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PretendMechanic
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SK is indeed the polish option I was leaning towards.
Between the Wright and SK set, curious, why are you after the Snap-On set?
6 Point Combination Wrench Set Options?
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SK is indeed the polish option I was leaning towards.
Between the Wright and SK set, curious, why are you after the Snap-On set?
Proto's ASD is pretty tame compared to Snapon's FD+. No serrations. I'd be surprised if it marred a fastener any more than a regular wrench. After all, the wrench has to contact the fastener somewhere. Maybe buy a single wrench and give it a try on a few things.
As for the fella who said satin is harder to clean: I haven't found that to be the case really. A wipe with terry cloth seems to get in the crevices well enough. Where I DO notice a difference is holding the wrench when it gets oily, which for me is about every time I use it.
I really wish satin was more popular. Made a thread a month back trying to find satin stubbies that went up to 15/16. Pretty much nonexistant, and had to settle for Gearwrench.
As for the fella who said satin is harder to clean: I haven't found that to be the case really. A wipe with terry cloth seems to get in the crevices well enough. Where I DO notice a difference is holding the wrench when it gets oily, which for me is about every time I use it.
I really wish satin was more popular. Made a thread a month back trying to find satin stubbies that went up to 15/16. Pretty much nonexistant, and had to settle for Gearwrench.
The Wright Grips are a bit short even though they fit my hand well. The regular Snap-on length is comparable to SK long pattern which is what I would consider to be the perfect length for a wrench. Being that the SK set doesn't offer an anti slip design they do tend to not work as great on the open end with very rusty farm equipment while the Wright Grip ones do.
The Snap-on would be the perfect setup in a world where I could ignore the price point. With the price being a factor having both the SK and Wright Grips does work quite well.
Wamsutta
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Cornwell will have a similar feel to the Wright and they are made longer.
Snap-on combos are made for maneuverability more so than comfort.
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PretendMechanic
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Spent a crapload of cash on Proto 6 point combos and flare nut wrenches.
Very ****** dissapointed with quality, worst finish and quality control of any wrench I've ever purchased. Lots of defects, chipping chrome.
I've put "cheaper" taiwanese wrenches through hell for 10+ years and have never had a chrome chipping issue, these Protos are brand new...
These are the first expensive wrenches I've purchased.
Sending them all back, pictures to follow.
Still after a 6 point set, not paying a premium for NOS USA satin Craftsmans, I've given up on finding a satin set.
I might try the Taiwanese sets from ETC/Extreme Torque Corp on ebay. At least I think they are Taiwanese, waiting on response from seller.
Only found 2 threads on ETC/Extreme Torque Corp on here, nothing conclusive, anyone else have any input on them?
If that's no good looks like I'm stuck between SK and Snap-On. I've heard SK has issues with chipping chrome, any validity to this?
Are Gearwrench wrenches made in Taiwan or China?
I'm guessing the newer Craftsman stuff is Chinese?
Very ****** dissapointed with quality, worst finish and quality control of any wrench I've ever purchased. Lots of defects, chipping chrome.
I've put "cheaper" taiwanese wrenches through hell for 10+ years and have never had a chrome chipping issue, these Protos are brand new...
These are the first expensive wrenches I've purchased.
Sending them all back, pictures to follow.
Still after a 6 point set, not paying a premium for NOS USA satin Craftsmans, I've given up on finding a satin set.
I might try the Taiwanese sets from ETC/Extreme Torque Corp on ebay. At least I think they are Taiwanese, waiting on response from seller.
Only found 2 threads on ETC/Extreme Torque Corp on here, nothing conclusive, anyone else have any input on them?
If that's no good looks like I'm stuck between SK and Snap-On. I've heard SK has issues with chipping chrome, any validity to this?
Are Gearwrench wrenches made in Taiwan or China?
I'm guessing the newer Craftsman stuff is Chinese?
Handyandy23
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Those SK X-Frames look like pieces of art! Very beautiful wrenches.
Can I ask how long they are? Would they just classify as a "standard" length wrench?
Can I ask how long they are? Would they just classify as a "standard" length wrench?
uncwstudent
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That's strange. My protos are phenomenal with no chipping or quality control issues. My biggest gripe was the cheap roll up pouch that they came with. But I ordered them from Zoro. Did you order them from Amazon? They sometimes have a penchant for sending used and/or warehouse wrenches when you order new.
Also, I have SK standard combo wrenches and have had no problem with them. They are beefy, feel great in the hand, and have good customer service from what I gather.
Also, I have SK standard combo wrenches and have had no problem with them. They are beefy, feel great in the hand, and have good customer service from what I gather.
Spent a crapload of cash on Proto 6 point combos and flare nut wrenches.
Very ****** dissapointed with quality, worst finish and quality control of any wrench I've ever purchased. Lots of defects, chipping chrome.
I've put "cheaper" taiwanese wrenches through hell for 10+ years and have never had a chrome chipping issue, these Protos are brand new...
These are the first expensive wrenches I've purchased.
Sending them all back, pictures to follow.
Still after a 6 point set, not paying a premium for NOS USA satin Craftsmans, I've given up on finding a satin set.
I might try the Taiwanese sets from ETC/Extreme Torque Corp on ebay. At least I think they are Taiwanese, waiting on response from seller.
Only found 2 threads on ETC/Extreme Torque Corp on here, nothing conclusive, anyone else have any input on them?
If that's no good looks like I'm stuck between SK and Snap-On. I've heard SK has issues with chipping chrome, any validity to this?
Are Gearwrench wrenches made in Taiwan or China?
I'm guessing the newer Craftsman stuff is Chinese?
The xframe wrenches are a longer than the standard sk combos. I havent put one up next to my sk long combos to see if they are the same length for the given size.
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Their long pattern 12 point traditional combos are made in China, reviews say the 6s points appear to be as well.
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PretendMechanic
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All my Protos are in the mail. I was trying REAL hard to convince myself to keep the 6 points, I couldn't do it. I did order from Zoro.
It wasn't just the chipping chrome, the overall quality of the wrench seems rather poor and inconsistent. For example box end cut outs not centered correctly on all wrenches, open end tips ground thinner than rest of open end side, etc. Was just poor craftsmanship. At the end of the day, they didn't put a smile on my face. Will post pics when home. I will say though, the satin finish felt good in the hands...
Called Hanover Tool, the company that sold the now discontinued ETC wrenches on ebay which seem priced too good to be true. They are made in China. Funny how the ebay seller claimed they have no markings and are probably made in either Taiwan in China... Pretty sure the seller knew. Is there such thing as a good Chinese wrench?
How well does an SK wrench hold up to a hammer? I hear Wrights can handle it no problem, too bad they don't make a 6 point. I haven't bothered looking up the price of Snap-On yet, scared to look...
kb1982, those SKs look like they live an easy life, how much actual use have they got?
Those X-Frames look nice. Was considering just getting them for my 6 point set, but the ends looks quite a bit thicker than a regular wrench, and doubted the ratchet end could handle the abuse I would put them through.
It wasn't just the chipping chrome, the overall quality of the wrench seems rather poor and inconsistent. For example box end cut outs not centered correctly on all wrenches, open end tips ground thinner than rest of open end side, etc. Was just poor craftsmanship. At the end of the day, they didn't put a smile on my face. Will post pics when home. I will say though, the satin finish felt good in the hands...
Called Hanover Tool, the company that sold the now discontinued ETC wrenches on ebay which seem priced too good to be true. They are made in China. Funny how the ebay seller claimed they have no markings and are probably made in either Taiwan in China... Pretty sure the seller knew. Is there such thing as a good Chinese wrench?
How well does an SK wrench hold up to a hammer? I hear Wrights can handle it no problem, too bad they don't make a 6 point. I haven't bothered looking up the price of Snap-On yet, scared to look...
kb1982, those SKs look like they live an easy life, how much actual use have they got?
Those X-Frames look nice. Was considering just getting them for my 6 point set, but the ends looks quite a bit thicker than a regular wrench, and doubted the ratchet end could handle the abuse I would put them through.
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PretendMechanic
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As much as I hate to re-consider them again.
Are the Danaher Manufactured Craftsman USA VV craftsmans wrenches any good? Are they as good as Armstrong, or does Danaher cut corners when manufacturnig for Crafstman to reduce costs?
Are the Danaher Manufactured Craftsman USA VV craftsmans wrenches any good? Are they as good as Armstrong, or does Danaher cut corners when manufacturnig for Crafstman to reduce costs?
jsmeece
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I know that they are not made in the USA, but look at Carlyle 6 point wrenches at Napa. I think they are still on sale until the end of March.
https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/CHQCW613M
https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/CHQCW613M
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PretendMechanic
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Don't own any Carlyle but heard nothing but good things.
Are they made in Taiwan?
I'm sold if they are.
jsmeece
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I do have several Carlyle tools, most ratchets, all of my Carlyle stuff is made in Taiwan?
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PretendMechanic
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Just got off the phone with NAPA after getting a few runarounds.
Finally got to the bottom of it, that specific set is made in Taiwan.
Got to make a decision now before the sale lets out.
Additional 20% with AAA, someone want to PM me membership number? lol. Tried entering a CAA number, no dice.
Finally got to the bottom of it, that specific set is made in Taiwan.
Got to make a decision now before the sale lets out.
Additional 20% with AAA, someone want to PM me membership number? lol. Tried entering a CAA number, no dice.
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jsmeece
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Napa also have an 8 piece set 6 Point Carlyle set from 10 to 17 mm for $49.99.
https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/CHQCW608M
The set I listed earlier is 7 to 19 mm or 13 pieces for $99.99.
https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/CHQCW613M
Sell ends March 31.
My local Napa store sells individual 6 points wrenches separately, 18 and 19mm are $12.99 each, while 7 and 8mm are $6.59, and 9mm is $7.59.
There is also a 6mm 6 point that is $6.29, this wrench is not in either of the two sets listed but can be purchased separately. Other 6 points sizes available from Carlyle are 20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30, and 32mm.
I case you want to try them first, get the smaller set, then buy the others afterwords, singles are not currently on sale. But when you figure the cost of adding the missing pieces to the 8 piece set to get 13 pieces 7,8,9, 18, and 19mm is currently $46.75 plus tax. So, if you do not like the Carlyle wrenches, you are only out $50 versus $100. Another thing to remember, the smaller set has a wrench rack but the larger 13 piece set has a wrench roll.
For my needs, I would buy the 8 piece set and add the 18 and 19mm, I do not see much need, well for me, for a 7, 8 or 9 mm 6 point. Total cost 8 piece set $49.99, 18 and 19mm wrenches separate $25.98: total cost for a 10 piece set ranging from 10 to 19mm $75.97 plus tax from my local Napa.
https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/CHQCW608M
The set I listed earlier is 7 to 19 mm or 13 pieces for $99.99.
https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/CHQCW613M
Sell ends March 31.
My local Napa store sells individual 6 points wrenches separately, 18 and 19mm are $12.99 each, while 7 and 8mm are $6.59, and 9mm is $7.59.
There is also a 6mm 6 point that is $6.29, this wrench is not in either of the two sets listed but can be purchased separately. Other 6 points sizes available from Carlyle are 20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30, and 32mm.
I case you want to try them first, get the smaller set, then buy the others afterwords, singles are not currently on sale. But when you figure the cost of adding the missing pieces to the 8 piece set to get 13 pieces 7,8,9, 18, and 19mm is currently $46.75 plus tax. So, if you do not like the Carlyle wrenches, you are only out $50 versus $100. Another thing to remember, the smaller set has a wrench rack but the larger 13 piece set has a wrench roll.
For my needs, I would buy the 8 piece set and add the 18 and 19mm, I do not see much need, well for me, for a 7, 8 or 9 mm 6 point. Total cost 8 piece set $49.99, 18 and 19mm wrenches separate $25.98: total cost for a 10 piece set ranging from 10 to 19mm $75.97 plus tax from my local Napa.
jsmeece
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I have two 6 point wrench sets one Craftsman, china made, and a mixed set of Armstrong and KD from 6 to 19mm and 24mm (mostly polished, the 8mm is satin though), missing 9 and 15mm, currently still looking for them. Most of them I bought off Ebay or from Cripe on-line. Total cost for this Armstrong/KD set was about $75 dollars not including various shipping charges, but took two years to complete and still missing the 9 and 15mm. You could go this route, but it will take some searching and likely more money than the $100 Carlyle set.
Carlyle is good quality wrenches, but I REALLY like Armstrong for some reason. So, I will pay a like extra for them, but I know there is NO WARRANTY with Armstrong/KD, with Carlyle there is a very good warranty at any NAPA store nationwide, walk in walk out, hard to beat that in this day and age. But I have my preferences. If I had an extra $50 before the end of the month I would buy the 8 piece Carlyle set.
Good luck with your decision.
Carlyle is good quality wrenches, but I REALLY like Armstrong for some reason. So, I will pay a like extra for them, but I know there is NO WARRANTY with Armstrong/KD, with Carlyle there is a very good warranty at any NAPA store nationwide, walk in walk out, hard to beat that in this day and age. But I have my preferences. If I had an extra $50 before the end of the month I would buy the 8 piece Carlyle set.
Good luck with your decision.
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PretendMechanic
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I like wrench rolls, going to go with the 7-19mm set and add the 6mm so it's complete to my liking. Didn't know they also made the 6mm, was bothering me as I like my sets to go 6-19mm, thanks for letting me know.
Will probably also pick up the SAE set.
Just trying to figure out if the current promotional AAA discount can be stacked with the Carlyle sale before I try to find someone to let me use their number.
jsmeece, if you have a AAA membership can you check if the cart allows the 20% AAA discount to stack on top of the sale price?
I normally would have the patience to collect an Armstrong set, but I've been needing a 6 point set for a very long time now, don't want to put it off any longer. Appreciate there's someone else out there that understands.
Will probably also pick up the SAE set.
Just trying to figure out if the current promotional AAA discount can be stacked with the Carlyle sale before I try to find someone to let me use their number.
jsmeece, if you have a AAA membership can you check if the cart allows the 20% AAA discount to stack on top of the sale price?
I normally would have the patience to collect an Armstrong set, but I've been needing a 6 point set for a very long time now, don't want to put it off any longer. Appreciate there's someone else out there that understands.
nbpt100
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I can not speak for the Web site sales but in my experience, with in store sales the AAA discount has not applied to sale items and many consumable items like oil and lubricants. But don't let this discourage you from trying.
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My store wouldn’t let me stack the coupon on a sale item either. Had to order my last quarterly deal today...of course not at the DC.
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PretendMechanic
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Can you guys try it out for me? Just add to cart and put in your AAA number near the bottom of the cart page where it asks for it. No need to actually check out.
https://www.napaonline.com/en/cart
20% on $200+ is worth the effort for me to try to borrow an AAA number on my end if it works.
BarryWells
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ASD does NOT mar up finishes making it the ruler of anti slip for normal use.It's in no way the animal that the FDP or Wright but also doesn't slip.
My Wrights remain in the roll until I get seconds after an idiot has been working on something. Then I generally replace all the bolts anyway.
My FDP are the shorts SOEXM that I use in confined spaces where knuckles are more important than marring up a bolt.They certainly grab like the Wright but Wright doesn't make theirs in a short pattern. I also have FDP in 4 way for similar circumstances. Those damn hydraulic lines that don't cooperate with anything else
cherrybomb
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Check out the Blackhawk brand
Lisamelting
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Agreed on the Blackhawk. I've had a black oxide set for over 20 years.
kythri
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My GearWrench full polish ones haven't gotten a ton of use, but I've brought a couple out a handful of times, and they've performed admirably.
Onefastgsx
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I have been using the same set of USA Craftsman raised-panels for at least 15 years without issue. Cant comment on the quality of the newer chinese made wrenches, but if it's anything like their Chinese sockets I'd stay far away