40'ft intermodal container delivery access

[inphx]

I am getting a 40' container i own deliverd with goodies in it. I know i need a crane and have priced some options. Crane guy tells me if he drives down my concrete driveway its very likely he will crack it up.

I have an option of him and the tractor trailer comming down my back alley. If i remove 3 sections of block wall (one has a gate so its really two sections... I would have a 36' gap in the wall parallel to the alley....

For you truck drivers or math gurus... is that enough clearance?

Larger cranes to lift over wall wont have room to set pads in alley i think. Also they are more dough. Loaded container is about 9 tons.

Any option has the meter running of about $150 - 170 per hour which makes a $500 tab to take down and put up the wall a good option.


advice please

 

[Long haul]

Not sure how thick your driveway is but I park my loaded rig (40 ton) on a 5" thick pad with rebar in it. The alley looks doable but personally I would want to come in from the other direction an blind side it in there but thats my 2 cents.

 

[rslaback]

Can the truck park in the alley and have the crane pick the container up over the fence? The crane could sit parallel to the building and set the container right next to the crane? You would need to either take the fence out so the crane could get in or drive it up the driveway.

Second question, how often do you have to mow your lot?

 

[Matt M PA]

I too am wondering why a crane can't lift it up and over?

 

[galute]

Would it not be easier just to unload the container, set it then put the stuff back in?

 

[inphx]

Thanks for all the tips. With a larger crane it can lift over the wall... but the larger crane wont have room for the stabalizer pads in the alley. So still taking out the wall. The smaller crane has more options in providers and $100's less at end of day. Smaller crane is at limit to swivel (i think 30 degrees) if it has the full load. The container is full of random building supplies - lots of stainless steel and glass for a modern home build - so its heavy and no way to completely unload (no loading dock) even if i wanted to.

Clock is ticking, I think after breakfast cofee to start brush removal as i move towards comittment.

 

[rslaback]

I'm still confused. The crane has to pick it about 6 feet to clear the trailer. How tall is the fence?

 

[Tribalvision]

If it's not too heavy, have a wrecker company put it on a dolly and tow it to your place. back it in and the wrecker can remove the dolly and winch the trailer into the spot. If it's light enough, they can use a medium duty wrecker and that shouldnt hurt the driveway. they can go right thru the gate. It will be cheaper than paying the 4 hour minimum for the crane also

 

[Ryf]

a 40 ft trailer and day cab can back up your drive way day long, but cracked concrete sounds cheaper than a new wall, IMO. unless your a brick mason and the wall work would be free? I wouldn't destroy a wall to save a driveway most days, but check with them about a trailer like they use for shed delivery, but designed for intermodal! had to look for it but heres a video of how I would get it delivered.

 

[jeff000]

This would probably be the best bet.

Where are you putting the can? just anywhere?

Lots of seacan trailers can self side load and unload too.

 

[galute]

How about a few sheets of heavy plywood to mat the concrete drive with. You would be suprise how much load that will carry. Or you could rent mats made just for this purpose. They work great.

 

[Strouty]

Lots of seacan trailers can self side load and unload too.

If you are getting a delivery without a landol style trailer, you should look into it. Also unloading it would cut you weight in about half. I have a 10 ton boom truck and that would only be able to pick it up right in close to the truck, so you will need at least a 40 ton to get any maneuverability.

 

[jeff000]

If you are getting a delivery without a landol style trailer, you should look into it. Also unloading it would cut you weight in about half. I have a 10 ton boom truck and that would only be able to pick it up right in close to the truck, so you will need at least a 40 ton to get any maneuverability.

The landol would probably be the cheapest, but requires lots of room.

I found a video of what I was talking about with the side loading.

I see them a lot around here, we always use them to place the temp power distribution seacans because they land them so gently.

 

[brownbagg]

9 ton is nothing for concrete driveway, 50 tons is nothing, that would only apply if you have uncompacted soil under driveway. I just back through the gate and put it where every you want

 

[cyamaha2007]

I wouldnt be scarred to drive either rig on your driveway. just be careful on unsupported edges.

 

[DIC]

The 14' alley way is not wide enough to maneuver the truck to turn the trailer on to the property no matter how much wall you take down .The truck needs a lot of swing room turn the trailer in.

The picture you have would work if you could steer the axles on the trailer...


What if you parked the truck in the alley and have a large fork lift sitting in the gate and lift it off the trailer and up to clear the wall and back it in on to your property. You wouldn't have to take down any wall.....

 

[inphx]

Full continer is 9 tons. Spent the day clearing the lot. Truck/trailer to come throgh gate but crane to coem from alley is the plan.

 

[inphx]

The landol would probably be the cheapest, but requires lots of room.

I found a video of what I was talking about with the side loading.

I see them a lot around here, we always use them to place the temp power distribution seacans because they land them so gently.

Wow - that is SWEET! wish my delivery had that rig.

 

[inphx]

Done!

Hope to be refering to this thread months from now as i build my new pad!

Thanks!

 

[volvo]

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Man...How did you load that great panorama picture?