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4.5 inch Angle grinders

Thumper68

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Video comparing 5 different 4.5 inch angle grinders, My likes and dislikes and what in my opinion makes a good angle grinder.

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Ayuh,.... Ya lost me at 'bout 1:30,.....

I use Only paddle switch grinders,......
My favorite is the older Dewalts,...
The newer ones have grown in various dimensions,...
 

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Definitely prefer paddle switch for constant use. In our shop we would buy grinders by the case and hope to get two to three months use. The most common reason a grinder died was tripping on the cord and pulling it off the bench and hitting the floor. This usually meant a broken gearbox, broken body or both. It was rare that we actually wore one out.

We bought everything trying to find the ultimate employee proof grinder. The absolute best was Hilti. Very durable but as work and income slowed down the budget for tools shrank also. My second choice was Mikita. Good bang for the buck.
 

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Thumper, thanks for making and sharing the video.
Lots of options out there for grinders.
I have used many.
My personal favorite is Metabo. They really shine for extended use/comfort.
 

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On the Hitachi, I'm pretty sure you can run it with the gear head mounted in any of the possible 90° steps to get the switch in the position you want, the first thing I did with mine was put a decent long cord on it.

I have more Makitas than anything else, best grinder for the price IMO
 
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On the Hitachi, I'm pretty sure you can run it with the gear head mounted in any of the possible 90° steps to get the switch in the position you want, the first thing I did with mine was put a decent long cord on it.

I have more Makitas than anything else, best grinder for the price IMO

I'll have to take a look at that, not really a big deal since I use it for the cup brush.

Like I said in the OP it is my opinion on what I like in a grinder, I just have never liked paddle switches, I like a on off switch so I am not forced to hold it in a certain way and the fact that I have had them start up while sitting on the bench.

For those of you who prefer the paddle what are your reasons? Not bashing I might be missing something.
 

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I got a Milwaukee 4.5 a year ago and used the piss out of it. One day I caught my foot in the cord and jerked it off the workbench onto the concrete floor, and that mis-aligned the pinion gear with the driven gear and it wouldn't work anymore. I shimmed it a little and got it working again--it's a little noisier, but still works. Also somebody stold the Milwaukee wrench so I'm putting on wheels with a pair of pliers. Other than it's still working. I have a new Bosch 4.5 that my brother gave me waiting for when the Milwaukee finally bites the dust.
 

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I'll have to take a look at that, not really a big deal since I use it for the cup brush.

Like I said in the OP it is my opinion on what I like in a grinder, I just have never liked paddle switches, I like a on off switch so I am not forced to hold it in a certain way and the fact that I have had them start up while sitting on the bench.

For those of you who prefer the paddle what are your reasons? Not bashing I might be missing something.

I prefer a paddle switch. 2 main reasons, one is for safety. If a disc catches and pulls the grinder away, it shuts off. Second is I pulse the power on and off for certain applications where I want a lower speed on the disc, and that is easier with the paddle. I have both, and much prefer the paddle. Very comfortable to use.

My main grinder is a Metabo 6". It has a soft start, overload protection, anti-vibe balancer, has a jammed disc clutch, and has something like 12.5 amps, so it hauls ***. Paddle switch all day. I use a grinder a LOT and this one has about 5 years of use on it, not always daily, but for sure every week. Some days I use it for hours on end, working on large weldments that require cuts, bevels and so on.

FWIW, I never really have problems keeping the power on when I hold the grinder funny. It doesn't take much to keep the paddle engaged. Once its running, you can manipulate it just fine.

These grinders, as well as every other paddle grinder I have ever used, has a small secondary paddle that you slide with your finger to allow the main paddle to engage. This keeps it from starting on its own. However, I was taught to lay my grinder down with the disc, and therefore paddle, up, as to keep the disc clean and straight. I have never had one turn on from setting it down.

For me, a 4.5" grinder is too underpowered. A 6" grinder will run a 4.5" disc way better. My 4.5" is a Hitachi Koki from the mid 90's, and it pretty much lives with a 5" flap disc on it for quick deburring. Not enough beans to do any real work, and too large for detail work. So, it sits most of the time.

To each their own.
 
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Learned about the Metal Max wheels from Lenox. Have to order me some

They're neat discs, but be warned, they are VERY loud. Much louder than a traditional abrasive disc.

ordered 2 of them, used one today to undercut metal door jambs in apt in prep for new LVT flooring. work great . use to using abrasive cut off wheels but the metal max is way better for this application IMO
thanks
 

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I've used just about every different brand of grinder as a pipe fitter/welder the only one I cannot stand is the new Milwaukees. Worst ergonomics of any grinder I've used paddle switch is a pain to use with welding gloves on specially out of position, and they don't last very long to boot but they are cheap so a lot of shops are going to them. Never had such a diffficult grinder to work with. Personal favorite is the rat tail style of grinder have a 6" desalt at home that will just about keep up with my 9" dewalt but the makitas are just as good and have a long history of being a great Grinder.
 

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Why would you buy a 4,5" instead of a 5"? Weight, size and cost difference is minimal, but the 5" discs are more readily available. I just got a bunch of 5" flap discs from a friend who bought the wrong ones...
 

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Why would you buy a 4,5" instead of a 5"? Weight, size and cost difference is minimal, but the 5" discs are more readily available. I just got a bunch of 5" flap discs from a friend who bought the wrong ones...

Might be different for you in Belgium, but in the US 4.5" is the most common size for accessories and every home improvement store will have that size for sure. I've only found 5" online.

But 5" grinders can still run the 4.5" accessories, so I'd agree with you. The 5" grinders tend to be just a bit nicer and stouter too. The extra 0.5" is helpful for cut of discs too. I own two 5" and two 4.5", and the 5" get more use.
 

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Learned about the Metal Max wheels from Lenox. Have to order me some

They're neat discs, but be warned, they are VERY loud. Much louder than a traditional abrasive disc.

ordered 2 of them, used one today to undercut metal door jambs in apt in prep for new LVT flooring. work great . use to using abrasive cut off wheels but the metal max is way better for this application IMO
thanks

Good to hear :rocker:

I was about to order like 150 discs when I heard about the Lenox disc. I asked about them and got a quick response as well someone started a thread and now this.

So I order them a few days back should be here today :D 3" and 5" off ebay...
Going to put them onto 2 pneumatic cut off tools. I think they will be a big time saver not a full on replacement for fiber discs but a tool for common tasks, that will hold up longer and be changed less frequently. While the electrics will run fiber discs and if the Lenox stuff goes well I'll buy more...
 

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Might be different for you in Belgium, but in the US 4.5" is the most common size for accessories and every home improvement store will have that size for sure. I've only found 5" online.

But 5" grinders can still run the 4.5" accessories, so I'd agree with you. The 5" grinders tend to be just a bit nicer and stouter too. The extra 0.5" is helpful for cut of discs too. I own two 5" and two 4.5", and the 5" get more use.

There definitely seems to be a lot of 5" accessories available at local retail here in the UK also, I have a couple 4 1/2 grinders but currently have 3 5", need another really.
I prefer the 5".
Makita has loads of different models and make a decent grinder for a good price.
Hitachi does a pretty cheap 4 1/2 thats ok
Metabo are nice but cost more for the same spec, Im not sure they are worth it over the Makita but are German made if COO matters.
 

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Well I'm a convert the Lenox blades are the cats meow. I Used the 5" to cut up some 1" steel square tubing. Their a bit louder but on a big air tool it's hard to notice, I wear hearing protection anyway so it's no big deal. The kicker is I would burnt up at least one fiber wheel today just cutting tack welds. Maybe half the job. I see these working out really well. Not a full on replacement but def a well made tool.

They'd be nice for one of those angle grinder chop saw thingys I've seen on you tube lately.
Just another shop project to add to the list...
 
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Makita all the way gotta have the paddle switch imo none better than Makita other than Hilti which I don't have but have the drill and impact driver along with a Makita set same with those.
 
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