49x49 new attached garage - input requsted

[Keeks2915]

Getting to the final planning stages of an addition to a lake property I bought my parents. The house is across the street from my lake house that doesn't have room for a garage and I need my toys close.

So I am soliciting input / concerns with these preliminary drawings. I have listed some general notes in random order:

1) since this drawing I have added a man door to back yard and one into the house so my elderly parents can get into house when raining without going outside. And overall height inside has been increased for potential future loft.

2) sound insulated utility room for compressor and manifolds/ water heater for in floor heating.

3) proper power supply for compressors / welders etc.

4) hi mount outlets to display neons.

5) side lights around perimeter plus ample overhead lights to see properly.

6) had to attach to existing house to avoid several minor variances.

7) plumbed for air tools around perimeter.

8) proper footings for 2-4 post lifts.

9) floor drain on front left car space to serve as wash area.

10) having garage doors follow tracks along ceiling instead of typical installation.

11) contemplating race deck flooring as I love it at my place in Florida but not sure how it works with in floor heating up here in Ontario 30 yards from Lake Huron

Appreciate any thoughts

 

[Pwrgeek]

Nice. Also feel free to buy me a lake house anytime.


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[tfalk]

I would suggest 48x48 only to minimize the extra materials needed for that 1 foot in each direction...

 

[Keeks2915]

Pwrgeek...no problem, which lake?

 

[Keeks2915]

I would suggest 48x48 only to minimize the extra materials needed for that 1 foot in each direction...

Thx!

 

[Keeks2915]

I also have been very happy with my race deck in Florida but not sure what impact on effectiveness the in floor heat system would have if I go with race deck in this application.

 

[slidehammer]

Some thoughts:

That's a lot of columns breaking up the floorspace. It would be nice if you could increase the spans and/or relocate some columns to land right next to a lift post.

Skylights would really brighten the place up.

Wouldn't a man door (or even a garage door) to the backyard be useful to you? That's a long way around.

48' x 48' is simpler to frame and sheathe.

 

[Keeks2915]

Some thoughts:

That's a lot of columns breaking up the floorspace. It would be nice if you could increase the spans and/or relocate some columns to land right next to a lift post.

Skylights would really brighten the place up.

Wouldn't a man door (or even a garage door) to the backyard be useful to you? That's a long way around.

48' x 48' is simpler to frame and sheathe.

In the new drawings he is working on there is a man door into back years for sure.

I did ask about columns... But I am going to figure out how to,do that.

 

[Kevin54]

Not much input other than that's going to be a damn nice looking space for sure.

I would downsize to 48'x48' though like tfalk mentioned. The extra foot can add up in materials.

BTW.....you're a great son to be able to do that for your parents.....well and yourself.

 

[Keeks2915]

Not much input other than that's going to be a damn nice looking space for sure.

I would downsize to 48'x48' though like tfalk mentioned. The extra foot can add up in materials.

BTW.....you're a great son to be able to do that for your parents.....well and yourself.

Will do.... I have been fortunate to play pro hockey because of the sacrifices my parents made. It is the least I can do as I never would have made it without them. My dad fixed brakes on buses for 40 years after a brief stint in NASCAR... His team win rookie of the year in 1974 (won martinsville)

The dad you hear about that never missed a day and never complained....

 

[Keeks2915]

Some thoughts:

That's a lot of columns breaking up the floorspace. It would be nice if you could increase the spans and/or relocate some columns to land right next to a lift post.

Skylights would really brighten the place up.

Wouldn't a man door (or even a garage door) to the backyard be useful to you? That's a long way around.

48' x 48' is simpler to frame and sheathe.

I was able to confirm I can eliminate all the interior columns if we go to scissor trusses....!!! Sweet.

 

[pmiranda]

With that design, there aren't any straight walls 49' long so I wouldn't worry about the overall dimensions. Looks sweet!
With that floor drain on the left, think about how you'll partition the wash area off of the rest of the garage space. I plan on a heavy vinyl curtain that runs in a track suspended from the roof so that you don't accidentally spray the other cars. Also nice for containing the mess that sometimes happens when using an orbital polisher. The only thing I wonder is if it will get in the way of that side man door if it's large enough to accommodate a long truck.

 

[j p smith]

Will do.... I have been fortunate to play pro hockey because of the sacrifices my parents made. It is the least I can do as I never would have made it without them. My dad fixed brakes on buses for 40 years after a brief stint in NASCAR... His team win rookie of the year in 1974 (won martinsville)

The dad you hear about that never missed a day and never complained....

Awesome!

 

[rburke65]

Are you restricted on the lot size or codes? And at least update a general location in your profile. And yes, very nice of you.

 

[Keeks2915]

Are you restricted on the lot size or codes? And at least update a general location in your profile. And yes, very nice of you.

By attaching to existing structure and inconsideration lot size we can go up to 2,500 on this garage. So we are within building codes for height, percentage of lot covered, set back from septic bed and lot lines.

All within local codes, as designer built my other home and deals with permits everday in this area.

 

[kbs2244]

Check into having it attached.
That often calls for a home style foundation vs a slab.
(Maybe a non-problem in FL?)
A slab will be much cheaper.
Enough so that a 4 to8 foot walk "outside" will be worth it.
(Lattice panel can give it an attached look)

 

[Keeks2915]

Check into having it attached.
That often calls for a home style foundation vs a slab.
(Maybe a non-problem in FL?)
A slab will be much cheaper.
Enough so that a 4 to8 foot walk "outside" will be worth it.
(Lattice panel can give it an attached look)

It will be having a proper home style foundation built and footings under where lifts will be located

 

[Dustball]

I'd be a bit concerned about having the two roofs draining towards each other where the house and garage meet.

 

[Keeks2915]

I'd be a bit concerned about having the two roofs draining towards each other where the house and garage meet.

I will quiz the designer on that! Thx!

 

[Slednut]

Looks really nice, I second the idea of having a garage door to the back yard. I did it and use it all the time.

 

[Joemctag]

I don’t consider columns as something to necessarily be avoided. Depends on what you want.
It’s great you’re there for your parents and also that they let you. Mine didn’t want any real help until they couldn’t manage anymore.

 

[3onthetree]

Since this is preliminary, some planning things to think about:

- Where's the house? This screams expensive car storage, because the garage now dwarfs the house in front of it, and with easy looksies into garage. Designer can't think of any way to minimize the look of it's function to make it seem like a large house with normal garage?
- Security. House empty in ON while you and parents in FL? Windows - maybe only transoms up high, no overhead door windows/or opaque them.
- Where do parents park? How do they transverse through your cars/lifts/equipment to carry their groceries to the door into the house (you have the wash bay front left and lifts in back)? Maybe a 2 car visually/partial physically blocked from the remainder of the garage for when door is open.
- Snowblower/bicycles? How do they bring it out either the man door or overhead door?
- You either are removing existing garage or have a shed. Garden stuff, storage of outdoor **** taken care of somewhere else or needs to be in here?
- What is in the existing house where the door goes in? Laundry or mudroom? If not, should there be a space for that in back, even a 1/2 bath/washup station? Maybe the plumbing should not be all the way across the slab to the utility room and front left. Keep it close to house, and just keep the loud shop equipment far away. This is Ontario, not FL.
- Where is your workbench, equip and tool storage, doesn't look like a lot of clear space at the walls, so in the middle? Don't you have to drive thru to the lifts? Maybe designate 1 or 2 stalls and have a larger area for welding/work away from stalls for just storage/display?
- If there is no back door for the house now, the garage back door should be next to the house. I would also want a cross opening, like through the middle, to help rid exhaust when overhead doors are closed.
- the little sucker attachment to the house needs the roof figured out.

 

[pmiranda]

Another zombie thread

 

[3onthetree]

Another zombie thread

F@#$%K I saw April 5 and skipped over the year. Colossal waste of time, thanks for the heads up