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5wndwcpe

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Well, the weather's turned lousy, which can only mean one thing. Time to start the garage build. Thanks in great part to the many members on this board and their in-exhaustable knowledge and much to the dismay of those foolish enough to volunteer to help, I'm now more **** than ever with the details of this build. But I digress. Goodbye old friend, you've served me well.
 

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So what is the plan here? It sure looks like you could re-use part or all of at least the brick portion of the building? Is it a complete tear-down?
 

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Wow I thought the before pics were good, can't wait to see what's replacing it!
 

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Wow I thought the before pics were good, can't wait to see what's replacing it!

That was my thought also. I would have added on to that and made use of that space. Can't wait to see what's in store!!!
 
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It was kind of a shame to tear that one down, but I have 6 cars and they weren't all fittin' in there. I looked at adding on, but I wanted the building to be higher and wider. As a stand alone structure, I was limited in what I could do for height (zoning wise). Therefore, I elected to tie it to the house with a breezeway which complicated tying in to the existing structure. Altogether, it would be easier to knock the old own down and put up what I want (or at least as much as I could get away with).
 

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Here's a few more pic's of the demo and the beginning of the footer dig. We had to go down a little farther than originally planned in order to get to solid ground. When all is said and done, I'll have about 8-10" of gravel under the slab. I was thinking of buying a small dump truck just for this project. ;)
 

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Absolutely !
Old: 20x22.................................New: 28x58
Old: kerosene heat.....................New: Radiant heat
Old: 8' ceiling............................New: Cathedral / Loft

the list goes on...
 

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Wow, that hole looks deceivingly small to be 58' long.

What are the plans for the interior?
 
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The front half of the garage will have a cathedral ceiling to accomodate a lift, using scissor trusses. The rear half will be constructed with attic trusses giving me a 9' ceiling downstairs and a 12' wide loft upstairs for storage. I'm trying to incorporate every stinking little detail I've always wanted in a shop from the outset, but I know I'll miss something. That's where this board really shines. There are some very helpful people on here that have stellar ideas, big and small alike. :thumbup:
 
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Yeah, me too. If the GC would only call me back....I'm getting tired of pumping the water out of the footers everyday. :mad:
 
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The front half of the garage will have a cathedral ceiling to accomodate a lift, using scissor trusses. The rear half will be constructed with attic trusses giving me a 9' ceiling downstairs and a 12' wide loft upstairs for storage. I'm trying to incorporate every stinking little detail I've always wanted in a shop from the outset, but I know I'll miss something. That's where this board really shines. There are some very helpful people on here that have stellar ideas, big and small alike. :thumbup:

I was going to do the same thing until my then girlfriend (now wife) said to put the loft in the front...the garage door would make us loose that space anyway...and have it open in the back. I guess it depends on how you will have the roof designed. I had mine with the gable end at the front so it made more sense. If your gables are on the side you can always have the door ride up the roof-line and out of the way.

BTW nice looking footer hole you have there, weather doesn't seem to be cooperating huh? (I had similar issues when we received 11" of rain in a week)
 
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The block is scheduled to be delivered on Friday and the masons will be here on Saturday, just in time for the nor'easter. Below is pictured one of the garage inhabitants which was unable to secure indoor storage until the new shop is up.
 

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Below is pictured one of the garage inhabitants which was unable to secure indoor storage until the new shop is up.

I had one of those!! :thumbup: Gold Duster

Mine was a 76 model . Bought mine in FL in the summer back when I was in the Army, that winter going up to VT for Christmas I found out they had removed the heater core :mad:

Kind of wish I still had it, I think 76 was the last year for them.
 
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I had one of those!! :thumbup: Gold Duster

Mine was a 76 model . Bought mine in FL in the summer back when I was in the Army, that winter going up to VT for Christmas I found out they had removed the heater core :mad:

Kind of wish I still had it, I think 76 was the last year for them.

At least heater cores are fairly easy in those. DAMHIK.

Well, x-mas came early this year. Along with an ice storm came a load on concrete block this morning. The pictures don't show it that well, but it was miserable out there there today.
 

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Well, here's a few shots of the block work. It's stepped like it is because of the grade. Though it resembles a Lego kit with some of the pieces missing, it is actually done at this point.
 

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Of course, nothing goes as planned. I had the masons lay 12" block for the bottom few courses, transitioning to 8" blocks after that. This would give me a 4" ledge on the inside to support my floor all the way around the inside of the garage. I guess the laborers were feeling generous that day as they layed one course too many of the 12" block. If you look at the picture below you can see the level line tied to the stake on the left. That would be my finished floor height. Yes, 11" above the driveway. Just what I always wanted, a self ejecting garage.
 

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i would definitely have that redone. imagine having to push a car in and out that doesnt start. who wants to deal with a ramp.
 
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Well, it's been a while since any meaningful progress has been made, but we got somewhere this week. Here's a few shots of the framing going up. I stood in the middle of this monster and thought "Man, what the hell was I thinking?" I'm going to have to buy a verti-lift to finish the ceiling.
 

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Because I see alot of water runoff from up the hill, I had wanted an impervious waterproofing coating and I think I found it. It's called Tremproof 250 GC and let me tell 'ya, it's nasty stuff. When I finished the first coat, I had set the roller down on the scrap pile. It's hard to tell from the photo, but those two chunks of concrete block are hanging in mid air, stuck to the roller by about a one inch wide glop of this stuff.
 

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Progress looks great... Your shop is similar to mine....I heard the same thing about tearing my old shop down, but i am so glad i did.
 

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Awesome progress pics. The weather never cooperates on a build and when you stick frame it, you run into so much more time. Sounds very well planned out so you have everything covered.
 

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awesome build thusfar, great dimensions too! Great choice on your coating aswell, I highly doubt anything will get through that. Picture of the suspended block is quite funny. Keep em coming!
 
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Here's an update for y'all. The walls are framed and sheathed and the Tyvek is pretty much driving me nuts what with constant 20 mph winds this week. Oh well, at least there's something to attatch the Tyvek to.
 

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That water-proofer stuff looks fantastic. Think I could roll that onto my truck frame to protect it from the rust-bearin north? Herculiner is a bit expensive. Project looks great. Keep the pictures coming.
 
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That water-proofer stuff looks fantastic. Think I could roll that onto my truck frame to protect it from the rust-bearin north? Herculiner is a bit expensive. Project looks great. Keep the pictures coming.


This stuff isn't cheap either. $113.00 for a 5gal. bucket to be exact. It might work on a frame, but it is intended to be covered with some sort of protection when used as a foundation coating. UV exposure may be another concern as well. But as a waterproofing agent, it's one tough SOB.
 
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Got the rigid foam on the exterior this weekend despite the 20mph winds and 16* temps. Yes, it sucked. Crane and trusses will be here in the morning. :drool:
 

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Can't wait for pics of the crane setting the trusses. I'm sure you can't wait to get it dried in and the exterior finished so you can move to the inside where it should be warmer and no wind.
 
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I'm with you there cd. The boys really came through today. Sheathing and backfilling tommorow a.m. Woo Hoo ! :beer:
 

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looks awesome! it reminds me a lot of wife's parents house looking at yours from the back.. There house and garage is similar looking, but only a 2.5 car detached...
 
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We've got roof !
 

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