60 gallon compressor
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Zeke
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What are the CFM's? You want the better of the 2 at 100 PSI. Your sanders will run at 90 PSI.
creativecars
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Quincy is a better known brand, but that single stage compressor is one of their lower levels. Between the two I would go for the HF, it is a better compressor. Is a HF close to you?? Be sure to get the extended warranty. You may look for a good used on CL, but around here most think they want new prices for used stuff. Good luck.
edsauto
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You really can not compare the two, one is a single stage and the other is a two stage.
Go with the two stage, more efficient and will run cooler. Also, water in the air will not be as bad with a two stage.
Dan....
Go with the two stage, more efficient and will run cooler. Also, water in the air will not be as bad with a two stage.
Dan....
Hornman
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Uh, Dan, each cubic foot of air has the same amount of water in it. The number of compression stages doesn't change that.
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I'm with Dan. I've always heard that two stage pumps run cooler therefore condensing LESS water in the air.
owenst7
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Compressors just compress the air around them. The compressed air has the same humidity as the outside environment...UNTIL...condensation forms from expansion/cooling (usually in the tank initially). That said, a compressor that exhausts hotter air from the pump, will be exhausting air closer to the outside humidity. Apples to apples, the compressor that runs cooler will produce air that will condensate more, and therefore the air coming out of the hose will be "drier".
CompressorPros.com
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If doing the same work, the larger compressor should run cooler. That is if it is big enough to do the job. Cooler air carries over less moisture, so more moisture should collect in your tank instead of being carried through your air lines.
Falcon67
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I use a 60 gallon Campbell that was $400. With big air tools like sanders, yes there are times you will have to let it recover. If you're not in business and it's a hobby, that should be plenty good because you can use the other $600 for parts, primer or paint. I've painted whole cars with less compressor than that - you just have to manage the water production.
I did a ton of research and even found the HF on CL for $450. I wanted the HF but another thing to consider is how loud can you handle, I believe the HF is over 110dB. The Quincy is nice but if $1500 is too much for the real deal and your just buying the aluminum one to save money, then get the HF with extended warranty and wear hearing protection.
Personally I did not need more than 12cfm and bought a Puma 3hp 60 gallon since HD price matched Northern for $529. Out the door price with shipping and tax was $634 and I like that it has a V-twin that runs really quiet. When at idle in a 20x20 garage, I can talk & hear and don't need ear plugs.
Personally I did not need more than 12cfm and bought a Puma 3hp 60 gallon since HD price matched Northern for $529. Out the door price with shipping and tax was $634 and I like that it has a V-twin that runs really quiet. When at idle in a 20x20 garage, I can talk & hear and don't need ear plugs.
xtremek
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I have a 5hp., 60gal., single stage IR and it doesn't cut it when I start doing fab/resto work. It won't begin to keep up with a DA, and don't even talk about a pressure blaster. That's a total waste of sand. Go with a 2stage pump, I really wish I had. 
04fivefour
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lynnbilodeau
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Well, I usually agree with Chris (Falcon67) but have to disagree on this. Go bigger if you can. I HATE sitting there WAITING on a compressor to catch up.
DA sanders take a lot of cfm. You didn't say anything about sandblasting parts, but that also takes huge cfm.
Anyway, I know you posted that "around here" they want new prices for used. If you are not in a huge hurry, keep looking. I found a Dayton 2 stage 5hp 80 gallon compressor for $275. It was cheap because of the 3 phase motor (most residences don't have 3 phase). I bought a brand new single phase motor for $300. Sold the 3 phase motor for $100. There are deals out there if you are patient.
Ironically, we are moving to a new property that has 3 phase.
As to this: "Central Pneumatic is 15.8 CFM @ 90 PSI, Quincy is 12.8 CFM @ 90 PSI, but witch compressor is a better compressor?" I am sure the consensus around here is that the Quincy is the better built unit. But as underpowered as it is for what you want, I don't believe you would be happy with it. What difference does it make if it is the better built machine if it doesn't fit your needs? My limited experience with Central Pneumatic is that it is 2nd rate at best. There is a reason they chose initials that are the same as the old Chicago Pneumatic.
DA sanders take a lot of cfm. You didn't say anything about sandblasting parts, but that also takes huge cfm.
Anyway, I know you posted that "around here" they want new prices for used. If you are not in a huge hurry, keep looking. I found a Dayton 2 stage 5hp 80 gallon compressor for $275. It was cheap because of the 3 phase motor (most residences don't have 3 phase). I bought a brand new single phase motor for $300. Sold the 3 phase motor for $100. There are deals out there if you are patient.
Ironically, we are moving to a new property that has 3 phase.
As to this: "Central Pneumatic is 15.8 CFM @ 90 PSI, Quincy is 12.8 CFM @ 90 PSI, but witch compressor is a better compressor?" I am sure the consensus around here is that the Quincy is the better built unit. But as underpowered as it is for what you want, I don't believe you would be happy with it. What difference does it make if it is the better built machine if it doesn't fit your needs? My limited experience with Central Pneumatic is that it is 2nd rate at best. There is a reason they chose initials that are the same as the old Chicago Pneumatic.
TAMPAGT07
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All I know, is I would never go cheap on a compressor again..
GarageWarrior
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DA and sand-blasting will need way more air. Last time I used a DA was at a 6-bay auto repair shop with a 400Gal industrial 3-phase compressor.
Renting a towable 90 CFM diesel compressor would not cost too much if you can get things lined up to do the job in a weekend
Falcon67
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Agree 100%, just thinking about the budget. Small shop on a budget usually has more time than $. But as anything, if you think you'll be doing more cars as life goes on then as Lynn says - get at least a 2 cylinder 5HP. I see the prices coming down on those but I read that quality has dropped along with the prices so shop carefully.
xtremek
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Mine is a 2 cylinder, but not a 2 stage. Make sure it's a 2 stage. That being said, my compressor is about 20years old. Still, I wish I had a 2 stage, even just for die grinders.
creativecars
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A two stage is simply a more efficient air pump than a single stage. More pressure and volume. The tank size is there to store the compressed air until needed. The hp of the motor is needed to spin the pump fast enough to build air pressure. For a person to work without making their small compressor work itself to death I would be looking for a 5 hp, two stage, 60 or 80 gallon tank. Most efficient and useable.
Did you run orbital sanders with the Puma, if you did did the compressor keep up. Would you recommend it for body work at home.
vonhef
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I would also go with the Quincy.
creativecars
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I would go with a Quincy, but not that one... for the price difference go 2 stage.
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200350475_200350475
I would not waste my time or money on a single stage.
Now, a single stage Quincy or two stage HF... the HF wins.
creativecars
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For the money I think this looks like a good deal.
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200455343_200455343
This is a lot of compressor for a pretty good price.
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200455343_200455343
This is a lot of compressor for a pretty good price.
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Nope, not there yet, waiting to buy tools when my wife to stops complaining about the compressor and that it weighs too much for me to return it.
If you're on a budget (and don't have a nag) get the HF, after all it's mostly parts from a Belaire made by the same company making Chicago Pneumatic. It's a beast for $799 and I wish that I bought it but wife would have shot me if I ran it a 110dB in my attached garage.
If you're going to be sanding then go as high a CFM as you can afford. DA's are huge consumers of air. (ex: my Sioux DA consumes 15 CFM).
If you're willing to go electric vs pneumatic for sanding then you can get away with a much smaller compressor, save power and have less noise.
If you're willing to go electric vs pneumatic for sanding then you can get away with a much smaller compressor, save power and have less noise.
Fordman7795
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Check zoro and wait for a 25% day