halted. I also just realized none of pictures were working in this thread, so I will have to figure that out.
Since the last update we finished the taping/mudding of the drywall, priming and 1st coat of paint on the walls and 2nd coat on the ceiling. We put the 26 8' T8 flourescent fixtures in the back section of the building. Wel also were able to put down the Racedeck REVolution. All of these things made a huge difference in the way it looks. It is obvious that is needs more work done in there, but at least now you can tell exactly what the finished product will look like.
We accidentally put more lights in the back than I intended, not really sure how it happened. I planned on having 1.3 watts per square foot, now we are pushing 1.5-1.6. I am actually very pleased with the lighting, it is very bright, but not obnoxious or distracting.
On the Racedeck REVolution I originally planned on doing the checkerpattern with 1 tile for each color, I thought it would look better with the irregular shape of the building in alot of areas. When I saw they were boxed in 2'x2' sections (4 tiles) I decided to do the 4 tile checker, I am glad we went that direction. It was much quicker to put down that way and doesn't make you dizzy
I plan on doing a more indepth post on the Racedeck, but I am real happy with it. We have already subjected it to quite a bit of traffic from my 2200 pound man lift, and 5000 pound loaded fork lift without any issues. Both pieces of equipment run on very small wheels.
Enough talking, here are some pictures (all of them are crappy cell phone pictures, I will post better ones as soon as I can):
Before pictures (since the others in the post aren't working). - Note these were taken after 1 week of cleanup and hauling out many loads of scrap and garbage.
Here are some pictures from today:
The trailer storage area is loaded with junk:
Since the last update we finished the taping/mudding of the drywall, priming and 1st coat of paint on the walls and 2nd coat on the ceiling. We put the 26 8' T8 flourescent fixtures in the back section of the building. Wel also were able to put down the Racedeck REVolution. All of these things made a huge difference in the way it looks. It is obvious that is needs more work done in there, but at least now you can tell exactly what the finished product will look like.
We accidentally put more lights in the back than I intended, not really sure how it happened. I planned on having 1.3 watts per square foot, now we are pushing 1.5-1.6. I am actually very pleased with the lighting, it is very bright, but not obnoxious or distracting.
On the Racedeck REVolution I originally planned on doing the checkerpattern with 1 tile for each color, I thought it would look better with the irregular shape of the building in alot of areas. When I saw they were boxed in 2'x2' sections (4 tiles) I decided to do the 4 tile checker, I am glad we went that direction. It was much quicker to put down that way and doesn't make you dizzy
I plan on doing a more indepth post on the Racedeck, but I am real happy with it. We have already subjected it to quite a bit of traffic from my 2200 pound man lift, and 5000 pound loaded fork lift without any issues. Both pieces of equipment run on very small wheels.
Enough talking, here are some pictures (all of them are crappy cell phone pictures, I will post better ones as soon as I can):
Before pictures (since the others in the post aren't working). - Note these were taken after 1 week of cleanup and hauling out many loads of scrap and garbage.
Here are some pictures from today:
The trailer storage area is loaded with junk:
filthymcnasty
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Bump. Any updates on this one?
Well once again an update is long overdue. Right after the last update, I decided to open up a motorcycle shop out of the location. It has been fun doing that, but it definitely took alot of time away from finishing up the building. On top of that, the tenant in the rental house on the property moved out so we needed to do a bunch of work to that to re-rent it.
We did make a fair amount of progress on the shop since the update. We finished all the glass block windows, painted the exterior of the building and sealcoated the driveways. On the interior we put a second coat of paint on all the walls/trim/ceiling. I also got my security system finished, security cameras/dvr installed, and the satellite TV working. Really the only work left in the main shop area is to install the speakers in the ceiling (holes are cut already) but I cannot figure out where we put the speakers...
The plan for the winter was to finish off the storage area of the shop which is about 15' wide x 50' deep. I am not sure how much of that will actually get done though since my offer was accepted on a 4500 sq ft building yesterday. I am going to shift alot of our effort over to that. I will put up another build thread for the 2nd building. The current shop is going to be dedicated for motorcycle work and the motorycle business. The second shop will be where I do any work on cars and also for storage.
Here are some current pictures, they aren't the best but will give you a good idea of the end result. Feel free to ask any questions, I learned alot from this site and going through the build.
We did make a fair amount of progress on the shop since the update. We finished all the glass block windows, painted the exterior of the building and sealcoated the driveways. On the interior we put a second coat of paint on all the walls/trim/ceiling. I also got my security system finished, security cameras/dvr installed, and the satellite TV working. Really the only work left in the main shop area is to install the speakers in the ceiling (holes are cut already) but I cannot figure out where we put the speakers...
The plan for the winter was to finish off the storage area of the shop which is about 15' wide x 50' deep. I am not sure how much of that will actually get done though since my offer was accepted on a 4500 sq ft building yesterday. I am going to shift alot of our effort over to that. I will put up another build thread for the 2nd building. The current shop is going to be dedicated for motorcycle work and the motorycle business. The second shop will be where I do any work on cars and also for storage.
Here are some current pictures, they aren't the best but will give you a good idea of the end result. Feel free to ask any questions, I learned alot from this site and going through the build.
Vernmotor
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So whats the deal with JRs 88 car in the shop ??
Someone else asked me the same thing in a flooring post, so I will just copy that answer:
My father bought the car earlier this year from a racing school in North Carolina. It is actually a DEI chassis, not Hendrick's. We were told by the race school that it was raced by Jr as the Bud #8 in 2007 at Martinsville. We haven't asked for the history of the chassis from DEI to verifiy it though. When Jr left DEI, they sold off several cars, most went to other race teams, and a couple went to the race school. The race school repainted it as the National Guard car. It is all Nascar spec and still legal to race in Nascar, except it has a 400hp crate engine instead of the Nascar engine. The race school decided not to add the Car of Tomorrow cars into their school until the economy picked up, so they sold it to us.
Vernmotor
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Well I had to ask..My wife is a big JR fan.seen it and she said How he get that !!! I want it !!! LOL
blackice
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is the neon a street stock, or bomber car?
jktruck150
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That place is amazing! I am glad at least one of us has been able to turn a hobby into a profitable pursuance. Congratulations and thanks for posting all the pictures!