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jmiller165

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Starting my 40'x48' pole barn with perma columns. Post holes are drilled and posts are set. It will have one 18'x12' overhead door, six windows and one man door. I have a 20' section at one end with scissor trusses that will have a open loft. I will keep the pictures coming as we get further along. Planning on a 6" concrete floor, two post lift, radiant tube heat and some blown in foam insulation. I am open to any suggestions if you see something that could be done better/different that I have not thought of.

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Looking forward to following along as your build develops. Hadn't heard of perma columns before. I can see the advantage of using them. How deep are they buried? Also, that little guy looks like he's having a ball on the Bobcat! (The big guy too!)
 
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The perma columns are buried the same way as any post. We drilled down approximately 48", put an 8" thick precast concrete cookie in there, put the uplift anchors on the perma columns, set the post, put a sack of quikcrete in each hole and backfilled. They are pigs to handle. Took a bit more work than your standard post. But, with no wood in contact with the soil and the fact they were not much more than just a wood post, I decided they would be worth it. I guess time will tell. They were a much cheaper option than a footer with a poured wall. I had estimates for both. Since I decided to go with a pole barn I had the lumber company throw in enough 2x6's to essentially stud out the interior. The idea being easier to insulate and hang shelving.
 

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Were the Perma columns sourced from a local distributor, or shipped in from the manufacturer? I'm in south east Michigan, and have been debating on using these myself? But my local suppliers know nothing about these.
 
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The lumber company that put the materials together for me gets the posts and perma columns from Richland Laminated Columns in Greenwich, OH. They are a distributor for Perma Column I believe. The additional cost was a little over $50 per pole. I did not think that was too bad.
 

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Great build and size.
I recently priced a similar size building. The built price was way out of my range. Waiting on getting a quote for materials.
 
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Got all of the trusses up. Went with scissor trusses on the one end to put a loft in with plenty of headroom. Coming along nicely. The boy likes all the equipment.
 

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jmiller165

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The 6' overhang is attached, half of the windows are installed and all of the nailers are on and ready for metal. It is coming along slowly. Thinking about concrete, electric and insulation. I can probably do two of the three in the next few months.
 

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The truss company was behind four weeks. Was hoping to get it started in late October but that is how it goes. Weather has cooperated so far. I think two to three more weeks and the shell will be done. May go ahead with the concrete if we get a week that will be warmer than usual.
 
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Started putting the metal on a week ago. Should go quick now. The cupolas are getting put together, the overhead door should be on soon, and some other odds and ends to finish up. Got a quote to spray foam the whole thing. Not cheap but the way I think I am going to go. Concrete will wait until spring. For lights I think I am going with twelve 4 bulb T5's. I got some recessed can lights for the porch.
 

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The perma columns are buried the same way as any post. We drilled down approximately 48", put an 8" thick precast concrete cookie in there, put the uplift anchors on the perma columns, set the post, put a sack of quikcrete in each hole and backfilled. They are pigs to handle. Took a bit more work than your standard post. But, with no wood in contact with the soil and the fact they were not much more than just a wood post, I decided they would be worth it.
Perma
columns are the only way to go ! Was the cookie a code requirement ?

No water in the hole ? I hope the ground is plenty wet.
 
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